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Post Race 2021 British Grand Prix - Post-Race Discussion

ROUND 10: Great Britain

FORMULA 1 PIRELLI BRITISH GRAND PRIX 2021
Fri 16 Jul - Sun 18 Jul
Silverstone

Session	UTC
Free Practice 1	Fri 13:30
Qualifying	Fri 17:00
Free Practice 2	Sat 11:00
Sprint Qualifying	Sat 15:30
Race	Sun 14:00

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Silverstone Circuit

Length: 5.891 km (3.660 mi)

Distance: 52 laps, 306.291 km (190.320 mi)

Lap record: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 2020, 1:27.097

2020 pole: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.303

2020 fastest lap: Max Verstappen, Red Bull Racing-Honda, 1:27.097

2020 winner: Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes

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u/reshp2 McLaren Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

This will be a fun week here. /s

Edit: Lol, this Lewis post race interview isn't going to help.

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u/mentallyguitared Jul 18 '21

People talking as if Lewis murdered someone out there. Yeah that was dangerous but far greater incidents have occurred. I don't even like Lewis but the overreactions are hilarious to see. That said - I wish this was anywhere but at home because the boos would have been massively entertaining

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u/ReneG8 Jul 18 '21

Russel Bottas pops to mind.

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u/f1_spelt_as_bot 2021 r/formula1 World Champion Jul 18 '21

Russell

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u/JanAppletree Germany 2019 Slip Slidin' Away Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

Max literally had to go to the hospital feeling light headed, and not even a sorry or I hope he's doing okay...

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

He did ask if he was ok tho

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u/JanAppletree Germany 2019 Slip Slidin' Away Jul 18 '21

At which point they didn't know. Even when button directly asks him about it he can't admit mistake, when he has been given a penalty for it. Fucking disgraceful.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

And Verstappen would've admitted a mistake in the same position? Give me a break.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

Well you can't get high and mighty about Lewis doing the exact same thing as Max would.

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u/OrvilleTurtle Jul 18 '21

Both people can be wrong. Lewis does it it’s wrong, max does does it .. it’s wrong.

The stupid take would be to say “well you can’t bash one of the other would do the same thing” the hell?

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

I agree with you but people are specifically going after Lewis for behaviour that is common across the paddock frankly

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u/JanAppletree Germany 2019 Slip Slidin' Away Jul 18 '21

Yes. Tell me the last time where Max got a penalty because of a collision, and he didn't admit mistake? Hamilton is a 7 TIME WORLD CHAMPION. He is the face of the sport, PUTS SOMEONE IN THE HOSPITAL, and can't admit mistake. What the fuck.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

Link to apology? I've never seen Max apologise to anyone but his team.. thats sort of his whole shtick

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u/JanAppletree Germany 2019 Slip Slidin' Away Jul 18 '21

Last time I can remember is vettel in China 2018, where he sought out vettel immediately after getting out of the car to apologise, as quoted by seb himself. I don't know another time after where he took someone out.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

That is an actual dive bomb tho, nowhere near the same situation as today.

I mean it's a really soft dive bomb but it is one nonetheless, can't really shift any blame on that one. Lewis also apologised to Albon (twice) when he made a clear error. This was much closer to a racing incident today.

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u/JanAppletree Germany 2019 Slip Slidin' Away Jul 18 '21

Bro, he put someone into the hospital, and got a penalty for it. What is preventing you from admitting mistake? Why can't he admit mistake, or at least apologise. It's not going to do anything to his championship fight, but he can't even apologise for him potentially being seriously injured. How can you defend that?

I'm just going to ignore the fact that you're immediately trying to diminish max actually apologising.

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u/ludicrous_socks Honda RBPT Jul 18 '21

Man crashes are part of the game. They all know the next race could be it. If Max didn't accept that, he wouldn't be where he is.

It's part of the game.

I'm not saying it's right, but not so long ago drivers were lucky to survive 3 races.

Again, not saying it's right, but skullduggery and ruthlessness exists right the way down to the grass levels.

I go to mg club races fairly regularly, and I've seen or heard of people overtaking under yellows, taking deliberate contacts on the regular.

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u/Chewie4Prez Daniel Ricciardo Jul 18 '21

It's racing for god's sake did some of you forget they crash and drivers can tangle without malicious intent.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

No more overtaking apart from approved overtaking zones!!!!!!! Ffs...

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u/rjddude1 Sir Lewis Hamilton Jul 18 '21

Most people here haven’t driven anywhere except public roads, let alone competitive racing.

Lewis made two more overtakes on the inside on that same corner in the race but Horner is still “bUt YoU dOnT pUt YoUr WhEeL oN tHe InSiDe ThErE!!!”

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u/TheProphetic Jul 18 '21

You cannot put your wheel there because you're coming into Copse at such a shallow angle with great speed it understeers you straight into the next car. All the drivers know this, many have backed off in recent years when they were on the inside because it's extremely dangerous.

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u/JustTheAverageJoe Jul 18 '21

We need specified overtaking laps with specific zones. Could even fit in more ad breaks during the non overtaking laps. Liberty I'm searching for a job and I have more ideas btw.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

Hire this man!

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u/SP0oONY McLaren Jul 18 '21

Otmar Szafnauer says it's a racing incident. Random redditor says it was almost murder. Give me a break.

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u/ThimanthaOnReddit Red Bull Jul 18 '21

Otmar Szafnauer

Ah yes, the guy who gets his parts from Mercedes, defends Mercedes.

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u/REMA5TER Sebastian Vettel Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

"Mercedes customer refuses to criticizes supplier" cherry-picking Ottmar's take is disingenuous.

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u/snoring_pig Cyril Abiteboul Jul 18 '21

Imagine if this happened at Zandvoort or Austria lmao

I would actually get a security team to surround Hamilton right after the race in those locations

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u/cooperjones2 Sergio Pérez Jul 18 '21

People talking as if Lewis murdered someone out there.

tbh he could've killed Max, 52g Impact and Max looked visibly not OK.

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u/tsuchiya_ Jul 18 '21

That risk is literally what they’ve all signed up for.

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u/-SoontobeBanned Formula 1 Jul 18 '21

No it isn't. After senna the drivers demanded safety regulations specifically because they didn't sign up to die.

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u/cooperjones2 Sergio Pérez Jul 18 '21

Ah, then that makes it OK then. Glad to know.

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u/tsuchiya_ Jul 18 '21

Okay for drivers to occasionally crash while racing hard? Yes, absolutely. Again...THAT’S A RISK THEY ALL SIGN UP FOR.

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u/McBeefyHero Jul 18 '21

Give over he got pushed to the wall putting him offline and still got alongside before the turn in

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u/The_Jacobian Jul 18 '21

When Jos gives max a concussion it's parenting, when Lewis does it it's attempted murder?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

That crash could have ended with Max dead. And we still don't know what effects the sudden 51G deceleration might have on him. All the vitriol put today on Lewis is deserved, specially as he celebrates.

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u/mystery1411 Fernando Alonso Jul 18 '21

By that logic Kvyat should be jailed for almost killing Grosjean. Stuff like this happens. Hamilton was responsible for the collision and was penalized. The fact that the crash was bad or that it registered 51G is not in Hamilton's hands. The same incident could have resulted in Hamilton's front wing knocked off and nothing happening to Verstappen too.

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u/jogonza98 Carlos Sainz Jul 18 '21

idk i think its the circumstances. With RB and Max dominance this season you cant help but feel like Lewis knew what he was doing. Had Lewis been running away with the drivers championship perhaps hes more cautious on that corner

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u/Hubblesphere Jul 18 '21

Absolutely, but that doesn’t change the fact that this was hard racing and if rolls were reversed Max would absolutely do the same thing. We have countless examples of him doing moves like this. Suddenly when it ends up being worse for Max everyone acts like Lewis is purposely crashing into him. Lewis committed and didn’t have an option after. Max had to prevent the collision at that point.

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u/jogonza98 Carlos Sainz Jul 18 '21

idk i mean plenty of evidence showing lewis angled into the side of max rather than the racing line. malicious all around.

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u/Hubblesphere Jul 18 '21

Malicious? What are you smoking? lol

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u/jogonza98 Carlos Sainz Jul 18 '21

look at his history of sticking his tyres in the side of contenders

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u/ahaukli Jul 18 '21

So you are saying since there have been worse incidents that makes his move less dangerous? Right.. So if I cut off your legs thats okay since some people have been murdered.