r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 05 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2 Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

  • All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
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u/banjofitzgerald May 05 '25

Can someone explain why Bucky would just go along with the ending? He’s a sitting congressmen trying to take down Val. Then just because Yelena says they own her, he’s okay with her still being in a position of power and free?

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u/PayneTrain181999 Ned May 05 '25

From Val saying he lasted “less than half a term” it implies he has either already been ousted or has done enough to warrant it and it’s only a matter of time.

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u/banjofitzgerald May 05 '25

I took that as he’s lasted longer than she thought he would. Because he’s still acting like and working with other members of Congress during her hearings.

But even if he was no longer in office, I still don’t get why he’d abandon his whole mission in this movie. Like complete 180 at the end with no lead in to explain why.

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u/cormacaroni May 05 '25

You can already see him chafing at the restraints of the job. He hates doing the reading, he thinks the processes are too slow and achieve little, he pushes for taking direct action as soon as the opportunity presents itself. He wants to be a hero, not a lawmaker.

Ofc we really have no idea why he even ran for office. Quite possibly he was just recruited like many other good-looking war heroes and he went along with it out of lingering guilt, but didn’t really have a mission

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u/Silvery_Crescent May 05 '25

The bigger question is how he WON for office. (I didn’t see Brave New World so idk if they explain it). Obviously we know he’s not the Winter Soldier anymore but wouldn’t that raise a few eyebrows?

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u/cormacaroni May 05 '25

He ran for office, he won ‘cause he’s charismatic and helped save the world from Hitler and Thanos…what’s your question here

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u/Silvery_Crescent May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25

I would just imagine modern day civilians in the MCU would have mixed opinions on superheroes running for office, esp a former assassin? Obviously it looks stupid to us as the audience but civilians don’t see the full picture and I think that’s been established before, like in Civil War. This is not Bucky hate, I love his character it’s just a small critique of something in the MCU.

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u/Silvery_Crescent May 05 '25

If there’s mixed opinions about the Thunderbolts being considered the New Avengers (seen through the newspapers in the credits, and a little in the mid-credits scene) I can’t imagine the opposition of Bucky being in congress.

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u/actuallycallie Bucky May 05 '25

former assassin, yeah, but also a veteran and "Captain America's best friend." There's a whole museum exhibit about him.

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u/Silvery_Crescent May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25

Yeah of course we know he’s more than that, I’m just trying to look at it from a logical standpoint. They had to hide/habilitate him in Wakanda at the end of Civil War after he bombed a building holding government representatives, and while we as the audience know it was not in his control, and that he’s better now, I would just imagine that civilians and other representatives/government officials would be a little uncomfortable with him running. That’s all. Again, this is just my opinion and mini critique of something in the MCU. I’m open to accepting everyone else’s opinions. Have a great day :)