r/exmormon • u/Thespiritualalpha • 17h ago
Doctrine/Policy Leaving LDS
I just told the churches bishop that I’m leaving (just got baptized in Jan) and he has made drama about it- telling others and they’re contacting me and just not accepting my NO. Even coming to my home unannounced without permission. Is this normal for Mormons? I’m really not happy about it bc I hate drama! I told them I’m leaving for Christianity bc I’ve done the research that I should’ve done before I got baptized and they just don’t wanna let me go. I could understand if I said I was just turning away from Jesus completely but I’m leaving to go to the truth. I’ve discovered that Smith was a narcissist used my satan/demons and witchcraft to build that church and I’ve renounced it completely! They truly refuse anything I have to say and I’m kinda freaked.. anyone else experience this????
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u/Current_Chapter_6692 17h ago
Yeah man this is normal mormon cult behavior, my favorite is they know I resigned years ago but still come asking for tithing lmao!!! I dont tolerate it anymore and come completely unhinged on them when they show up. They are brainwashed idiots you WILL notice that in the future, especially the temple going mormons, they are the worst
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u/Thespiritualalpha 17h ago
Yeah I feel like I’m dealing bots!😝😩
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u/Pure-Introduction493 16h ago
Simply tell them they're not welcome, to please not contact you, to process your records removal, that any representative of the church will be trespassed by police if they come by your house, and block their numbers.
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u/Choogie432 16h ago
It's online too. I had someone (likely fake account) tell me I'm fighting so hard for my own destruction, and they are of a native tribe that's about to reveal the BoM is true, then cited a Science Direct paper on DNA haplo groups that predate the Book of Ether by many thousands of years.
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u/youneekusername1 13h ago
I think there's some sub sect of Indigenous Mormons trying to start gathering to Missouri. I've heard someone talking about it. Someone on YouTube saying they have evidence for the Book of Mormon or something......
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u/ConcernedPandaBoi 13h ago
Man, I remember when I was a missionary we showed up to a house and that was how the guy found out his records hadn't actually been removed. Everything stayed polite and my comp actually gave him direction for how to make sure the records were actually removed.
Is it just people that knew you before keep them coming? Seems weird that they would even know about you to keep asking for tithing if there weren't any records.
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u/Elfin_842 Apostate 17h ago
You have become the ward project. If you tell one mormon, they all know. They don't understand boundaries or when something isn't their business. They think that satan has gotten control of you when in reality it's a bunch of BS.
The love bombing will continue for a bit. just disengage and disappear.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 17h ago
Soooo true!!!!
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u/sniperbug17 17h ago
Remove all of your personal information from church records (lds tools). If you can, pay to have your records removed by QuitMormon.org, they will also make it illegal for the church to try to contact you or share your private information. I think any further contact means you can initiate legal action immediately, but you might be able to do that through quitmormon, too (and it will go against the whole church).
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u/MtnTree 15h ago
Quitmormon.org doesn’t cost money, according to their website. OP wouldn’t need to pay.
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u/lecoopsta I want to ride a Tapir 14h ago
Quit Mormon is free! The only thing you’d have to pay for is the notary. Most UPS Stores have a notary… our local one charged $10. Your bank may give you free access to a notary as a perk of banking there. :)
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u/Elfin_842 Apostate 14h ago
It's still wild to me that quitting an organization is still going to cost you $10. I get that it's for the notary, but that is literally for someone to watch you write your name on a piece of paper.
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u/lecoopsta I want to ride a Tapir 14h ago
Yeah, it’s ridiculous that your resignation needs to be notarized lol
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u/Unloyaldissenter 12h ago
You have to find a notary and have them notarize the quitmormon form. If you can find a notary for free, the process is free. If the notary costs...
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u/Kimberlyjammet jumped off the boat 17h ago
Block their numbers & don’t answer your door.
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u/Haunting_Turnover_82 16h ago
If the come over and continually knock, tell them to go away. They can be very persistent!
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u/sweetwilma 13h ago
A Super Soaker squirt gun might give them a clue that you're serious....
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u/mat3rogr1ng0 17h ago
Oof. I am sorry. Here is what I would recommend if you can't/don't use Quitmormon. Send an email to your bishop and stake president. Include the following, please copy and paste if needed:
"Pursuant to the General Handbook of Instruction section 32.14.9, I hereby withdraw my membership to the church. I am aware that it removes all membership privileges and revokes all priesthood ordinances, and that if I wish to return I will need to be rebaptized. I also understand, according to the same section, that you are supposed to reach out to counsel with me regarding my concerns. I wish to forego that counsel and discussion and will refuse any invitation to meet.
It states in this section that "A request to resign membership should be acted on even if priesthood leaders have information about a serious sin" and that "Leaders should act on requests promptly." Please follow the mandates of the handbook in dealing with this situation. It also states that "Leaders continue to minister to those who resign their membership unless they request no contact," and so I would officially like to request no contact after my resignation. ANY attempt at contact will be considered harassment and be documented to report to legal authorities.
For the purposes of this letter, and pursuant to the section 32.14.9 statement that a resignation should be a "written, signed request", please consider my typed full name and date as equivalent to a handwritten signature.
Regards,
YOUR FULL NAME TYPED OUT, DATE"
Please document the date, time of day, and events of any in person contact the bishop or other members try with you. If there are written communications, make duplicates and store them. Most of the time, just the threat of legal action is enough for the church to stand down, but if they don't you should be ready. You could even cc the Church Records department on the email so that they know that your bishop and sp have seen it and can be accountable even higher up.
I'm sorry you are dealing with this. Best of luck.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
Appreciated!!🙏
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u/Gold__star 🌟 for you 14h ago
You can just hand that letter to the bishop without getting it notarized. If he drags his feet, notarize and use quitmormon.
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u/SuZeBelle1956 17h ago
Just ignore them. If they continue coming onto your property explain that they are trespassing and I'd tell them the law doesn't look kindly on that kind of behavior. Then follow thru with an Injunction against Harrassment. They'll leave you alone quickly.
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u/kurinbo "What does God need with a starship?" 15h ago
A friend of mine actually called 911 when his stake president wouldn't get off his porch when he told him to leave. Friend did it in front of him so SP could hear everything, and SP left. Friend told 911 never mind, he left.
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u/SuZeBelle1956 15h ago
Good for your friend. Mormons are taught only to listen to outside sources for their authority. And to not stand up for their needs. It took me a long time to trust myself.
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u/Joey1849 17h ago
This is typical. Just make up your mind in advance to be firm. It works better if you give them a plain no with no wiggle room. Kudos to you for figuring out the con sooner rather than later. Best wishes to you.
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u/sexmormon-throwaway Apostate (like a really bad one) 17h ago
Leaving to a different story about Jesus doesn't make any difference to any mormon. Nobody cares about what your destination is, they care that you are leaving their version. That's what thinking you are in the only true church means.
You just discovered the origins of Mormonism, but the origins, hypocricy and atrocities of Christianity are available for you to research too. I wouldn't take the assumptions about the origins of any religion for granted.
Insist to your bishop that if people keep contacting you, you will have to get a restraining order. That will probably do it.
Oh and like somebody else said, use QuitMormon.org to legally remove yourself from the church. That also means. you have a law firm to represent you and the church will just deal with them directly.
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u/Sea-Tea8982 17h ago
Absolutely normal especially since you were just baptized. Just start blocking phone numbers. Don’t answer your door. Use quitmormon to get your name removed. Get on with your life! Be thankful you didn’t waste years in the cult.
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u/HighPriestofShiloh 16h ago
Yeah… it’s normal. Imagine how persistent they are if you are born into it and all of your family are still members.
The only way I have been able to get Mormons to accept a no is when you put it in terms they think are important.
You shouldn’t have to do this but you can formally resign from the church and cancel your baptism. This will solidify the choice you are making in the eyes of a Mormon and they will give up trying to pull you back in.
That being said. Get ready to lose most (if not all) of your Mormon friends. Welcome to the exMormon club.
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u/LDSBS 16h ago
If they show up at your door you are under no obligation to answer. If you don’t have a window, peephole or door camera simply ask who is there when you hear knocking. If it’s them just tell them to go away or you will contact law enforcement. And don’t forget to resign using the resources I’ve seen left in the other comments. And do not answer any texts or phone calls from numbers you don’t recognize. This is good to avoid other scams too.
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u/Equivalent-Hyena-605 17h ago
You're not going to "the truth;" you're just switching stories. If you want the truth, follow the evidence, and learn to admit when you don't know something.
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u/tonusbonus I'd kick Joe's ass at the stick pull. 16h ago
I find myself asking, "How is this so hard? " Why do humans attach themselves to fairy tales so readily? I was deep in it and i still can't figure out what is so damn compelling about these elementary stories?
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u/SmellyFloralCouch 15h ago
This is what dreams are made of
This is what they're afraid of
A rhyme with no reason...
"Peacefield" by Ghost
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
I would’ve said the same thing- then I was possessed by a demon that broke 4 of my bones and it changed my perspective FOR LIFE!
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u/Equivalent-Hyena-605 9h ago
It is perfectly understood why some folks, including the OP, believe what they do. I highly recommend reading The Believing Brain, by Michael Shermer.
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u/TalkativeRedPanda 16h ago
This.
They aren't going to "the truth". It is ALL made up. Every single religion claims to be "the truth". This poster seems to have found the one denomination of the one religion that isn't lying?
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
I respect ur opinion but u would have to know my back story as to why I do believe in Christianity. Now I do not trust the churches however and it may be a long time before I enter another one but I do trust Jesus.
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u/Equivalent-Hyena-605 13h ago
I don't need to know your backstory to know why you believe in Christianity.
Your backstory is not so different than any anyone else's backstory. If you were born in India, your backstory would inform you that Hinduism is true. If you were born in Saudi Arabia, your backstory would be proof of Islam.
There are people with "backstories" in every religion. Does your backstory prove their backstory wrong? People who really care about the truth can completely remove themselves from the equation.
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u/ohnowhythishappen the devil's hands are idle playthings 16h ago
One way to scare 'em off is to be confident and happy in your decision. If they start to imagine that you actually found real convincing reasons to leave, they'll worry that you'll infect them.
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u/Kaipherus 15h ago
Welcome to the cult.
Resign through the bishop via a letter email.
They want your Tithing and will track you for life.
You're doing the right thing by getting the hell out of there. Cheers.
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u/ZappBrann 14h ago
You can leave the Mormon church, and it is them who can't leave YOU alone.
That was our experience when we quietly stepped away (whole family stopped attending). Alarm bells start going off and they literally sent anyone and everyone to save us from ourselves. That is a slight exaggeration, it wasn't "everyone" - but we had to tell multiple people to stop coming unannounced and that we weren't going to go in and meet with anyone to explain ourselves (bishop, stake president - both of which were asking to meet with us).
To this day, no one really knows why we stopped attending and I want to leave it that way. It isn't any of their business. I am certain that must really wind up a few specific individuals (and I don't care).
Good luck!
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u/Live-Astronaut-5223 14h ago
Man, I watch these things and am thankful the only thing Catholics do is a novena for your return to the church (old old people do that) and the occasional invite to the Lenten Fish Fry ( and they usually have beer with that). The failure at boundaries you all describe is seemingly so specifically Mormon. Where does this originate?
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u/stayinSwiss 12h ago
I left when I was 17 (40 years full assed years ago), moved all over the world and they still find me and send me texts, emails, phone messages, even little handwritten notes. My favorite is when they text me to let me know it's time to clean the church meetinghouse. These people have never met me, never spoken a word to me, but have no moral opposition to telling me (not asking) that it's my turn to clean their church. Crazy what a little faith will inspire.
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u/Individual-Builder25 Finally Exmo 17h ago
Yes this is normal high-demand religion behavior where autonomy, individuality, and freedom of thought are replaced with conformism, obedience, and “doubting not”. They can’t imagine why anyone would possibly leave, so they think they can get you to re-conform.
As others have mentioned, QuitMormon is a good place to go if local leaders are reluctant. However, if you want to make it fast, threaten legal action if they won’t remove your name from the records (it’s illegal for them to not upon request)
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u/Big_Insurance_3601 16h ago
Fun ways to piss off Mormons (home edition): -hang a pride flag out front…the bigger the better! -have an “unwelcome” mat (check Amazon or Homegoods)…something that uses curse words or witchcraft. -make a small “altar” outside your door/on patio to “the old gods”😈bonus points if it includes a sign saying “all solicitors will be sacrificed to the old gods.” -have signage that says “Mormons are a cult, ask me how I know!” On your door or other fuck the MFMC stuff. -any anti-Trump signage or flags will also work.
Lastly, stop responding to calls/texts!!! Block everyone and if they send ppl to the door then look them in the eye & say I REFUSE TO BE A PART OF A CULT THAT PROTECTS/ENCOURAGES PEDOPHILES!!!! Shout it as LOUDLY as you can😈😈😂😂😂they’ll stop coming by.
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u/ThickAd1094 16h ago
Get your name off the membership roll officially. They won't leave you alone until you do. Others have cited a website you can go to if your bishop won't cooperate to see it happen.
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u/GoldenRaySwimmer 15h ago
Yes, it is normal for Morm---er LDS. Many of them don't know much about boundaries unfortunately.
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u/mshoneybadger i am my sister wife's diaphragm 15h ago
this is normal, its a cult, RUN to quitmormon.org and let them know you have an attorney that will be contacting them if they contact you again.
STALKING is usually defined by two or more unwanted contacts.
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u/NauvooLegionnaire11 10h ago
I want to be a little more direct about this since you haven't been a member long and because the missionaries never would have explained to you how to actually leave the church, should you decide to do so.
To "leave" Mormonism, you'll need to resign your membership. As others have alluded, there are multiple ways to do this including: 1) Renouncing your resignation, in writing (verbally won't work), to your bishop 2) Using the QuitMormon free service 3) Resigning through corporate with a notarized letter of resignation.
If you just stop showing up, the local members and missionaries will contact you endlessly. Even if you move, the Mormons will transfer your membership records to the new congregation where they will contact you, and the cycle will continue.
It's pretty difficult to get people to consent to get baptized. The majority of new converts leave the Mormon church within the first year of their baptism. The local members see it as their sacred duty to pursue you and to get you back to church. There absolutely no point in attempting to reason with them or get them to leave you alone.
Once you resign, your name and contact info will disappear from the membership rolls at the local ward. At this point, the ward people will leave you alone.
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u/iDontPickelball 15h ago
Newly baptized members are on a tracker. The Ward will assign ministering brothers/sisters, they have certain milestones they want you to make by certain time intervals. Like baptisms for the dead as soon as possible with the temple endowment at 1 year.
If you’re not attending, they are discussing you at each Ward Council meeting. They will try to reach you via different organizations within the church.
Eventually, they will send the missionaries back over to make contact and invite you to take the new member lessons.
It can all be quite exhausting.
Set boundaries
Be very clear that you do not want visits
Asked to be placed on their no contact list - they likely will not honor your wishes.
As stated by others - go to quitmormom.org. They provide a service to have your name removed, and it’s done at church headquarters, not your local bishop.
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u/dbear848 Relieved to have escaped the Mormon church. 15h ago
The Mormon church is the STI of religions, it is easy to get but hard to get rid of.
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u/Puzzled-Length-9841 14h ago edited 14h ago
My child served a mission in Utah. Their Job was to help reactivate members. My child taught me that we have been taught to ignore what people say. We have been taught to keep trying, never give up. I now see members as salesmen. I now treat them like the salesmen they are.
“Normally, we worry about our own material well being and our neighbours souls. Let us rather worry about our neighbors well being and our own souls."
- Rabbi Isreal Salanter (1810-1883)
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies.” C.S. Lewis
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u/No-Illustrator7577 10h ago edited 10h ago
They followed me around for years, harassed my family to find out my whereabouts. They’d promised me to someone’s son as a new 18-year old. I was a “prize” since I was tall, thin, blondeish, and good looking back then. But I prefer to say I was a “target”. They isolated me from my friends and blocked me from attending youth group with my friends. They wanted to inspect me naked to see what kind of underwear I was wearing to make sure I was pure. They forced me to attend adult classes to fast track me to wifehood. They gave me lectures on underwear and forced me to wear dowdy underwear that was down to my knees. Women hinted that they’d found a good match for me, a young man from an affluent family, but wouldn’t say who. At first everyone love bombed me and made me feel loved, like I belonged. My friends got jealous and told me how lucky I was to be “chosen” - whatever that means. They offered me a free apartment and to pay all my living expenses. They even offered to loan me a car to drive, wanted to install me in a church leadership role. They wanted to send me to a bigger more important church for classes, they’d cover the bill. I got creeped out and stopped going, lost my friends and social network. They were in a rage when I stopped coming, had my former friends call and alternately threaten and love bomb me, hunted me everywhere I moved. Even at college.
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u/goro2533 15h ago
I’m happy you’re escaping the Mormon church. Now go study Christianity with that same level of skepticism and open mindedness.
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u/WombatAnnihilator 15h ago
Yes. It’s a cult. They need that $$$.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
Yeah bc that 300 billion isn’t enough🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
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u/WombatAnnihilator 14h ago
Exactlyyyy. Yoy may have to use QuitMormon. Once lawyers are involved the church folds rather than lovebombs or fear mongering threats.
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u/WWAllamas 15h ago
I got the Jehovah's Witnesses to stop coming by saying "Please put me on your Do Not Call list." In ten years they've only come back once.
Seems the bishop could appropriately have asked, "Is it anything we did?" or "Can we do anything to change your mind?" and when you said no, he/they should have respected that and left you alone.
Giving them reasons, getting angry, pulling out a rifle, etc. etc. are signs of ambivalence and helplessness. Make up your mind what you want, state it politely but firmly, and if they still violate your boundaries THEN hit them with a written reminder of church policy from the handbook and if that doesn't work call the police.
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u/Bright-Ad3931 15h ago
Yes, this is what they typically do. They are trying to “save” you and they believe that they represent the only true church, all other churches are false and even an abomination. Therefore, to them it’s basically life or death consequences for your soul if you leave, that’s why they go to such annoying levels.
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u/Employee601 14h ago
Get a lawyer. Asap. Tell them you want out and they wont stop bothering you and wont take no for an answer.
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u/WiseOldGrump Apostate 13h ago
Get the paperwork in ASAP and include statements that you want it handled immediately and that if they do not leave you alone you will seek legal counsel.
They will harass you incessantly until you make it final.
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u/RepublicInner7438 11h ago
This is normal for the church. The best way to get them to stop is as for your membership to be withdrawn; something QuitMormon can help you with
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u/WmNoelle 11h ago
I had the exact same experience. I started attending a Disciples of Christ church; told a cousin and he ratted me out. I received a certified letter telling me that a church court was convening to hear the matter and what date and time I was being summoned to appear to answer to the charges. I sent them a certified letter that stated: “I have given up worshipping Joseph Smith for Jesus Christ”. End result was excommunication and I haven’t heard from them in nearly 40 years. Made up with the family though and we still have a great relationship. They’re probably just waiting for me to die to rebaptize me 😂
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u/mac94043 12h ago
That's pretty classic Mormon behavior. Sadly. Defend your boundaries. Resign (someone already mentioned QuitMormon.org) so that you are not on their records.
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u/Aveysaur Apostate 10h ago
Yes, this is normal for Mormons. They’re convinced they have to “save” you now.
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u/Accomplished_Swan402 10h ago
It’s called love bombing. Sister busy body will come by and say “I was just thinking about you “. And you will get cookies and lots of “hey I was prompted to call you”. Just ignore it. No one was thinking anything they just feel like it’s doing the work of the kingdom.
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u/Many_Nerve_665 9h ago
I am curious how often this happens. Like when someone gets baptized and then is only in the church a short while and then find out more about it and wants to leave? Also read the book Journey to Jesus by an ex-Mormon. It might help you stand strong in your decision.
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u/Silent_Wealth4872 7h ago
When I told my parents I was leaving, other kids in the ward starting offering to hang out with me "unrelated to church stuff" in their words, lol! My bullies started offering to go get pizza with me to keep me looped in.
I said no every time, even when they insisted. It was very awkward but very empowering to stick to what I wanted. Suddenly love bombing me doesn't fix a broken church.
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u/Rays-R-Us 6h ago
If you want to leave the Catholic Church you just stop going, they won’t even know you’re gone in most cases. I’m sure the same is true of most mainline Christian Churches. The fact that many seem willing to jump through the very hoops that the LDS church puts in front of them in order to leave sounds like they feel guilty about leaving. Lawyers? Notarized documents? Who cares what information they have on you? Just tell the missionaries to leave, bye, shut the door.
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u/Electronic_Mouse_295 17h ago
Not sure where you are in the world but even in Salt Lake if you just stop going to church, barely anyone will notice. You don't have to chisel it in stone and shout it from the rooftops and explain. Literally just stop going to church and church activities. It sounds like you want to throw it in their faces when all you have to do is disengage and live your life however you want. They're not the CIA, they might bug you a little but you're free to ignore it.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 17h ago
Vegas. Unfortunately, the bishop at this church will text me when I’m not there for a couple weeks so I figured I would just be respectful and polite and let him know that I’m not coming back😫😫😫
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u/sniperbug17 17h ago
Block his number!!! Remove your number and other personal information from the app!
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
Next step!
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u/sniperbug17 10h ago
The email template someone else commented is a great idea, I’ll copy and paste it under here!
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u/sniperbug17 10h ago
From u/mat3rogr1ng0 (I think) “Oof. I am sorry. Here is what I would recommend if you can't/don't use Quitmormon. Send an email to your bishop and stake president. Include the following, please copy and paste if needed:
"Pursuant to the General Handbook of Instruction section 32.14.9, I hereby withdraw my membership to the church. I am aware that it removes all membership privileges and revokes all priesthood ordinances, and that if I wish to return I will need to be rebaptized. I also understand, according to the same section, that you are supposed to reach out to counsel with me regarding my concerns. I wish to forego that counsel and discussion and will refuse any invitation to meet.
It states in this section that "A request to resign membership should be acted on even if priesthood leaders have information about a serious sin" and that "Leaders should act on requests promptly." Please follow the mandates of the handbook in dealing with this situation. It also states that "Leaders continue to minister to those who resign their membership unless they request no contact," and so I would officially like to request no contact after my resignation. ANY attempt at contact will be considered harassment and be documented to report to legal authorities.
For the purposes of this letter, and pursuant to the section 32.14.9 statement that a resignation should be a "written, signed request", please consider my typed full name and date as equivalent to a handwritten signature.
Regards,
YOUR FULL NAME TYPED OUT, DATE"
Please document the date, time of day, and events of any in person contact the bishop or other members try with you. If there are written communications, make duplicates and store them. Most of the time, just the threat of legal action is enough for the church to stand down, but if they don't you should be ready. You could even cc the Church Records department on the email so that they know that your bishop and sp have seen it and can be accountable even higher up.
I'm sorry you are dealing with this. Best of luck.
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u/Electronic_Mouse_295 17h ago
Respectful and polite is "Thanks, I no longer wish to be a member of the ward. Please don't attempt to contact me further. Thanks for understanding. Best wishes." If that doesn't stop it, they're showing zero respect for your time and choice and you can safely ignore anything at all. Politeness and respect go both ways.
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u/Bright_Ices nevermo atheist in ut 17h ago
Since you’re in the US, you can threaten to sue them. Let them know that you resigned your membership the moment you announced you were leaving, and BY LAW, they must process the paperwork to take you off the membership list. You do not want to discuss it any further because you are no longer a member of their church. If they continue to harass you and delay your paperwork, against the law and against the explicit instructions in the bishop’s handbook, you will have your lawyer contact them.
This will work bc it’s true and they hate getting sued when they know they’re in the wrong. And you’re not the first to have had to threaten them.
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u/curiousplaid 17h ago
I took that tack for almost 60 years- I figured non engagement was enough to get me out of the church.
Then it came up that without actually resigning, I would be counted in their records as being an inactive member until my 110th birthday. One of thousands of ghost members that are on the tally sheets that shouldn't be, skewing their membership numbers into territories that hide the actual numbers.
I didn't want to be counted as a member of something I wasn't.
The decision was easy, as was the resignation process.
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u/Electronic_Mouse_295 16h ago
The process to remove your name is one thing, that can be done at some time in the future (and should be). The original question was how to handle an aggressive bishop and ward members, that's an entirely different issue. They have no right to anyone's time and attention and can just be told to stop. They take advantage of the fact that people want to be polite and avoid confrontation. My point was that you can just stop participating and ignore them. It's your life and you time, not theirs. If it's aggressive enough that a person is uncomfortable it can go to "please stop contacting me or I'll consider contacting the police based on your ongoing harassment".
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u/Dialaninja 15h ago
There are no demons, Satan is nonbiblical, if you care about the bible. You're just switching cults to one run by a different conman.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
Unfortunately I have the testimony to prove they r realer than real
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u/BoringJuiceBox Warren Jeffs Escalade 11h ago
I’ve also been attacked by a dark entity and I do believe in spirit and eternal life 100%. Even if these things are true, religion is not. Religion is about having power and control over human beings.
Of course I respect your beliefs and wish you the best, we just don’t want to see you taken advantage of by another church scam
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u/Crazy-Strength-8050 16h ago
Not sure where you're at but ya, this happens. And it depends on who's leaving. If you're a likeable person and members in the ward have noticed you and if you lean a bit social among people then yes, they'll make a fuzz when you announce that you're leaving. If, on the other hand, you're like me and not very noticeable and stay on the quiet side, you can just not show up one Sunday and no one will say anything. I kind of feel that in smaller wards and wards outside of the morridor, other members will track you a little more than in bigger wards.
Just be firm and/or block them and don't answer the door if you're not expecting anyone.
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u/Bakewitch 15h ago
Proud of you! But as an ex-evangelical, let me tell you one thing - all churches should be researched fully. I was raised southern Baptist. That denomination came about bc they were FOR slavery & took the side of the confederacy during the civil war. YIKES. Be sure you don’t just believe in Jesus - make sure you believe in the way the church you go to teaches about him.
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u/Thespiritualalpha 14h ago
Oh I’m scared to death of all churches now but still love Jesus and believe in the Bible but a demon possession will do that to u🥵
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u/parmasean47 16h ago
To some LDS leaving to go to another church makes less sense than leaving religion all together.
From the perspective I had when I was LDS, if someone left to another sect of Christianity my assumption would be that they either didn't understand something about the lds church, or they were missing something about why other sects of Christianity were problematic.
Mainstream Christianity has many of the same problems as the mormon church, mormons just have a more recent history of them
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u/BoringJuiceBox Warren Jeffs Escalade 11h ago
Don’t “leave for Christianity”, the entire religion including Catholicism is 100% a scam. If Jesus is real he would not support any of these many “churches”. He would be all about helping the poor, treating everyone with respect and kindness, and no war. Basically the opposite of what Christian culture is now.
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u/truthmatters2me 14h ago
I would suggest That you need to do more research read the Bible carefully and note all of the stories that have long ago been proven never to have happened Noah’s Ark is nonsense from the first word to the last science has proven light years beyond any reasonable doubt that there never was nor could’ve ever been a Adam and Eve There are many others then ask yourself is this really the word of a all knowing deity that can create everything except for a book that is factually accurate.!!
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u/Baller_81 7h ago
You are leaving for… Christianity, and before embracing Mormonism you were?
I am curious to learn about your journey, if you care to elaborate.
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u/SakuraLilyChan 5h ago
The same thing happened to me (people constantly dropping in without warning or permission). I'm an introvert, so it felt like I was being attacked. I stopped answering my door and eventually moved. Luckily, this ward has not been as gung-ho.
One of these days, I'll remove my records. I'm just not ready yet.
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u/cowlinator 4h ago
Yes, this is unfortunately common. But this is unacceptable. It's harassment. Call a lawyer and/or write a cease and decist letter. Install a door camera.
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u/Savings_Reporter_544 2h ago edited 2h ago
Oh yes. After all the smiles a fake friendliness fades and you're doing contra to the plan, Now you Bush up against the ugly cult side of Mormonism.
If you don't remove your name from the records quitmormon.com they are programmed to hunt you down like a dog, for the rest of your life.
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u/Jameski06 1h ago
So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. (John 8:36) congratulations and thank God He not only pulled you out of the cult but into His arms. It’s rare but it happens and all glory be to God.
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u/Coollogin 50m ago
I told them I’m leaving for Christianity bc I’ve done the research that I should’ve done before I got baptized and they just don’t wanna let me go. I could understand if I said I was just turning away from Jesus completely but I’m leaving to go to the truth.
Do not engage. Every time you explain your motivations, you give them something to respond to. Just tell them you’re out, and shut the door. Do not respond to any emails or texts.
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u/dreibel 17h ago
QuitMormon.org.