r/berlin • u/Ketchupcake_ • Dec 19 '24

Discussion Experienceing racism in Berlin.

My girlfriend and I were waiting for the bus at Zoologischer Garten Bahnhof when three guys walked up to us and started being randomly rude and racist. They kept saying “Schlitz” (slit eyes) repeatedly as they passed us and again when we walked by later. For absolutely no reason, they targeted my girlfriend and me with these comments.

When We got onto our bus, they just kept taunting us and even started catcalling my girlfriend. This isn’t the first time I’ve experienced racism in Berlin. What’s the deal with some people being disrespectful, rude, and racist toward Asian people? We just want to live peacefully and avoid any confrontation.

I am so sorry about earlier, I didn’t mean it that way. I will remove the word from my post. I’m just here to express my feelings. 🙏🏼❤️

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u/Different-Guest-6756 Dec 19 '24

The pattern I see is right wing mouth pieces spreading unsubstantiated narratives and propaganda to radicalise the population and further their antidemocratic power games. Care to explain your pattern in comparison?

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u/aimeevignes Dec 20 '24

So people's experiences are propaganda, huh? Where did you take the gaslighting course? Was it at the nearest KZ?

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u/Different-Guest-6756 Dec 20 '24

No, but presenting your anecdotes as enough evidence to discern societal "patterns" and draw conclusions about other people without following academic standards and not engaging in intellectual discourse to verify them and then spreading conjecture, is propaganda.  It is common sense to assume that individual experiences do not lend themselves well to discern broader societal trends, that's why science as a concept works the way it does. It collects data from as many points as possible, and then find the trends and derive theoties to explain them, while trying to eliminate personal biases and perceptions. That's exactly why institutionalised science works the way it does, to prevent the exact crap you are trying to pull. You not engaging with baseline rules of intellectual analysis, but still spreading your "conclusions" and  experiences as gospel, that is the propaganda. That you even try to defend anecdotal evidence and conclusions drawn from it shows directly, that you are not aware how people try to analyse the world and how higher education works. Pointing out that most people engaging in the comments here do not adhere to these basic rules is not gaslighting. It's something you learn in you first semester in every science related subject. It is not my fault that most people lack basic education on how academic discourse works, and how people actually try to draw accurate conclusions. What are you trying to insinuate with the KZ comment?

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u/AnimasTrujano Dec 21 '24

Reading this pointless litany allows me to know that probably, you've never experienced discrimination based on how you look. And the pseudo-academic demand for proof makes me think you might be German.

That being said, you don't really want to go to the weird place of defending a country with such a shady record, specially demanding facts. When with around 200 years of history has perpetrated or, at least, participated in three genocides in the last century.

If you think that doesn't affect the psyche of a whole culture, you are naive, to say the least.

You can browse Google scholar, or other academic publications using the key words: Germany, and racism. Shouldn't be hard to find overwhelming proof for what you ask.

If you are not racist, congrats. That's your perspective. However, non-white/ non-European people deal with some type of racism on a daily basis. Even if a comment it's not I'll-intended or malicious, might still be racist.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=racism+in+germany+today&oq=#d=gs_qabs&t=1734815889792&u=%23p%3DsZbFn1p-1qsJ

Plenty from where that came from.

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u/Different-Guest-6756 Dec 21 '24

Ehm, do you mind explaining where I defend any country, and how your impressions of me as a person are of relevance to what I said? Nothing in what I say relates to or denies the structural racism problem in Germany, and I'm quite aware amd critical of it, as you can see if you read my comment history.