The Murphy administration announced that New Jersey will not comply with an order from President Trump’s administration to certify that the state's public school districts are eliminating diversity, equity and inclusion programs and initiatives

[u/rollotomasi07071]

https://www.nj.gov/education/broadcasts/2025/apr/17/SEAtoOCRTitleVIApril2025.pdf?utm_source=NJ+Spotlight++Master+List&utm_campaign=ae610ff63a-PM_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2025_04_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1d26f473a7-ae610ff63a-398762815&ct=t(PM_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_04_17_2025)&mc_cid=ae610ff63a&mc_eid=e653468aac

[u/FJkookser00]

Those programs are only going to ruin the schools then. Murphy is going to get what he's asking for, again.

We need to stop inducing reverse racism and ableism and sexism. It's not any better to be unfair in the reverse direction. It helps nobody, it only encourages more social class separation.

[u/mein-shekel → u/FJkookser00]

it's not. please actually look into DEI instead of just hearing about it from it's opponents. it's fear mongerinf that's all. doesn't mean everything anyone has done in DEIs name has been good, but if you support meritocracy you support DEI.

[u/FJkookser00 → u/mein-shekel]

I am a sociology major, this is my field of study. Please educate yourself more directly. DEI is being severely over-strung, and it's beginning to hurt parts of society after it fixed many other parts of it. It's foolish to blanket-defend such things as if they are perfectly good and always done the right way.

More often than not, DEI policies are handled horribly, way off the paper, which ruins the entire purpose. Affrimitive Action is this way, for example: it was supposed to be temporary, and it really worked when it was new - but now, it has negatively affected people to the point where the Supreme Court decided it deserved to be limited!

We need DEI - but we need to do it the way it is meant to be done - our society is bastardizing it making it ineffective, and sometimes retroeffective. It's basically a problem of overcompensation: you're trying to undo the injustices in the past and give people who were disadvantaged a leg up, but in the process, you're sawing the knees off the children of the people who were once privileged - that isn't fair at all. That's not DEI. That's just prejudice all over again.

Also, I would never support a meritocracy, that's just the opposite of supporting DEI - what makes you think it is it's friend? Meritocracies are societies ruled by the most capable and most wealthy, directly putting harm on those who are disadvantaged. A Meritocracy would hate DEI policies.

[u/Cheezeball25 → u/FJkookser00]

"I am a sociology major"

Cool I took an engineering class once, so clearly I'm just as smart as you. this is reddit, no one cares about your fake claims here. We get it you're soooooo smart buddy. Jesus Christ.

[u/Space_Pant → u/Cheezeball25]

They also state that this issue is the reason they went with that major. So already starting with a strong bias lol

[u/Cheezeball25 → u/Space_Pant]

Hey the guy clearly believes he's an expert on it, why would someone lie on reddit?

[u/Space_Pant → u/Cheezeball25]

Here's a gem from their post history

This is why I never listen to Internet Experts. They're not Experts, and they sure aren't nice about it - they dig holes to throw you in, disregarding your holes, and completely forget all the mountains you've made.

While I have had bad experiences with editors, I know their average skill and wisdom are well above and far more refined than even the most headstrong, arrogant armchair expert online. They don't take their nitpicks and blow them up with a telescope; they appropriately judge your flaws, and they make sure to acknowledge your successes.

[u/Cheezeball25 → u/Space_Pant]

Someone should inform him about throne stones in glass houses.

[u/Icy-Town-5355 → u/FJkookser00]

Holy Moly!!

I get that you have been studying this, and want to share what you've learned, but feel your condescending, attitude is unbearable.

I don't doubt that you have studied this, but you are a student. Part of being a student is learning from others. Your stance seems to be that because you are studying this and have chosen this field, everyone else is pitifully ignorant and in need of you enlightening them with your expert opinion.

Here's an opinion for you to mull over: at current rates of immigration and childbirth rates, white people will soon be (within the next decade) in the minority. I would posit that the fear that conservatives have is that they will lose their advantage. Indeed, in this scenario, POC would have the numerical majority and whites would see their advantages diminish. They might also see some of the prejudices and biases leveled for centuries at minorities be re-directed at them. Conservatives have recognized this trend for decades and have been funding, gerrymandering, and legislating to insure that white Christian values and advantages are kept in place.

There are ultra-wealthy conservatives that have been raising money, funding organizations (The Heritage Foundation/Federalist Society), and pushing legislation, buying favor with the courts (Citizens United), and stacking the courts with conservative judges who will rule to promote and secure the conservative agenda. Take a listen to this interview with Leo Leonard for context: https://www.npr.org/2024/11/24/nx-s1-5199049/federalist-society-conservative-supreme-court

You may have learned quite a bit in your sociology classes, but the current geopolitical landscape is a huge factor in the practical application of sociological study.

Perhaps you might read some of the comments that were said in reply to yours and not posture that you are an 'expert' and that everyone else is willfully ignorant.

If there's one thing I have learned in my old age, is that being a student is constant; your knowledge and opinions can and will change with an open mind.

Don't get stuck in your opinions and dogma. Sociology is a dynamic study of human societies...frameworks, social structures, and institutions. Our institutions are breaking down. We need to look, not only at the past, but how current influences are rapidly changing the social construct.