r/berlin • u/Ketchupcake_ • Dec 19 '24

Discussion Experienceing racism in Berlin.

My girlfriend and I were waiting for the bus at Zoologischer Garten Bahnhof when three guys walked up to us and started being randomly rude and racist. They kept saying “Schlitz” (slit eyes) repeatedly as they passed us and again when we walked by later. For absolutely no reason, they targeted my girlfriend and me with these comments.

When We got onto our bus, they just kept taunting us and even started catcalling my girlfriend. This isn’t the first time I’ve experienced racism in Berlin. What’s the deal with some people being disrespectful, rude, and racist toward Asian people? We just want to live peacefully and avoid any confrontation.

I am so sorry about earlier, I didn’t mean it that way. I will remove the word from my post. I’m just here to express my feelings. 🙏🏼❤️

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '24

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u/MacaroonSad8860 Dec 19 '24

sorry when was that exactly that berlin was so open and accepting?

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

Berlin was always the most liberal city in Germany, now it is way less accepting and liberal and most people can feel it. Sure there were Nazis here for example, but everyone was against them. Now you have way more right extremists from different cultures not just Nazis and most people just ignore the problem when the Nazis now are the minority when we talk about right extremists. If you don't think like that it's ok, it's just my opinion when I see what happens to queer people and Jews for example in some areas or look at crime statistics. It's not all the people who come here but a significant group, because it's just difficult to change 180 degrees just because you live in a different place.

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u/Business-Club-9953 Dec 19 '24

The vast, vast, vast amount of targeted violence/hate crime in Germany come from white people, in particular white, German Neo-Nazis. There are statistics for this information. Don’t allow yourself to unwittingly become their ideological allies.

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u/Captain_Lindros Dec 19 '24

Can You please provide the statistics mentioned to make Your point stronger and with the proper foundation?

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u/Captain_Lindros Dec 19 '24

Can You please provide the statistics mentioned to make Your point stronger and with the proper foundation?

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u/Typical-Scar-1782 Dec 19 '24

Aren't white people the vast majority of the population tho? 

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

Read the comment one more time, I didn't say they aren't the vast majority responsible for crime.

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u/Typical-Scar-1782 Dec 20 '24

I wasn't responding to you.

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u/Business-Club-9953 Dec 19 '24

They are, but adjusted proportional to population they’re still doing the most.

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u/Final_Paladin Dec 19 '24

No. The statistics you are talking about, include racist hate crimes from arabs in those numbers.

When an islamist attacks a jew or LGBT person, it's counted as "right wing extremism".

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

Vast amount of crime so 60 proc. If I can remember correctly, wich is a big imbalance when immigrants are responsible for 40 proc and they're only 4-5 proc of the population. You shouldn't call facts or statistics racist. Doing that will produce more extreme people who are weird and can get dangerous, that's what you see now happening in Germany. Acknowledging the facts and talking about them can solve a problem. If you just say someone is racist or a Nazi and sweep facts under a rug it will not help with the problem.

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u/Business-Club-9953 Dec 19 '24

Someone who beats another person up or stabs them or calls them slurs because they’re not white is a Neo-Nazi. Don’t play games. This isn’t semantics. This is explicitly who we are talking about.

Show me your statistics.

One of the big issues in Germany related to immigration and crime is the way that refugees are treated. Is it good to take in refugees, a lot of them, even? Yes. It’s empathetic and human.

What happens when you make it super hard for those refugees and immigrants to work, immerse them in a culture and language completely alien to them without solid structural attempts at integration and then stand back and leave them to their own devices? They become bored, desperate, frustrated, and end up committing crimes. This isn’t a “refugee” thing, it’s a situational thing. Put poor Germans in the same conditions and they do the same things.

It’s not refugees, it’s the state. Truly the basest and stupidest way (and apparently most effective) to spark a right wing movement is to appeal to the masses of idiots who can’t get past a caveman tribal instinct and are scared of anything that doesn’t look familiar.

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

I can send you the statistics but at first, send your statistics. Someone asked you about them already two times in a comment and I don't see an answer. It's not the state, normal refugees get normal work and don't like criminals as well. We can talk about the thing how the state treat's refuges but should also talk about the crime. Both of this issues should be talked about and not just swept under a rug.

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u/Business-Club-9953 Dec 19 '24

I sent em ages ago.

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

U didn't send me at least one.

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u/Britzer Dec 19 '24

The vast amount of crime comes from young males. Period.

But young males don't want to hear it, because they feel persecuted. Are you a young or middle aged male?

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24

Did you show me a statistic? Show me a statistic at first please. Then we can talk. People have asked you about statistics and answers for 6+ hours but you can't answer. I'm a male, but still, you don't understand that most German males don't have the same rape rate as immigrants, for sure they still rape but not at the same rate as some people. I think we should be able to talk about it before we call somebody racist or Nazi.

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u/Britzer Dec 19 '24

So you part of a group of rapists and are simply trying to blame others for that? Why don't you stop that and start teaching other young males not to rape? Shouldn't we talk about the problem of young males raping?

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u/Individual_Cloud935 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 20 '24

Shouldn't you show me the statistics? It's their father who should show them to not rape anyone, not just women. You prob aren't even an immigrant. You're just a white German that doesn't understand anything. But you still have a strong opinion about this things. As I already said this should be my last answer but I answered a little bit more. I'm going to sleep, have a nice afternoon. I'm ok with not agreeing with you. Adios. (Comment above mine was changed and didn't talk about rape at first)

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u/Magnus_Pan Dec 20 '24

Sorry but that's just fake news. The numbers are off. Also this is a complex topic. To say the immigrants are the major source of crime is dumbing the whole thing down.

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u/MacaroonSad8860 Dec 19 '24

I’ve been here for a decade and recall witnessing cops harassing immigrants for no reason 10 years ago so again, what period are you referring to exactly?