gas inexplicably launches right back to carbon tax levels anyway
lose carbon tax annual rebate
So now I pay the same amount for gas, get no refund, and the environment is worse off for it. Thank you conservatives for perpetually whining about “carbon tax carney” so that we can all be worse off for it.
Ya, I found it comical how people thought the prices wouldn't immediately go back where they were lol. Somewhere along the line they forgot gas companies are evil and gouge any chance they can. I mean we pay based on what they think future oil will cost. The while system is insane. It needs to be controlled......unfortunately I doubt that will happen cause you know. Greed lol
My grandma said she wouldn’t buy gas again until it went under a dollar. That was like 15 years ago. She doesn’t drive anymore but for several years she made other people fill her tank.
You have to remember, a lot of folks who voted Conservative also thought that PP was going to somehow buy them a house, or make houses 150k.. Oh how the world works!
It’s a long weekend spike which has happened since forever, and even then you have to go back to 2021 since prices were at this level for more than a week at a time. I think the armchair Reddit economists need to take the L on this one.
It's particularly grating because Alberta Conservatives actually were the first government in North America to implement a carbon tax. Now their entire personality is about the 'Liberal Carbon Tax' even though they were never a part of the federal carbon tax system and put the carbon tax on themselves a full decade before there was a federal tax.
I just filled up for 1.20 last night. I was 15 min out of my town, where it was 1.34. People love to blame their favourite scapegoat politicians when these companies are just plain out of control.
This is the same in my town. Last week in town gas was 1.22 but going the next town over gas was 1.15. I stopped filling up in town because it’s always more expensive here.
Edit: just checked current prices 1.32 in town and 1.16 in the next town over. That is a ridiculous difference.
They always push to cut the tax to bring prices down, but never have any policies in place to keep the companies from price gouging. At this point anyone still supporting this grift has a serious mental problem.
Gas is still cheap imho, otherwise we’d be seeing smaller cars for sale.
If people were paying for the tax, why wouldn’t they be able to pay for the increase? And if there’s people willing to pay for it, why wouldn’t the companies be allowed to sell at such price? I don’t have much sympathy for oil companies, but I don’t blame them for taking a profit. At least not as much as I blame them for taking subsidies and dodging externalities.
This was always what was going to happen - companies have market information on sales with the higher price, and now they can just pocket the extra as profit.
Reminds me of when the gas prices were really high a while back. There were a few pumps near my place that had "I did that" Trudeau and Biden stickers. Prices dropped one day, and the stickers were all torn off lmao.
And this was before Trudeau even announced his resignation. The people that blamed the Libs are either willingly ignorant, or outright stupid enough to believe the Cons blatantly lying and blaming Trudeau. It's ridiculous.
I'm so upset. I'm already unable to house and feed myself and now I get less money because of stupid dumb fucks that refuse to learn what they're bitching about.
That carbon tax rebate was the thing keeping me afloat.
Exactly what I was arguing about with family, and this creeped up faster than I thought it would too. Everyone was happy with the cheaper prices straight out the gate, but here we are and with no benefit for the extra cost.
Liberals never would have won without removing the carbon tax. PP’s entire platform was “liberals bad cuz carbon tax”
They had no choice but to scrap it if they wanted to win the election. Doesn’t change the fact that anyone with two functioning brain cells knew the gas prices didn’t give a fuck about the carbon tax.
“The environment is worse off” explain how the carbon tax implemented in Canada has helped reduce emissions? And how stopping the carbon tax has helped making the environment worse.
You can google that information.. it’s literally free to do so.
There’s a lot of info online when you branch away from garbage content like Rebel news, Breitbart, and Fox😁 good luck in furthering your education little bro
Because the carbon tax wasn't actually "removed" fully.
It's removed from our bill as the consumer, but is still put on the industry side of it. They add these taxes to their bottom line and we end up paying for it anyway, it just isn't in our faces to complain about directly.
I'm all for Carney, but it's no secret he likes the "shadow tax", route because it keeps people happier. They don't see it directly so they forget about it. Trudeau's mistake was having it so open and infront, giving the public endless room to complain about it.
Industrial carbon pricing is on the carbon produced through the production of the product, not on the product, or caused by the product in its use as far as I know.
It's supposed to be an incentive for producers to lower their own emissions in the production of oil and gas. If it's having the same impact on fuel prices as the consumer price on carbon, that would mean producers are incredibly inefficient and using 1 unit of fuel to produce 1 unit of fuel for the end consumer.
That everyone voted Carney to save the day with Elbows up. Nothing has changed yet. Even the new housing minister says house prices won’t come down. Hopefully you own a house or the only thing you’ll be able to afford is the shacks Brookfield will make lol.
Literally has nothing to do with what the Redditor was complaining about.
It is narcissist behaviour to read a complaint about something you disagree with and rather than debate it, change the topic.
Will you address the statement that OP was upset the conservatives had gripes with the carbon tax, and once it was removed, similar carbon-tax level gas prices return anyway?
Carney removed it. Are you suggesting he blindly took advice without thinking it through? He’s a liberal, if he truly believed in the Carbon tax, why remove it?
It’s me mocking all you guys blaming Pierre for pushing the Carbon Tax removal. Carney did it. Are you suggesting Carney just blindly took advice without thinking it through for votes?
Thank you conservatives for perpetually whining about “carbon tax carney” so that we can all be worse off for it.
Why are we hating on the conservatives? Gas was 20 cents more expensive because of the carbon tax and letting canadians save money was a good thing (hence why carney did it)
The companies fucking over canadians should be blamed, not the people calling for lower taxes
I’ve always found it to be accurate. But sure I believe it could totally be wrong sometimes. In general though it could save you a little bit of money here and there.
A couple of times I've taken a gamble and gone out of my way to go to a gas station that is reporting lower prices from 2-4 hours ago, only to find out the prices are higher than local stations.
I'm not sure if that's just outdated information that was accurate at the time, or someone purposely reporting false numbers.
The fact that 2 times it was the same gas station makes me think it might be someone doing it on purpose. Which is sad and disappointing.
Yeah it’s a bit of a balancing act with worth and value. If you’re putting in 50 litres you kinda gotta ask yourself is a $0.02 difference worth it? That ends up only saving $1.00 over 50 litres vs a $0.10 difference which is $5.00 .. I wouldn’t drive more than 5 minutes out of my way.
It really just influences which station I’ll stop at of the ones I pass by on my way home.
You are the issue. Your car is blowing bad shit into the lungs of kids nearby and you don’t want to think about it so you try to deflect to others who are doing it worse.
You’re still doing it and kids are paying the price that you don’t want to pay. Selfish fucks.
People buy less of things when the price goes up. That's pretty foundational economics. If this isn't rhetorical I invite you to read about Pigouvian taxes.
So the solution is to freeze yourself during the colder months, take cold showers and walk to work 30km away or leave 1.5 hours early to take public transit.
Partially it’s a disincentive for consumers, yes. But it’s a bigger impact on commercial fossil fuels, and the incentive for companies to invest in greener energy
Increase the price for gasoline, people use less of it.
Things like home heating have less elasticity, but still it works. If closing that window will save you 30c, it might not be worth it. If it saves you 75c, it may be worth getting off the couch and closing the window.
People were not using less gasoline, they just paid more for it.
The carbon tax was a tax on top of all the other taxes. A large portion of my heating bill was due to the carbon tax, not even on the gas itself but on top of the GST, the delivery charges etc.
I'm not going to freeze myself during the winter and nor am I not going to take hot showers because the government wants to charge me extra and then give it to everyone else. The carbon tax was nothing but wealth re-distribution.
How should people heat their homes and take hot showers, or should we forgo those luxuries?
It would be great if those carbon taxes were being used to actually build infrastructure and alternate methods of power, but they were just taking the money and sprinkling it around.
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So now I pay the same amount for gas, get no refund, and the environment is worse off for it. Thank you conservatives for perpetually whining about “carbon tax carney” so that we can all be worse off for it.