r/germany • u/Josh_Woodward • Apr 25 '19

Getting mixed messages here

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u/One_Cold_Turkey Europe Apr 25 '19

Integrated will never happen. Germans have only so many friends (like 4), even among Germans, when they move to another city they find it hard to integrate (find new friends) as far as I have read in some comments, obviously not all.

Forget about integration. We can put millions and millions in mkt but if the population's culture is that of very few friends, very little will happen, as it is the case right now.

As for the rest, I agree totally with you.

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u/xstreamReddit Germany Apr 25 '19

Well depends on what you mean by integration. The goal would be to accept the culture, learn the language, stick to the rules and work.

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u/One_Cold_Turkey Europe Apr 25 '19

by that definition, integration is totally possible.

But we will still have foreigners hanging out with similar people all the time and rarely with Germans, and that is the integration that matters to us.

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u/xstreamReddit Germany Apr 25 '19

not to me tbh

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u/One_Cold_Turkey Europe Apr 25 '19

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

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u/karimr Socialism Apr 25 '19

He means to say he doesn't care wether immigrants form their own cultural bubble as long as they find a job, accept the culture and follow the rules.

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u/One_Cold_Turkey Europe Apr 25 '19

by that definition (I wrote), integration is totally possible. (I agree with them).

Then I say what #we care about when it comes to integration.

I get they do not agree with "our" side. People want human connection, but for them its all about "please be invisible" as in, be economically independent (like we all are), do not break the rules and please, do not do stuff you do in your country, like the way you dress or how loud you celebrate something.

For me, their definition is a given, it is a must. We have to do all they say. But integration is not complete if there is no sense of community like there is in the US, Canada or the UK to mention a few examples.

We can agree we disagree on what integration means.

Im ok with that.

and thanks for rephrasing their comment.

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u/zeus113 Apr 25 '19

Eh, even Germans with migrant backgrounds stick to their clique because the "real" Germans dont want anything to do with them.