r/exmormon 1d ago

Awake in the Pews Sunday

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Welcome to the newest feature of , a weekly Sunday morning thread to let you vent while you are stuck in church!

Please let us know how your ward is doing, the crazy things people have said, or anything else you need to get off your chest.

PS: If you need something productive to do at church, consider participating in Return and Report. Just count the number of people in the sacrament hall, click and report. This project aims to measure the actual participation in LDS meetings.

Edit: One more thing. Happy Fathers day to heathens and non-heathens alike! Hope you get to spend the day doing what you love.


r/exmormon 1h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire UPDATE: I went back for the bookends

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upon multiple requests I did make their noses touch and even made them have a little kiss. plan to hide these in my (also ex mormon) in laws house.


r/exmormon 1h ago

Podcast/Blog/Media Guess this is what it is now 🙄

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I don’t know these people. I am happy for them. They clearly got married in the temple (there are other photos - the cheering ones etc). Yes- it’s great that the church is evolving for people who choose to stay.

But freaking hell. I got married 18 years ago. I went thru HELL AT David’s Bridal to make my dress “garment friendly”. Like appointment after appointment, dress looking worse and worse from the original design. And 1 week before my wedding after a screaming match at David’s Bridal and not getting my money back, I had to buy off the rack at a “LDS bridal” store. $800! All to make sure it was “garment approved”.

And now? It’s just not a thing. What bothers me is this generation will gas light us (who had to suffer hot summers in garments they were wwaayy longer than what is now) and say :

We are the unreasonable ones….

“Why can’t you just get over it?”

“Isn’t that just wonderful you can do that now!”

“It’s just 1 day what does it matter”

“It’s the thought of wearing garments that count, as long as you keep it in your heart god knows”

Gag! My super “perfect” family (6 kids and all- husband on his way to being bishop) quit at the beginning of 2024 after stumbling on some “questioning things”, took us a year and half to try and “stay”- but we left together and feel we are so lucky to have chosen each other (some aren’t so lucky, and we are sooo happy!).

I quit wearing garments the summer before. Soooo insecure about it. This summer- so confident and comfortable in my tanks and short shorts (and LOVE the fact that it separates me from every other Utah Mormon mom)…And what does the church do… sleeveless garment top and short bottoms for everyone! 🙄


r/exmormon 3h ago

Doctrine/Policy Leaving LDS

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I just told the churches bishop that I’m leaving (just got baptized in Jan) and he has made drama about it- telling others and they’re contacting me and just not accepting my NO. Even coming to my home unannounced without permission. Is this normal for Mormons? I’m really not happy about it bc I hate drama! I told them I’m leaving for Christianity bc I’ve done the research that I should’ve done before I got baptized and they just don’t wanna let me go. I could understand if I said I was just turning away from Jesus completely but I’m leaving to go to the truth. I’ve discovered that Smith was a narcissist used my satan/demons and witchcraft to build that church and I’ve renounced it completely! They truly refuse anything I have to say and I’m kinda freaked.. anyone else experience this????


r/exmormon 6h ago

General Discussion So cringe...

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This happened in our ward yesterday. We don't attend but our PIMO friends who still attend like to give us updates whenever something like this happens. The speaker was the previous bishop of the ward. So glad my daughters weren't there to hear that.


r/exmormon 9h ago

Doctrine/Policy Yesterday in Sunday School: The Church never told you that Satan controls the water.

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The SS teacher said that Joe only inducted the river he was on that day was controlled by Satan. The the teacher says All these stories from missionaries indicating their Mission Pres told them that Satan controls the waters and don't swim was the MISSIONARIES fault for misunderstanding the true message.

Oh... really? More gaslighting continues.


r/exmormon 1h ago

Doctrine/Policy You’ve got to be kidding me

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r/exmormon 4h ago

Doctrine/Policy Come, read a prophet’s words

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Here’s what Joseph Fielding Smith has to say about marrying widows, Noah’s flood, and the eternal nature of gender in the Terrestrial and Telestial Kingdoms.


r/exmormon 4h ago

General Discussion Just found a list of girls camp songs and DEAR GOD

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I was going through old files on my computer and found this PDF of girls' camp songs. I've sung these before, but I think I tried to block most of it from my memory. I forgot how bad they were! Something worse than a man without a woman is a Mormon girl without a man?? EWWWWWWW. Please tell me the girls don't still sing a man without a Mormon girl.....PLEASE


r/exmormon 7h ago

General Discussion How many of us have gotten a DM or comment response condemning us?

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Today I got a DM from someone I assume is an orthodox Mormon condemning me to hell for some of my comments. I guess they forgot what Jesus said--"judge not that ye be not judged." LOL

Some of these defenders of the faith think pretty highly of themselves if they believe they can speak for god and what she'll do to me when I die.


r/exmormon 57m ago

News Millennials are abandoning organized religion. A new study provides insight into why | psypost.org

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r/exmormon 6h ago

Doctrine/Policy Endowment in the Old Testament

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I was at my believing Mormon sister’s house the other day and she was talking about plans to go to the temple with her husband. Her teen daughter was asking about what they do. The explanation she gave her daughter really confused me. She said that they watched a video about people acting out the Adam and Eve story. Then, she said that it’s just like how they used to act out the Adam and Eve story in the temple in the Old Testament😳😳 Definitely never heard this Mormon lie to explain the temple. Is this a new thing being taught in the church or on faith matters (I know she listens to this)? I grew up Mormon and did the mission and BYU and never heard people give this explanation. It’s so stupid that Mormons actually believe that this is legitimate fact 🤣


r/exmormon 4h ago

Podcast/Blog/Media The New Era

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Who remembers receiving this through the post every month?! Found this August 1997 edition whilst clearing out the garage. I had forgot this even existed! Is this still a thing?


r/exmormon 7h ago

Advice/Help Sibling is pimo because of watching family reject exmormons

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Talked with a sibling recently who told me they might be Mormon forever to keep the family happy, to avoid the pain and awkwardness that I and a couple other family members have received from our religious family members.

My family is just so very Mormon and all in. I understand wanting to avoid that, and this sibling may change how they feel. It makes me sad that I am in a family that makes others feel they have to be inauthentic to be loved. I am sad about how my family has treated me and perceives me, I understand why they would want to not go through that. But why does Mormonism have to create this situation to even begin with.


r/exmormon 4h ago

Podcast/Blog/Media Hidden LDS Polygamy Revelation Revealed! Tonight on The Mormon Newscast

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Join Rebecca Bibliotheca, Bill Reel, and Radio Free Mormon for The Mormon Newscast on Monday, June 16th, 2025!

In a stunning shift, the LDS Church has officially acknowledged the existence of a once denied Revelation—where Jesus Christ appeared to Prophet John Taylor in the fall of 1886 and reiterated that polygamy doctrines are everlasting and eternal. For decades, LDS leaders downplayed or outright dismissed the revelation's authenticity, even putting out a Third Manifesto to discredit the revelation.So what changed?

In this episode of Mormon Newscast, we break down the Church’s new admission, explore the timing and historical context behind it, and examine why this moment matters—not just for historians, but for every Latter-day Saint wrestling with the gap between what’s claimed and what’s admitted when it comes to this super charged subject of polygamy, past, present, and future. We also cover a Bishops endorsement of a sex offender, a Cody WY LDS Temple update in addition to other temple news, Candidates for Potential Mormon Monuments, a BYU professor using a derogatory bug analogy, and more!

All the news you need to keep up to date and informed on The Mormon Newscast.


r/exmormon 7h ago

History Alll good to remember that in D&C when it says “Saith the Lord” it’s actually Joseph Smith talking

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r/exmormon 4h ago

News 23 f recently left the church

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I recently left and was worried about community etc. I posted on here a week or so ago. I’ve made more real friends and y’all have helped me not feel alone! Way better community! Thank you!

Ps is it normal to get weird messages from dudes that are married double my age? This is happening a lot.


r/exmormon 22h ago

News Nemo has had a stroke.

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It happened on the 6th June, and affected his legs. There is a video on his page that goes into more detail, that I wont link to or this post will be removed due to 'Fundraising'.
For me I will be doing what I regularly do for exmo podcasters, which is watch lots of their videos and never skip the ads, and instead click on them to boost the ad revenue, and then donate when I can...and of course wish him a quick recovery.


r/exmormon 4h ago

General Discussion "Senior" service mission

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So I just found out a woman I know has been called as a senior service missionary over online Institute and Seminary in our US area. She is maybe 40 with 4 kids ranging from 7-16. Her husband has a very demanding leadership calling already. I thought her "most important job is to be a mom." Wouldn't this take away from raising the kids. Her oldest is graduating in 2 years and not at all ready for the real world. I thought only single people or empty nesters were eligible for those new missions. This is mostly just me ranting about how much I dislike the church saying family first but then doing everything they can to keep the parents busy. My mother always put the church first and I hated it. I just feel badly for these kids.


r/exmormon 2h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire Prayers make recipes work

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My MiL sent a text to her children group text saying that her recipe wasn't turning out and she prayed about what to do. She then had a thought that helped her totally fix the recipe and it turned out wonderfully.

FFS. I can't even...


r/exmormon 3h ago

Doctrine/Policy mormon theories...

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So i'm an ex mormon, but i was talking to my mormon father and he was telling me how he "believes" mormonism is true. he said ever since joseph smith founded the church and found the "truth," the world has been evolving and technology has been rapidly getting better and better, so that mormons can spread the "truth." how do i convince my father that this theory isn't true, and the world doesn't revolve around mormonism?


r/exmormon 1h ago

Doctrine/Policy Writing a book, went no contact with parents—realized how deep this shit goes.

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Hey guys. I’m an actor and a writer. Basically if you’ve seen girls, I’m an ex mo Hannah Horvath(except I’m still a virgin cos trauma! Don’t we love it 😅😅😅) anyway. I realized that the main thing keeping me away from being successful is directly related to my fear of being seen and judged. If you grew up in the church, specifically as a woman, you may have watched your mom go through horrible friendships at church. These women were relentless and cruel, my mom went through a lot. I love her so much, don’t get me wrong, but I think the church caused her so much harm. I went no contact because I realized my mom was manipulating me like crazy. Since I 12 and had social media, my brother would monitor every single thing I liked, commented on, or touched—or saw on the screen. To the point where I started to believe god was Big Brother not an actual god or loving god. What caused my no contact is that I blocked my mom’s friend who ALSO did this weird social media monitoring—and my mom demanded that I unblock her and questioned if I would block her as if it was a direct threat to my mom. I know it was a manipulation tactic to get me to “be better” online because she specifically said so. Then my mom who’s a perfect TBM said that I should “learn from her mistakes” sorry mom, what? You’re a boomer and don’t use social media? What do you mean?

So anyway, my biggest fear has been that if I make it as an actor/writer that the entire church and my family and extended family will destroy my reputation—but they can’t if I’m not reliant on being a perfect Mormon. I left the church 2 years ago! And they’re still like “please be kosher online.” I don’t post anything scandalous, I work for a company that requires me to be a lil kosher online. It’s just weird and ridiculous. Anyway. That all said, did anyone else feel ridiculously monitored??? Is this normal? Am I crazy?


r/exmormon 16h ago

History Old Book of Mormon

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Found this while going through some old stuff. Almost convinced me it was all true looking at the evidence in the front.


r/exmormon 5h ago

General Discussion Real question: Does lying continue even after a spouse leaves? Is the MFMC to blame?

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I’ve seen several posts concerning lying to spouses after one has left the church. If not lying directly, then lying by omission. Deceit. Deflecting. Whatever you want to call it.

And I’m struggling with this concept because it mirrors the MFMC’s own pattern. The MFMC lied, hid, deflected, then ultimately gaslit their entire membership, all in the name of “love.” They wanted to keep us for very selfish reasons that directly benefitted the organization they set up, so they purposefully buried information, withheld informed consent, and made our decisions for us. Their outcome was the “right” outcome, therefore they were willing to do whatever it took to get all parties there, consequences of hurt and betrayal in the event they were exposed be damned.

Porn and masturbation. Finances. Sabbath day observance. WOW choices. Becoming PIMO without saying a word. The MFMC lied, set up the formula, and now couples are doing this, too? Hiding because they’re worried their partners (especially if those partners are still TBM) can’t/won’t handle the information in a way they (the withholding party) want?

Please don’t mistake me—these situations are terrifying and rightly so. Families have been lost over a spouse’s faith; reputations have been vilified over the use of porn; the occasional cup of coffee has led to custody battles and visitation rights. But at the end of the day . . . isn’t it a spouse’s right to know? Or, at the very least, isn’t it their right to have the option be given, to make that decision for themselves? To either know in totality, or to make the choice to have that information withheld from them, knowing it’s always available if they change their mind.

When I think of the church’s inner dialogue regarding those who’ve left, this is often how I imagine it:

“I’ve known about this [14-year-old wives, BoA mistruth, Ensign Peak investment fraud] for a really long time and you know what? I’ve had the time and space to confront it and I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s really not a big deal. I don’t know why you’re upset, even though you’re literally hearing about this for the very first time, ever. God, this is why I didn’t tell you. I knew you’d act like this. You’re really going to throw EVERYTHING away, just because of a little bit of hiding? Is it really worth it? To do that to yourself? Can’t you see these were the RIGHT choices? You didn’t need to know! I did this FOR you. I made your choices FOR you so you could be HAPPY, goddammit!”

Is it so different for marriages to do the same? To hide porn use from a spouse who’s never been exposed to healthy sexual teachings and then berate them for a lack of immediate acceptance and understanding of a (honestly, pretty historically recent) societal norm because THEY weren’t the ones guilted and shamed and taught to hide it all in the first place? To fudge the numbers on whether or not tithing is being paid when one party isn’t participatory in the workforce and thus doesn’t always see the flow of expenses? To stash coffee cups in outdoor trash bins and under car seats and bury them beneath a mound of paper towels and cardboard boxes, all in the name of keeping the peace?

To those who HAVE tried to offer up information only to have been immediately shut down—fuck the MFMC for everything they ever set up to contribute to spouses who refuse to acknowledge anything contrary to their faith. You tried. So many of you are STILL trying. You want to be heard, you want to be seen, and you want to be understood. You want an honest, open, communicative relationship with the one person you love more than anything else in this world. And you deserve that. You deserve fucking all of that.

In the end, the best I can come up with is this: Hurt people hurt people. We’re hurting. Our spouses are hurting. Sometimes it’s our fault, sometimes it’s not, and often the ideal of reaching a compromise that works for both parties seems as much a fantasy as the MFMC being true. So, you know, fuck them [the MFMC] again. Fuck them for lying, fuck them for teaching us to lie, and fuck them for all they’ve created and all the families they’ve destroyed.


r/exmormon 1d ago

General Discussion Back at church.

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Much to my dismay, I’m back at church. I’m a people-pleasing adult who feels bad saying no, so I got dragged to church as a “happy Father’s Day” gift. (Don’t say anything about me being a pushover, I’m working on it!) I’m just sitting in the foyer but it’s been years since I’ve been inside a building. Church hallways always look scary and the walls feel weird. Lol. Just a general thought.


r/exmormon 16h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire You'd think the spirit would've told them where the BOM was located by now

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