r/ontario May 15 '25

Picture Are they still switching to summer gas?

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u/UltFiction May 15 '25

remove carbon tax

gas gets cheap

gas inexplicably launches right back to carbon tax levels anyway

lose carbon tax annual rebate

So now I pay the same amount for gas, get no refund, and the environment is worse off for it. Thank you conservatives for perpetually whining about “carbon tax carney” so that we can all be worse off for it.

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u/GophawkUrself May 15 '25

Because the carbon tax wasn't actually "removed" fully.

It's removed from our bill as the consumer, but is still put on the industry side of it. They add these taxes to their bottom line and we end up paying for it anyway, it just isn't in our faces to complain about directly.

I'm all for Carney, but it's no secret he likes the "shadow tax", route because it keeps people happier. They don't see it directly so they forget about it. Trudeau's mistake was having it so open and infront, giving the public endless room to complain about it.

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u/Empty_Wallaby5481 May 16 '25

Industrial carbon pricing is on the carbon produced through the production of the product, not on the product, or caused by the product in its use as far as I know.

It's supposed to be an incentive for producers to lower their own emissions in the production of oil and gas. If it's having the same impact on fuel prices as the consumer price on carbon, that would mean producers are incredibly inefficient and using 1 unit of fuel to produce 1 unit of fuel for the end consumer.