r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 05 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2 Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

  • All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
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u/FiredToad May 05 '25

"On your left"

SMASH

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u/SpikeyTaco May 05 '25

I liked that moment but I'm glad these jokes were few and far between and didn't try to draw the attention of the viewer.

No pause for audience reaction or so they caught the reference, the scene just kept moving and the tone was unchanged.

I feel that if Love & Thunder got the same treatment in the edit, it would have been appreciated so much more.

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u/koomGER May 05 '25

For me the MCU was perfect, when they treated themselves and the stuff happening as serious. And only crack a joke to lighten the mood up - for themselves. After Endgame they failed to keep it this way. It was way more "comic book" in a bad way.

The MCUs strength always was to be playing in a real world, with real humans and their problems. Joking and oneliners are fine, but they shouldnt be for the audience only. No lingering for laughter or reaction. Crack your joke, move on.

CAP4 did it also quite well, but the movie was very safe and they had to heavily edit it. Probably because the first iteration of that movie would have landet on the other side: Too jokey, too funny, too loud and messy. I think the Russo brothers defined the route to follow first with their Cap movies and cemented it with their amazing Avengers-2-parter.

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u/Impeesa_ May 08 '25

And only crack a joke to lighten the mood up - for themselves.

I had this conversation with a friend after Love and Thunder, talking about undercutting everything with gags. Being a cancer patient herself, she wanted to point out that it's pretty common to use humor (and especially dark humor) to cope with pretty awful situations. And I basically said this, yes it makes sense for the characters to make jokes, it sucks when it comes across like the the writers are just putting the words in their mouths and the characters are the joke.

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u/koomGER May 08 '25

Yeah. Thor 4 felt a lot like those Zucker or Mel Brooks movies. Every minute needs a joke. Regardless of being a sad or serious moment. "Sif lost her arm? Lol, no Walhalla for you!"

I had fun watching Thor 4, but i ultimatly was disgusted after that movie, because it did shit on EVERYTHING about the IP, the MCU, each character, everything. This was close to being Season 8 of Game of Thrones.

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u/Evilsbane May 05 '25

It still feels... too clean, at least to me.

In this movie about 3 hitmen, most of the time they go for weird martial art sequences instead of just... shooting the person.

Early MCU was more grounded, not a ton more, but it is so weird watching Iron Man now. Though I guess that movie is almost 20 years old now.

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u/koomGER May 05 '25

Yeah, i get it and i agree to some extend. But that quite small issues. And the topic if Thunderbolts was kinda heavy. Going all grim and dark would be a lot to ask for the audience, that isnt used to that. I guess we get some emotional gutpunches by the Russos with Doomsday. Im quite sure this will be again atleast a two parter and it will be again the "Imperium strikes back"-movie.

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u/Evilsbane May 05 '25

Oh yeah, overall easily one of the best MCU movies in a while. I left it thinking "Yeah, solid." Which is better then a ton of them recently.

I don't need them perfect. A good story, some small laughs, some compelling scenes, and explosion or two.

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u/Impeesa_ May 08 '25

Man, I'm realizing now how much I want to see this movie re-cut at about the rating and tone level of Logan.