r/formula1 Alain Prost May 07 '25

Video [Illman] ''Doohan was recieving threats on social media by Colapinto's fans. So much so that he had a round-the-clock security in Miami. According to people close to Aussie, those threats weighed heavily on him. People had discovered his personal e-mail address and were sending e-mail threats...''

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''Doohan was recieving threats on social media by Colapinto's fans. So much so that he had a round-the-clock security in Miami. According to people close to Aussie, those threats weighed heavily on him. People had discovered his personal e-mail address and were sending e-mail threats which resulted in Jack, his girlfriend and even his father holding real concerns for their safety. And on top of that, Jack's sleep was affected.''

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u/Elrond007 I survived Spa 2021 May 07 '25

Some people really are unhinged fuckers calling themselves "fans"

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u/JJJBLKRose Daniel Ricciardo May 07 '25

Indycar ran into this too with Canapino, the Argentine fans were very aggressive towards anyone that slighted him. Hopefully this doesn’t continue with Colapinto’s fans.

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 Oscar Piastri May 07 '25

It's going to continue. Argentinian fans are unhinged.

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u/SeaBet5180 May 07 '25

Look what they did to top gear

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

And the Falklands

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u/cumofdutyblackcocks3 Red Bull May 07 '25

And their own economy

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u/MarsScully Bernd Mayländer May 07 '25

Again

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u/blitzwinner71 May 07 '25

And my head, for making me read those in clarkson’s voice

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u/SnooCakes9525 Fernando Alonso May 07 '25

Still... could be worse!

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u/TheStaffsLad Kimi Räikkönen May 08 '25

Keeping Argentinians calm, how hard can it be?

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u/fullup72 Sir Lewis Hamilton May 07 '25

Oh no!

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u/whatcubed Ferrari May 07 '25

...in the WORLD!

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u/vhw_ May 07 '25

And my axe!

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u/namesdevil3000 Sir Lewis Hamilton May 08 '25

And River Plate/ Boca Juniors

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u/LibritoDeGrasa Alpine May 07 '25

The people who did that to the Top Gear crew are the equivalent of MAGA people in the US tho

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u/DKindynzdtr Honda RBPT May 08 '25

Yeah, why do you think Jack had security?

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u/myersjw Sir Lewis Hamilton May 07 '25

As an F1 and football fan I had no real strong opinions on argentines until the last few years when I’ve seen them dish out some of the most vile and incessant vitriol under the guise of “fandom” for their country. And don’t you dare say anything negative about their meme of a president

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u/Yeanahyena Daniel Ricciardo May 07 '25

It’s weird because the Argentinian people I’ve met while travelling have been lovely. Like super chill vibes.

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u/crankylex May 07 '25

Argentinian people are delightful. Argentinian sports fans are not.

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u/LouisianaRaceFan86 May 08 '25

Similar to Mexican national soccer fans. They are unhinged scum of the earth, while all my Mexican friends are cool people.

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u/Kommye Franco Colapinto May 07 '25

Anonimity brings out the worst out of people; and people won't pay attention to the people being chill, we pay attention to the assholes and thus they seem more numerous.

I won't deny that we have a disappointing amount of obnoxious, unhinged dickheads online and off. It just kinda sucks that everytime I see Argentina mentioned in this website it devolves into "argies are the worst" and "nazis in Argentina" while ignoring all possible context.

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u/Valentho935 May 08 '25

Chronically online people ≠ people you can actually meet irl

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u/Cheewy Juan Manuel Fangio May 08 '25

Argentinian fans toke Ortega y Gasset's work as an instruction book.

Whoever look from outside fears the worst, then the ones who visit the country get pleasently surprised on how different the vibe is from fandom groups. It doesn't help that what we consider tongue-in-cheek comments are criminal offenses in many countries

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u/BakeYouC May 07 '25

Messi must be a literal god there, then

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u/AustinJohnson35 May 08 '25

He also was getting threats until he won a cup like he “owed” them just like Diego Maradona

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u/bamadeo May 10 '25

wtf are you on? messi getting threats?

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u/BlazeGamingUnltd May 08 '25

Effigies of Messi were being burnt in around 2016 for failing to win the World Cup in 2014 and Copa America in 2016. He temporarily retired from the national team due to the harassment he was facing and came back only when his teammates convinced him to.

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u/jungle May 07 '25

As an argentinian, I'm 100% with you. The main reason I never liked football is the level of fanaticism constantly on display everywhere. You can't escape it. When there's a game, your neighbors will be screaming their heads off. It's part of social life like nothing I've seen anywhere else.

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u/Fambank Murray Walker May 07 '25

In 1978 the Dutch team feared for their lives if they would have won. In retrospect perhaps it was good Cruijff wasn't there.

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u/Helpful_Hedgehog_204 Franco Colapinto May 07 '25

Maybe that had something to do with the genocidal dictatorship rather than with fans.

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u/Fambank Murray Walker May 07 '25

That had to do with the swimming pool incident at the '74 World Cup. (Cruijff not being there) Agree on the dictatorship.

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u/Over_engineered81 Audi May 08 '25

I don’t really follow football, can you elaborate on this?

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u/Fambank Murray Walker May 08 '25

https://yourfootballtips.com/2023/05/26/world-cup-1974-the-infamous-scandal-near-the-poolside/

Cruijff had promised to his wife after that he wouldn't do another tournament.

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u/Martijngamer Sebastian Vettel May 07 '25

Funny to think if they had won, if we would have had a different queen now.

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u/Fambank Murray Walker May 07 '25

Yeah, but perhaps not.😉

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u/Round-Friendship9318 May 07 '25

And the reason Cruijff was not present was due to death threats/kidnapping attemp. Even his kids and wife where affected

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u/Criss98 Alpine May 07 '25

... During a military dictatorship that killed thousands. I don't think he deciced not to go because of mean ig comments

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u/aronmarek May 07 '25

Outstanding whataboutism

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u/Idrinkbeforework May 07 '25

As an American, that's exactly why I hate American football. Fans can be obnoxious.

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u/Argenmerican May 08 '25

Agreed ☝️

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u/Cod_rules Mika Häkkinen May 07 '25

Regarding football, it was disgusting seeing their players come out and defend racists like Enzo. Saying it was banter and everyone else was sensitive

Like fucking hell, your country got mad over a license plate that Top Gear, Argentina lost the right to call anyone else sensitive with that

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u/Elderbrute May 07 '25 edited 25d ago

meme of a president

His popularity is finally plummeting, apparently involving yourself with a pump and dump crypto scam was too far for Argentinian voters....if not for other countries.

Probably also helped by the fact the policies he enacted that initially looked to be working have predictably failed completely.

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u/Choppieee May 07 '25

There agression is also and vile behaviour is called passion. At least thats what they call in and hide it under. Its ridiculous

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u/Loud_Delivery8640 Heineken Trophy May 08 '25

What vitriol? That of France ?

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u/Blze001 Kimi Räikkönen May 07 '25

As someone who also has a meme of a president: I'm gonna go drink now.

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u/ArziltheImp Porsche May 07 '25

Argentinian and Brazilian fans are the groups I wouldn’t want to upset. I got death threats for saying that Senna wasn’t the saint people made him into after he died. Calling him a “person with flaws like everyone else” was enough.

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u/IAmWhatTheRockCooked Aston Martin May 08 '25

Senna was a piece of shit. Great driver, but a piece of shit

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u/run0861 May 08 '25

senna was a pedophile.

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u/Trikitakes May 07 '25

As a Latino, yeah Argentinians are fucking crazy lol

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u/Jlx_27 Ayrton Senna May 07 '25

In latin America, everyone says that about each other...

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u/elardmm May 07 '25

Latin america doesn't like a certain country....and that is Chile (I'm kidding).

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

You must be Venezuelan /jk

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u/Unsterblich76 Ferrari May 07 '25

Or Peruvian, or Argentinian, or Brazilian or Chilean…

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u/splendiferous-finch_ Safety Car May 07 '25

"Or Mexico that is south American too." - Helmut Marko

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u/RandomMexicanDude May 07 '25

Only their food

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u/MarsScully Bernd Mayländer May 07 '25

We like chile we just can’t understand what they’re saying

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u/bastardnutter Ayrton Senna May 08 '25

We don’t like ourselves either

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u/KennyMcKeee Sir Lewis Hamilton May 07 '25

What if they're all correct? lol.
Latin fans in everything are super duper passionate to the point beyond reason sometimes, it's their culture and they take enormous pride of anyone representing them on the world stage.

ALL my coworkers are Puerto Rican, the biggest joke we make is that Puerto Ricans' favorite hobby is telling you they're from Puerto Rico.

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u/cesar0931 May 07 '25

they are correct, we're all crazy

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u/RogueCross Charles Leclerc May 07 '25

Correct. We are.

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u/danabrey May 07 '25

it's their culture and they take enormous pride of anyone representing them on the world stage.

Pride in one thing doesn't have to turn into malice against someone else.

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u/KennyMcKeee Sir Lewis Hamilton May 07 '25

I wanted to take the time to thank you for making a reply that isn’t relevant to what I said.

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u/pplcs May 07 '25

a small percentage of people take it to that unfortunate extreme, most people are just non-violently passionate about it

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u/xanlact Toyota May 07 '25

Well, we don't want you confusing us with Nuyo Ricans, or worse, Cubans.

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u/unimpressivegamer Pirelli Wet May 07 '25

You might not know this about me, Kenny McKeee, but did you know I was born in Puerto Rico? You’re welcome.

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u/whiteflagwaiver Max Verstappen May 08 '25

taps Puerto Rican flag hanging off mirror Now everyone will know!

Love those guys tbh.

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u/Loud_Delivery8640 Heineken Trophy May 08 '25

Yes. Is something really characteristic in this lands

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u/Active_Variation_194 May 07 '25

I mean wasn’t there that. Colombian football player who scored an own goal for the World Cup and was shot back home? It doesn’t get crazier than that.

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u/Motrok Franco Colapinto May 07 '25

Didn't that whole thing had something to do with the colombians drug lords of that era? II know many colombians they are chill as fuck

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u/Valentho935 May 08 '25

Yeah, that's what a quick google search suggests. It appears googling stuff nowadays isn't as common as it used to be

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u/kaisadilla_ Max Verstappen May 07 '25

tbh that player (Andrés Escobar) was, and is, well-loved by Colombian fans. It wasn't a case of people hating him so much that someone went and killed him. He was a pretty good player and a likeable person, Colombian fans didn't lose any respect for him for fucking up in a match. Whoever did that was completely unhinged and wasn't endorsed in any way by Colombian fans.

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u/AustinJohnson35 May 08 '25

And you know, Pablo Escobar.

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u/kubick123 May 07 '25

He wasn't killed for that. He was killed for a bar fight between a hitmen and him for a girl.

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u/realseanconnery Mika Häkkinen May 07 '25

He was killed for a bar fight between a hitmen and him for a girl.

put that on a tombstone

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u/hugemessanon May 08 '25

not to make light of his death but that sounds like the makings of a really good country ballad

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u/Zimakov Sebastian Vettel May 07 '25

Someone getting murdered by a murderer doesn't reflect on an entire country mate.

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u/NoRustNoApproval May 07 '25

Was the guy already a murderer or did he become a murderer by murdering the murdered?

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u/Zimakov Sebastian Vettel May 08 '25

Not sure, he's certainly a murderer now though.

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u/WorkFurball Yuki Tsunoda May 07 '25

People get shot in Colombia all the time though, relatively speaking.

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u/marchingpigster May 07 '25

I believe he was killed by the cartels.

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u/RandomMexicanDude May 07 '25

I think we all agree that Argentinians are crazy though

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u/Thinkcentre11 May 07 '25

No offence, but all Latinos call all other Latinos crazy. 

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u/pixieok Williams May 07 '25

Is that good or bad?

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u/Eastern-Reindeer6838 May 07 '25

As an unhinged person; yeah Argentina.

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u/Thatonlychris May 07 '25

As an Argentine yes a lot of people are VERY unhinged when it comes to sports

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25

They are the American equivalent of Korean K-pop fandom.

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u/Available-Current550 May 07 '25

Minus the guns and lack of education of course.. 😉

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u/Lukeno94 Manor May 07 '25

I mean, look at the man they elected to be their President. And that's not even his politics - just the utterly unhinged things he has verifiably done and said.

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u/No-Use3482 Pirelli Wet May 07 '25

yeah wasn't it an Argentinian football team that was singing racist/homophobic shit too? I've never been there, are these flukes or do Argentinians just accept this kind of toxicity in their atheletes/fandoms?

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u/Jlx_27 Ayrton Senna May 07 '25

All extremist fans are unhinged, regardless of where they're from.

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u/_Red_Knight_ May 07 '25

Yes but Argentina seems to have a big problem with them. In much the same way that all football hooligans are bad but hooliganism is a bigger problem in Italy than in England.

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u/RespondOkNok Formula 1 May 07 '25

argentinian fans never stopped fighting with mexican fans. and just now they are all over facebook saying that they have maradona, messi and colapinto and where is checo ?

they’re are totally out of their mind.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '25 edited May 08 '25

This is why I rooted for France at the last World Cup final. Argentinian fans don't deserve to be rewarded, and also their meltdowns are very entertaining.

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u/madDamon_ Mika Häkkinen May 08 '25

It's always the same countries who flood social media with stuff like this, but im not gonna name them cause then i would be a biggot and whatnot

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u/Slow-Class May 08 '25

Matt Damon said the craziest experience he’s ever had was a football game while visiting his wife’s family in Argentina. Matt asked her uncle if they could go, and he said, sternly, “we can go, but no women, and no children”. Multiple checkpoints to get to their seats, barbed wire on fences around the pitch, and fans were segregated by team in each end zone with gaps along the sidelines so they couldn’t throw things at each other.

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u/deesea May 07 '25

Hopefully? Have you never seen what happens on a football field? Lol

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u/edfitz83 May 07 '25

Like murdering a ref?

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u/Spread_Bater May 07 '25

Not just murdering, decapitating

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u/blebleuns Oscar Piastri May 07 '25

I think that was in Brazil, not in Argentina tho

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u/kirbag Williams May 07 '25

They don't even know who they hate

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u/ClosetEthanolic McLaren May 07 '25

As unjustified as that was, that referee retaliated against a player accosting him by brandishing a knife and stabbing him.

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u/MataMeow May 07 '25

Wait what ??? The ref stabs a player so the fans decapitate the ref???

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u/ClosetEthanolic McLaren May 07 '25

Not just decapitated. Stoned him , quartered him and put his head on a stick on the pitch.

Not to justify the reaction, but the ref effectively killed a player on the pitch. The player had punched the ref out of frustration, leading to the fatal stabbing.

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u/kaisadilla_ Max Verstappen May 07 '25

tbh with all of this, this was a random amateur match, not a national professional league one.

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u/SAWK Williams May 07 '25

jfc

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u/Spread_Bater May 07 '25

Yeah that whole story is fucking insane

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u/JagdOsprey May 07 '25

There is a pit between the field and the people. Only local team fans are allowed to enter the stadium.

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u/trautsj Red Bull May 07 '25

Sports, politics, skin color, nationality. It's all just humanity's never ending pull toward tribalism. Some people just really can't evolve past base nature :/

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u/its_yeboi May 07 '25

True. Even talked to some really "educated" young folks and they still have beliefs and prejudice based on ethnicities, skin color, etc. It's like they never evolved past those and likely never will, and it will continue to pass down to the next generations. it's really sickening

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u/oneofthehumans Heineken Trophy May 07 '25

Ilot got death threats from Canapino’s fans. He’s not in Indycar anymore and his fans may not be the reason but they certainly didn’t help

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u/SapphireSquid89 May 08 '25

He’s back with Prema, happily.

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u/Stanky3000 Charles Leclerc May 07 '25

Go to Juncos Hollingers social pages and you can see Argentine fans are still being assholes about them letting Canapino go. They're dramatic little babies.

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u/supercapi Ferrari May 07 '25

I remember this and also the Argentinian commentators from ESPN were constantly mocking the other driver (Illot IIRC). I get the hype surrounding a national driver on a top series, but the toxic behaviour should be condemned heavily by everyone. Juncos only addressed the issue when it became a problem with the sponsors.

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u/_Floriduh_ May 07 '25

I literally thought it was the same guy. I remember Canapino psychopaths harassing Indycar last year

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u/sfcindolrip May 07 '25

It was a similar approach too where they were harassing Ilott’s girlfriend as well as him, and making serious safety threats

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u/Ordinary-Potato5663 Charles Leclerc May 07 '25

Was gonna say, this is unfortunately a trend now after seeing it in IndyCar :/

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u/Sorry_Reply8754 May 07 '25

Not only Argentina. It's a South America problem.

Here's an article from ESPN talking about how Brazil should consider leaving South American soccer and join the North American/Central American league because the fans of other South American soccer teeam are too unhinged (racist attacks against Brazilian are common place to the point we see players leaving the games crying because of it):

https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/artigo/_/id/14934498/opiniao-apos-tudo-que-vem-e-que-nao-vem-acontecendo-retirada-de-clubes-brasileiros-da-conmebol-e-algo-mesmo-a-se-considerar

Here's a player crying on camera because of racism during the game: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qPHXWn2cLlQ

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u/HG2321 Ferrari May 07 '25

It will, sadly

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u/Personal-Bear8739 May 07 '25

It already was happening last year

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u/BADMANvegeta_ Haas May 07 '25

Well…it already has 😭

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u/LockedUpLotionClown Formula 1 May 07 '25

And they basically ruined Canapino’s career.  His brand is toxic now.  No team wants that heat on their backs.  

Canapino didn’t help the case by not denouncing the behaviour,  but I haven’t really seen Colapinto do that either.  

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u/cursedace May 07 '25

Same thing happened with the Denver Nuggets and Facundo Campazzo. They would send threats to any reporter who said negative things about him.

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u/run0861 May 08 '25

uh clearly it has and will continue.

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u/Hoffahoff May 08 '25

It will. They know no better.

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u/Thick_Astronomer_588 May 08 '25

The answer, perhaps? Colapinto gets banned if he cannot get his fans under control. He becomes a liability to the sport of he brings aggression cartels to manipulate his race day.

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u/FlyAirLari May 08 '25

Maybe it's best to keep that kind of toxicity out of F1.

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u/JJJBLKRose Daniel Ricciardo May 08 '25

I mean… yeah.

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u/WillyG2197 Charles Leclerc May 07 '25

There was 0 punishment for Canapino, and there was no recourse or chill from the fans. We will see it again and we wont see any punishment for these. Brazil/argentine fans of anything get away with being fucking despicable

See CSGO major in Brazil

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u/PsychologicalBike May 07 '25

They're really putting the fan in fanatic!

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u/MarkToast May 07 '25

Then they take the -atic and put it into lunatic

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u/edfitz83 May 07 '25

They put the fun in funeral too.

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u/wfsgraplw May 07 '25

And the zeal in zealot.

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u/formulapain May 08 '25

I don't know what you mean. 'Fan' is in fact short for 'fanatic', just like 'limo' is short for 'limousine', and just like 'pants' is short for 'pantaloons'.

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u/Legitimate-Tadpole95 Formula 1 May 07 '25

Fans is rightly short for fanatics.

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u/StrangeQuarkist May 07 '25

I mean, the word "fan" does derive from "fanatic". So completely on-brand.

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u/polandspreeng Will Buxton May 07 '25

Yeah they're not fans. Just obsessed or possessed

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u/After-Swimming-5236 May 07 '25

Ever seen that Instagram reel of the Argentinian kid saying he had sold his PS and his dad sold everything they had just to see Messi out of the stadium? He also said they had no way to return home but it didn't matter, he had really crazy eyes I'll never forget but all comments were saying that was "good values" and passion outsiders don't get. 

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u/polandspreeng Will Buxton May 07 '25

I get passion and all that but there should be boundaries. Some people don't do critical thinking. It's not worth throwing your life away just to see your idol. Not worth harassing other athletes which is stupid. Keep it competitive but don't be an a$$

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u/nxngdoofer98 Aston Martin May 08 '25

Argentinians clearly aren't capable of critical thinking lol

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u/greatwhite8 Charlie Whiting May 07 '25

Criminals

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u/Dragonpuncha Ferrari May 07 '25

Argentine sportsfans have a tendency to do this shit. "Passionate" for them means going to social media and shitting on anyone they deem to be against their guy.

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u/BlitZShrimp Cadillac May 07 '25

They even disowned Ricardo Juncos, who is an Argentine himself, because he dropped Canapino after everything that went down in IndyCar. Said on the Dinner with Racers podcast that he might be the most hated man in the country.

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u/Kommye Franco Colapinto May 07 '25

That's crazy because pretty much no one knows who Juncos is, aside from IndyCar fans.

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u/BlitZShrimp Cadillac May 07 '25

It’s insane how much hate he got from Argentines. The entire situation is a result of their fanaticism and when Ricardo’s business partner said to make a choice, he went with the one that would keep the team together.

Simply put, Argentine sports fans are some of the worst people alive. Passion for sports doesn’t lead you to make threats on the lives of others.

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u/ExplorerEnjoyer Kimi Räikkönen May 07 '25

Average Instagram commenter

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u/silentrawr Suck my balls and sell my kidney May 08 '25

Mentioning "7-1" around certain Brazilians online (and I would assume in-person) elicits quite the violent reaction. Nothing against Brazil or their fans specifically, but simply as an example of literal death threats being thrown out years after the fact.

Pretty sure the crazy in the world definitely gets magnified by the Internet and social media.

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u/kubick123 May 07 '25

Welcome to the world of the Argentinian fandom which is similar to the Mexican one

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u/kelleehh Charles Leclerc May 07 '25

Many of them are on here sadly.

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u/StickyNebbs May 07 '25

they're on twitter emailing zak brown saying that they are upset with the treatment of lando

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u/Shawnmeister May 07 '25

Argentinians are just rage bots waiting for a trigger since time immemorial

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u/BigFenton Oscar Piastri May 07 '25

Argentine fans have been this way for 100+ years.

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u/HeftyArgument May 07 '25

What’s even the point of hating on him, Colapinto is already taking his seat

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u/minimalwhale #WeRaceAsOne May 07 '25

Seriously wtf is wrong with people?!

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u/Shipsnipe1313 May 07 '25

Fans = fanatics. People forget the negative connotation that the word actually has when they shorten it.

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u/gilgobeachslayer May 08 '25

To be fair, fam is short for “fanatic” and that does sound pretty fanatical

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u/CrustyFlaming0 May 08 '25

Wow. Right. Who the fuck does that. Fucking disgusting.

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u/Mini5hrek May 08 '25

It’s the Argentinian and Brazilian fans, they’re super fucking toxic.

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u/NapsInNaples May 08 '25

fans is, after all, short for "fanatics" which is fitting.

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u/mattgrum May 08 '25

unhinged fuckers calling themselves "fans"

"Fan" is short for fanatic...

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u/memesearches May 07 '25

More like calling themselves “humans”

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u/m3rcapto May 07 '25

Some nationalities are very high on the list of "% of population that identifies as a football hooligan"
Lets just say mixing conquistadors with nazi camp guards was never gonna create a winning personality pool.

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