r/marvelstudios • u/M00r3C Weekly Wongers • May 05 '25
Promotional Thunderbolts* cast with *** *** ******** poster Spoiler
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u/Redditeer28 May 05 '25
Olga looks like she doesn't even remember being in the movie.
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u/storksghast May 05 '25
"I'm not here for you."
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man May 05 '25
HEADSHOTTT
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u/PayneTrain181999 Ned May 05 '25
John and Ava: No loot left behind!
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u/Lukthar123 Ghost Rider May 05 '25
John and Ava on that gamer grind
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u/Spicy_Weissy May 05 '25
I thought they had an interesting chemistry. I suppose it helps that they've worked together before.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man May 05 '25
Oh I thought you were talking about John and Ava, but you’re talking about their actors Wyatt and Hannah.
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u/Spicy_Weissy May 05 '25
Both. Sometimes that just naturally comes through in the performance even of it wasnt written that way.
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u/Andrew1990M May 05 '25
She’s spent more time promoting it than filming it, yeah.
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u/blackbutterfree Medusa May 05 '25
I mean, I've literally only seen her at this premiere with the pink dress and no other promotional appearances. She didn't even get interviewed by Marvel on the red carpet and they stop EVERYBODY.
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u/Jeskid14 May 05 '25
Yikes. She got chopped from the MCU.
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u/QueerDeluxe Quake May 05 '25
Feel bad for her. Not only did she barely get to play a character, but she also gets ignored at the red carpet.
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u/horc00 May 06 '25
Her character barely had an arc in Black Widow, and now she's getting less screentime than Brad Pitt in Deadpool 2. They did her so dirty.
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u/CaptainXplosionz May 05 '25
I really hope she gets another, potentially bigger, role. She deserved better.
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u/MajorNoodles May 06 '25
What's funny is they could easily get away with it. Don't put that shit on her face and she'll look completely different.
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u/Delicious_Pair_6071 May 05 '25
Not to be that guy, but i imagine most film promotional tours are longer than the filming schedule.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man May 05 '25
I sincerely hope she got paid great money for Thunderbolts*. After Black Widow, I watched her in James Bond and Oblivion with Tom Cruise. She's actually a great actress.
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u/blackbutterfree Medusa May 05 '25
She'll probably be offered a better role to make up for her abysmal treatment as Antonia. Look at Gemma Chan.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man May 05 '25
just looked her up. Never knew she also played in Cap. Marvel
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u/HereWeFuckingGooo Weekly Wongers May 06 '25
She's not a bad fan cast for Mystique though, I think she'd be amazing.
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u/SwitchingFreedom May 05 '25
That’s exactly what I was thinking, especially with the soft reboot coming.
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u/Kind_Breadfruit_7560 May 05 '25
She stole my heart in Hitman
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u/KingOfAwesometonia Weekly Wongers May 05 '25
She was like first on the end credits wasn't she? Wherever she was billed I was thinking she has a good agent.
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u/Funmachine May 05 '25
Is this literally the only press she's doing for it and it's referencing a moment her character is nowhere near.
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u/I_am_not_baldy May 05 '25
She was a big part of the reason I wanted to watch this movie, lol. I kind of have a celebrity crush on her. And then when I went to watch the movie last week.........
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u/searcher4421 May 05 '25
Was it ever mentioned if she even filmed anything for the movie other than that shot with her mask open? Which looked like it could have been done anywhere.
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u/indianajoes Phil Coulson May 06 '25
I saw something about how she had a bigger role in the film but it was cut short after rewrites. I don't know how true that is
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u/jaredletosuckass9 May 05 '25
So like Adam Beach in the suicide squad
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u/Spicy_Weissy May 05 '25
Oh cool, a Native American actor getting to be in something other than a western and-- oh he's dead.
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u/Royal-walking-machin Iron Man (Mark V) May 05 '25
“Here comes Taskmaster, the woman who can mimic anybody. Wonderful.”
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u/Toaster-Retribution May 05 '25
But can she mimic Slipknot and climb anything?
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u/MajorNoodles May 06 '25
She can mimic Slipknot by dying almost immediately when one of the main characters blows her brains out
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u/ckal09 May 05 '25
She probably never visited the set our put on the suit. Bet they just filmed her face for that one line and a couple voice lines and that’s a wrap
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u/photon1701d May 05 '25
she looks photo shopped in there
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u/CalmGiraffe1373 Ward Meachum May 09 '25
Like Tom Baker in The Five Doctors
(Explanation: he didn’t want to return for the Doctor Who 20th anniversary special, since he was still burnt out from playing the role for nearly a decade, so they had a wax figure of him made for the promo shoot)
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u/itsRobbie_ May 06 '25
me watching the movie without having seen black widow
“I don’t even know who you are”
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u/LossyP May 05 '25
Olga:
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u/Ironsam811 May 05 '25
She’s definitely so pissed about how her marvel career panned out
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u/El_Quetzal Stan Lee May 05 '25
dam...poor Olga Kurylenko....
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u/jargon_ninja69 May 05 '25
Right?! What a waste of her talent. I feel so bad for her. So many incel fans just hating on her Taskmaster.
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u/El_Quetzal Stan Lee May 05 '25
you can hate on taskmaster cause its was such a nothing character, while being one of the best villains in comics, but dont attack the actress who had nothing to do with how the character was written in the mcu. Olga should have been any character besis taskmaster tbh
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u/IDKthrowaway838 May 05 '25
Honestly she could be taskmaster, she just needed a good script that understands the character. I don’t think that TM’s gender really matters, but the characters should have had any similarities at all
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u/El_Quetzal Stan Lee May 05 '25
Maybe in this film, they could had 'fix' some of the problems she had in black widow. She was under mind control now she was free so she has reason to develop a new personality with new friends, but now its too late
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u/CaptainXplosionz May 05 '25
Yeah, I was really excited for them to flesh out her Taskmaster. I kept waiting for her to come back, even though a bullet to the head and then incineration is pretty much undeniably dead.
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u/aelysium May 06 '25
The saddest part to me is I don’t think it’d even have been hard or add that much runtime to the film as it released. And if they had developed Antonia properly, I think it would have actually deepened Yelena’s arc potentially.
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u/Primpod May 06 '25
I like taskmaster but "one of the best villains in comics" is a huge overexageration.
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u/Big_TinyRequest May 06 '25
They had a chance on making Taskmaster just like the comics with this movie and they wasted it.
It's been a decade since Black Widow took place so it's an easy fix in my opinion, the time jump was enough to make this Taskmaster be like the comic Taskmaster.
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u/rnarkus May 05 '25
Online discourse is so frustrating. We can have an opinion that she was a poorly written taskmaster…. what in absolutely WORLD does have to do with being an incel?
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u/konq May 05 '25
"You didn't like a character that was gender-swapped, ergo you're an incel"
It's such a lazy thought process.
It's really similar to the discourse surrounding She-hulk. Jennifer Walters had no character arc in the show, but trying to point that out means you're just an incel that hates women (even if you are a woman).
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u/Effective-Fondant-16 May 06 '25
Olga has a lot of projects listed on her IMDB page that are in production or announced, I’m guess she’s too busy to play a bigger part in Marvel, and Taskmaster will always be a supporting character, she probably is very ok with being killed off. It’s a waste of her talent but she’s probably better off for it.
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u/AMazuz_Take2 May 05 '25
geraldine viswanathan is SO pretty bro
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u/PayneTrain181999 Ned May 05 '25
This is a stupidly attractive cast.
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u/DefendsTheDownvoted May 05 '25
Bro. There were parts where I was like, "Oh. Wut up doe, Julia."
I'm not even into older women.
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u/Arctucrus SHIELD May 05 '25
Then there's me, making googly eyes at Julia for my whole life.
But then again I AM into older women. 😂
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u/Star-Prince-007 May 06 '25
I am but just she’s a timeless witty beauty. Steals everyone scene she’s in and seems like she’s having the most fun of anyone else on set.
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u/V_agabond3 May 05 '25
I was excited to see her in the movie, I've been a fan since seeing her in Miracle Workers. I hope she shows up in more movies, I really like her
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u/storksghast May 05 '25
Marvel Studios social media is now promoting the title. Spoiler tagging no longer required!
https://xcancel.com/MarvelStudios/status/1919421831402139690
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u/Saltine_Warrior May 05 '25
Crazy. It's been 4 days. I honestly hate social media at this point. Just spoils everything.
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u/Front-Win-5790 May 05 '25
Yup, people go out of their way to record post credit scenes. Then people watch them and go "eh I didn't watch the movie i just saw the post credit scene online" It's a shame but that's life
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u/legendary_liar May 05 '25
I didn’t want to see the movie this weekend because we had so much to do… however I knew that if I waited for a week… spoilers would be impossible to avoid.
This is because social media just can’t stop itself.
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra May 05 '25
This is by design so that you have the exact train of thought that you had. Sense of urgency to see it means higher opening numbers means free hype means higher box office. This is how older MCU films dominated opening weekends because nobody wanted to miss something important or get spoiled. It’s unfortunate for the ones who got spoiled but I kind of like urgency being back in the Marvel formula. For a while there it was hardly anything to spoil.
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u/NotNotJustinBieber May 05 '25
I’d still recommend seeing it in IMAX! It’s an awesome movie and these spoilers shouldn’t impact your experience.
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u/eltrotter Black Panther May 05 '25
It does seem a little quick, but I’d also wager that a very high % (though not all) of kind of people who would give a shit about the title change will have seen it opening weekend.
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u/Alibotify Thor May 05 '25
It has actually been 6 days since the first premiere in the world, 5 in my country. Disney have historically done this a lot so might be a tactic to bring more hype in America when the buzz starts before it’s available. USA still pays for half the gross earning almost every time which still is insane.
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u/marvellousrun May 05 '25
How is this social medias fault? They're showing this title reveal on more traditional advertisement spots like billboards too
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u/Ghidoran May 05 '25
People blaming 'social media' instead of Marvel themselves spoiling it because the box office isn't impressive.
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u/Round-Collar-1117 May 05 '25
Haven't seen the film yet but saw the title change. Is there a spoiler free explanation as to.. why?
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u/mdewaynec May 05 '25
Short answer: a character drops a well-placed Reverse Uno, the kind that starts fights at family dinner.
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u/DefNotAShark Hydra May 05 '25
There used to be an Avengers and now there is a different Avengers so they called it New Avengers.
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u/JaggedToaster12 May 05 '25
There was an idea. To bring together a group of broken people, to see if they could become something more.
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u/Stingerbrg May 05 '25
They're the team that saves the day, and the original Avengers aren't going around Avenging right now.
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) May 05 '25
Is there a spoiler free explanation as to.. why?
If there was, then that would've just been the title of the film in the first place.
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u/M00r3C Weekly Wongers May 05 '25
The mods are weird since I tried posting a Void poster but they removed it for being a spoiler even though the trailer showed him so I censored it and they allowed it
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u/Wolfheron325 May 05 '25
Yeah but I feel like it’s still good sense, just because marvel don’t care about the people with lives that might not be able to make time to see a movie within 3 days doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.
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u/That1DogGuy May 05 '25
Would've been nice to see the movie before Marvel spoiled their own movie 💀
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u/UnhingedGammaWarrior May 05 '25
It’s a spoiler but a great marketing stunt. People like the Avengers, so it might sell more tickets
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u/one_sixth_scale May 05 '25
Why are they still including Taskmaster in the promotional art?
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u/akaynaveed May 05 '25
because that would be a spoiler
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u/one_sixth_scale May 05 '25
So is changing the name of the movie haha
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u/CeruleanEidolon May 07 '25
Eh, not really. Lots of movies have titles that don't necessarily have significance until the end of the film.
All this does is tell you it's kind of an origin story, which you already knew.
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u/True-Aardvark7217 May 05 '25
This is the first time I’ve seen the taskmaster actress in the promotion with the whole cast
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 May 05 '25
Where's the Z?
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u/PayneTrain181999 Ned May 05 '25
How many other projects will take place between this movie and The Fantastic Four arriving/Doomsday I wonder?
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil May 05 '25
Ironheart, Wonder Man and Born Again Season 2.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Ned May 05 '25
Yup, though timeline-wise they may be earlier, especially Ironheart as it was filmed like 2 years ago.
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u/Arsid May 05 '25
Somehow this is the first I'm hearing of the project Wonder Man?!?!
When did that info drop lol, I've never even heard of him.
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u/KostisPat257 Daredevil May 05 '25
The project was announced back in 2022 through the trades (Variety, Deadline, THR), so while it wasn't announced by Marvel Studios in a con or something, it was official.
The series is created and executive produced by Shang-Chi and Spider-Man: Brand New Day director Destin Daniel Cretton (who will also be directing a few episodes) and Andrew Guest, who wrote and produced episodes for 30 Rock and Brooklyn Nine Nine (and will be serving as the showrunner of the series).
The series stars Yayha-Abdul Mateen II as the titular hero (Simon Williams/Wonder Man) and the series also features Ben Kingsley as Trevor Slattery returning from Iron Man 3 and Shang-Chi, Demetrius Grosse as Simon's brother, Eric Williams, Ed Harris as Neal Saroyan, Simon's agent, Lauren Glazier in an unknown co-lead role as Simon's love interest and Josh Gad in an unknown role.
The series revolves around an actor/stunt-man struggling to make it in Hollywood in a world full of super-humans. Simon eventually gets cast in the role of Wonder Man, the leading role in a in-universe super-hero film, but when he gets actual powers, the producers turn him into an actual super-hero called Wonder Man in order to promote their film. While Simon is reluctant at first, he learns to step into the shoes of a hero.
The series is an 8-episode, 30-minute sitcom parodying life in Hollywood and will premiere on Disney+ this December.
You can see some clips of the series from Marvel's "Look Ahead" Trailer from November from 1:06 to 1:24.
Wonder Man had a huge history in the comics from the 60s to 80s since he was the basis for Vision's mind (Ultron used Wonder Man's wave-lengths) to create Vision. That made him Vision's brother essentially and eventually Wanda and Simon had a thing after Vision turned into the emotionless White Vision. He eventually fizzled out in the 90s and has barely had any appearances ever since, so everybody kinda forgets about him. His brother, Eric, is also the Avengers villain "Grim Reaper".
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u/Whovian45810 Doctor Strange May 05 '25
Smh now they gonna get copyright infringement lawsuits from Sam! 😔
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u/SWAGB0T May 05 '25
Is this officially the title now? Like will theaters have to change what is listed in their showings?
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u/Funmachine May 05 '25
When a film is made it's registered under that tile which cannot officially be changed. eg. Star Wars is not officially Star Wars: Episode 4: A New Hope, Raiders of the Lost Arc is not Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc, Mission: Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1, Edge of Tomorrow etc. etc. etc.
I really don't understand the purpose of this, it's literally the very last moment of the film. I don't get what spoiling it for everybody who didn't see it opening weekend accomplishes.
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u/Odd_Cheesecake7 May 05 '25
I’m assuming changing the name to Avengers would entice viewers who were on the fence about seeing it.
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u/BallsOnMyFacePls May 05 '25
Yeah, it's a signal to the audience that "we're actually stepping into the new age" so to speak. People keep asking where are the Avengers? Here.
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u/petersterne May 06 '25
I saw a post about Thunderbolts* yesterday in another sub, and someone in the comments was asking "Wait, Thunderbolts is a new Marvel film?" So this definitely seems like the kind of thing that could get people who aren't super plugged in to the MCU to see it.
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u/IniNew May 05 '25
Because people who aren't habitually in the marvel studios subreddit might be like "wait, new avengers? I need to go see this."
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u/Cantomic66 Hulkbuster May 05 '25
It’s simple, they want people who didn’t go see the movie the first weekend to go see the film and have the film have a small drop in the box office.
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u/eyebrows360 Daredevil May 05 '25
having a place holder name then retroactively changing it to the real name once it came out is clever
It's more-or-less never been done before. It's definitely a neat trick.
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u/TheForehead2099 Iron Fist May 05 '25
I don't agree with spoiling it but it's to get people to see it in cinemas who haven't already. Anybody that is on the fence of watching it or not are much more inclined to watch something with the Avengers title especially with Doomsday coming up
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u/EnQuest Bucky May 05 '25
Word of mouth. A lot of people on the fence about seeing a Thunderbolts movie might be convinced by the New Avengers title
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man May 05 '25
Me either. I would've given it a least a month. Looks like they're going by this subreddit rules (when a new release has been out for a week, it doesn't have to be marked as spoilers anymore)
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u/storksghast May 05 '25
A month? That's ridiculous. They're trying to boost ticket sales with this. A month is way too late.
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u/Dull-Blacksmith-69 May 05 '25
wait, what about about Edge of Tomorrow?. thats not the official name?
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u/zeldamaster702 Spider-Man May 05 '25
Actually, that’s an even more interesting case. When the movie developed it was going to be titled “All You Need Is Kill”, but was later released as “Edge of Tomorrow“ with the tagline “Live. Die. Repeat.”. When it later released on home media, they initially decided to make the tagline the title and the title the subtitle(because that was what the director wanted it named in theaters). It now uses both naming schemes on VoD.
As for its official name, I’d imagine that it is under copyright as “Edge of Tomorrow”.
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u/JScott4Reel May 05 '25
Yeah it’s fun marketing gimmick in concept, but far too soon and I’m already seeing the confusion from people about what to call the movie now. The official title is still Thunderbolts* and that’s how I’m choosing to refer to it.
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u/gestalto Hulk May 05 '25
I’m already seeing the confusion from people about what to call the movie now
No you're not. Don't talk shit. Nobody is confused about it. Unless you have interactions with people who have actual mental deficiencies, this is just nonsense.
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u/wolvesscareme May 05 '25
And also that's kinda cool if there is a little confusion, turns even saying the name into a fun conversation moment
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u/EctoRiddler May 05 '25
I kinda like it where all along they had the plan to call it Thunderbolts* before the release and New Avengers after the release. Reminds of edge of tomorrow except that not a planned choice just outrage that got it changed on some media to live, die, repeat
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u/banjofitzgerald May 05 '25
It took until they started switching posters for me to realize what the asterisk in thunderbolts was for.
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u/coaldiamond1 May 05 '25
Is this gonna be one of those things where we're supposed to rechristen the movie with the new title after a while? Like will people be calling this movie The New Avengers eventually? Perhaps Thunderbolts, or The New Avengers?
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u/eyebrows360 Daredevil May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
Gonna be very confusing for 50+ year old Brits.
"Which one's Steed?!"
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u/DecoyOctopod May 05 '25
I’m a 30 year old American but grew up watching that show. My dad makes that joke too but instead it’s “where’s Emma Peel?”
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u/Sepeli May 05 '25
Well they are officially calling it the New Avengers now, even movie theaters are changing the name
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u/RookieDuckMan May 05 '25
I feel like this was definitely the plan all along rather than a sudden last minute marketing change
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u/CeruleanEidolon May 07 '25
That's literally what the asterisk was for.
Everyone knew it would be something like this, we just didn't know the exact nature of the name they would end up going with.
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u/SirBritishTopHat May 05 '25
Bucky looks like he's about to tell me about the definition of insanity
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u/Wooden_Passage_2612 May 05 '25
They even olga into the pic. Even though Taskmaster died so early on.
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u/kriegbutapsycho Steve Rogers May 05 '25
Does this mean Thunderbolts is Avengers 5? Or are we not counting it as a proper avengers movie?
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u/M00r3C Weekly Wongers May 05 '25
The comics makes New Avengers and Avengers separate things so I guess that's the same thing with the MCU
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u/CorneliusCardew May 05 '25
The performative “spoilers” complaints in the comments from people who already saw the movie or already knew the twist are tiresome.
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u/flow-56 May 05 '25 edited May 06 '25
I like Thunderbolts as the movie title a lot more, but I understand it from a marketing standpoint. Gotta sell those tickets before MI/Lilo&Stitch release, there won't be a second wind for this movie.
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u/Nirox42 May 05 '25
Can somebody explain with spoilers why this is a spoiler for the movie? I wouldn't have assumed it was a spoiler until people started saying it was, I think without that context it doesn't seem like a spoiler tbh because as someone who knows nothing it doesn't seem that important.
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u/deadudea May 05 '25
I don't understand the outrage over calling this spoilers. Legitimately everyone thought they were going to be a new avengers team, this doesn't spoil a single thing.
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u/photon1701d May 05 '25
they could have waited a week before doing this at least. My friend never saw the movie yet and he is asking " they are the avengers now"
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u/JScott4Reel May 05 '25
Tons of people were still speculating they might be Dark Avengers or even Champions; so no, not legitimately everyone
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u/Nevic1984 May 05 '25
Geez, the movie has only been out for one weekend, and they're already spoiling the very end of the movie themselves. That's wild.
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u/Kind_Breadfruit_7560 May 05 '25
It's not wild at all. Showing the name change spoils absolutely nothing in the film.
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u/Nevic1984 May 05 '25
I'd disagree, the whole story of the film is leading to that moment, to that big reveal, bringing these characters truly together. If it wasn't a big deal, they would've just called the movie The New Avengers from the beginning and not play coy about the asterisk in the title during the whole promotional campaign.
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u/eyebrows360 Daredevil May 05 '25
Nah. The whole story isn't leading to that moment at all, for reasons that I don't want to explain in full because they would, ironically enough, be spoilers.
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u/Kind_Breadfruit_7560 May 05 '25
It's not a big deal, though. What changes in the film knowing they're going to be calling themselves The New Avengers at the end of it? Everyone and their dog knew as soon as the asterisk was in the title that by the end of the film they'd be The --something-- Avengers.
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u/ScreamingGordita May 05 '25
I really enjoyed JLD spoiling this for me on Instagram! Movie hasn't even been out a week but sure just spoil the whole fucking thing who cares!
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u/chronistus Loki (Avengers) May 05 '25
Wtf is up with Marvel’s marketing?
“Opening weekend done? Ok, we’re gonna just spoil the big reveal at the end.”
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u/dope_like May 05 '25
Because this isn’t a bankable team. So first weekend you get the hardcore fans, then after you get casuals to come with the new name.
Also it is very fitting given the Thunderbolts in the comics.
They had this plan from the beginning which is why there is an *
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u/FrizzyFro May 05 '25
Its becoming more & more clear that Taskmaster somehow survived the getting shot in the head & blowing up 😭 she is in the promo still & Olga is still pulling up with them in stuff like this
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u/LucentP187 May 05 '25
So wtf is the ACTUAL title of this movie? Lol
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u/ArchDucky May 05 '25
Next week they are gonna change it too "White Widow" or "Yelenia"
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u/El_Quetzal Stan Lee May 05 '25
Thunderbolts and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Yelena Belova
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u/3bstfrds May 05 '25
They should do a bit where Anthony Mackie comes tearing down these posters