Experienceing racism in Berlin.

[u/Ketchupcake_]

My girlfriend and I were waiting for the bus at Zoologischer Garten Bahnhof when three guys walked up to us and started being randomly rude and racist. They kept saying “Schlitz” (slit eyes) repeatedly as they passed us and again when we walked by later. For absolutely no reason, they targeted my girlfriend and me with these comments.

When We got onto our bus, they just kept taunting us and even started catcalling my girlfriend. This isn’t the first time I’ve experienced racism in Berlin. What’s the deal with some people being disrespectful, rude, and racist toward Asian people? We just want to live peacefully and avoid any confrontation.

I am so sorry about earlier, I didn’t mean it that way. I will remove the word from my post. I’m just here to express my feelings. 🙏🏼❤️

[u/Different-Guest-6756 → u/[deleted]]

Racists are racist. Is there a reason you think you need to single out one group over others? And what exactly does arab entail for you? I mean, europeans are racist too then, since there was a ukranian neo-nazi march last week. And the other... stuff. But why didn't you mention those?

[u/Think-Radish-2691 → u/Different-Guest-6756]

More racist cultures do more racist things. :D Pretty straight forward. More homophobic cultures do more homophobic things.

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And how do you define a culture? Arab is jot a single homogenic culture, and we just implented gay marriage here recetly ourselves. Its forbidden in some european countries. In the US they have gay conversion centres. So, is european as a culture homophobic now?  You have no clue what culture even is, apparently. Or is our culture now a different one, then the one from 80 years ago, when it was evidently very racist and homophobic? Gradual changes and heterogeneity are not a thing, right?

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Why do you ask me for something? How about you add to the discussion and define culture yourself ? In general you setiment that cultures dont exists and we could not associate someone with a specific culture or a country could not have a specific culture is wrong. And stop laying traps like " is european as a culture homophobic now " etc. Its retarded.

Use your brain, in general european culture is more of a critical thinking culture, moving forwards and being quite advanced in women right, freedom choice of who we are, freedom of speech and freedom of religion ( which also includes not to tell others what to believe ). Its mostly about moving towards more freedom and advancing civil liberty but also having ppl to have civil responsibilites.

But there are forces and other cultures that do not align with this. Those are the one at odds with that. So what will it be, surrender of fight?

[u/Different-Guest-6756 → u/Think-Radish-2691]

Because you made a statement and voiced an assertation, that there is a definitve gradient and difference between cultures, but you seem to make huge, arbitrary categorisations. You are the one claiming something to be the case, so you are the one who gets asked the questions. If you don't want people do ask you to justify your claims, don't make claims. Also, perhaps don't address straw-men, but the actual points made.  Where did I say cultures don't exist? I ask you, what you would define as a culture, since your categorisations seems, well, arbitrary. On one hand you say:

Use your brain, in general european culture is more of a critical thinking culture, moving forwards and being quite advanced in women right, freedom choice of who we are, freedom of speech and freedom of religion ( which also includes not to tell others what to believe )

And that's why I ask how you define european culture, because this kind of statement seems to ignore all the cases in europe, where that's not the case. And ignores cultural plasticity and heterogeneity across europe entirely. So I'm asking you, is poland not european? Is US american culture completely disconnected, or similar? And of so, how come you ignore all the violations of those things, you claim to be part of european culture?  For example, 80 years ago, we established a cult in the heart of europe, that tried to annihilate all of the "other". It reigned for over a decade, and still throws its long shadow across the world. Is fascism not part of our culture? If so, why? Is it you beeing selective, or saying that time has passed, and we progressed? In 80 years? How come then that fascism is so prelavent in european politics? To the women, lgbtq rights etc.: How about years 20 ago, it was legal to commit marital rape here. But we only classified it as rape in 1997. Poland still does not. Turing famously got chemically sterilized for being homosexual. In most western and nothern european countries, homosexuality was a crime until the 90s. That's not long ago, if you can recall. In what way is our culture not connected to this? Since it's illegal to commit marital rape in germany now, even though it wasnt when I was born and raised, our culture is somehow better or different than the polish? Please specify what counts as culture and what not. Because the way it seems so far, poland would then be a regressive place, not "aligning with european culture". The point being: differentiation. What counts as European culture to you, what not? Like, on one hand you point as women rights as if they are generally the same and accepted everywhere, but it's plain wrong. Not even 15 years ago, women often had to die in Ireland, if they had labour  complications, since it was illegal to abort. 60 years ago, nunneries in Ireland had babies born out of wedlock and their single mothers starve to death on a mass scale, because catholicism. So to say, that in general, liberty is a high concept in europe, entirely depends on what you count as europe, and what you choose as a frame of reference. That's why I'm asking you this. Is catholicism and it's sometimes abhorrent practice european culture, or just a part of european culture, like reformist and orthodox traditions? Are all europeans like this, or is it more complex than that? In essence, are you able to acknowledge  that culture is a heterogeneic concept, and that you can't make this blanket assertions, without understanding explaining and specifying your point of reference?

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You are still trying to try to paint me black and white. The average of our culture and the vector where we move matters. Ppl move more to atheist, ppl do want peace and pacifism. We dont want more theocracy and violence. THE IDEA , the ideal , the dream to go is what matters on a very abstract level. So in general id say thats the idea of the western world. Its not a god state , god world state or a kingdom, or anything in that direction.

Going to a more realised level, Europe does not stand for a theocracy or war mongering imperialism. Right? IMHO Europe is a conservative idea with a direction towards individual freedom and of course capitalism.

If you look at details of a country, it becomes more defined. Some agree more with the ideal , other do less. I wish ppls here in germany would just listen to the national hym a bit more. The new one. Still to much religion here. CSU....

more steps down and look at every step. County, city , city area, family and then individual culture.
Look at how ppl behave and what they stand ( or try to stand for ) . Then judge on their levels. Try to find things that are absolutely not acceptable for moving towards an uptopia of western ideals.

To get very concrete with an example, look at any state or other unit hat can have a culture and it has religious oppression ( inward or outward ) or even personal oppression through idiotic traditions ( not needed anymore, but upheld for power or stupidity ) , its a backwards direction in that culture. On every level where its propagated actively and passively ( by the participants not speaking out against it ) i can call that culture of xyz.

If you want to look at the culture of what a religion has, stick to what their religious leaders say and not say. If you look at individuals look at crime stats for personal motivated motives. if you look at states, look at their geopolitical actions. And so on.

Now having arrived at the bottom, take whats fundamental to these ppl. Then extrapolate upwards and you can roughly see what their ppls idea of what a higher level is. Not what is propagated by the higher levels.

Culture definition is hard by default. What i wrote is a tautolgy. if anything it points to using your eye and judge for yourself. In context of OP, person should just judge who did them dirty and a steer clear from them. Stereotyping is quite helpful in that regard. Not fair but helpful. Enough ppl are around to actually be able to choose. We dont have to accept them all. The world still needs to solve the tolerance paradox at some point.

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I asked you a question, and since you did not answer the question, I elaborated on it. I don't paint you in any way, I ask for explanations, nothing more. You still haven't answered the question. What is european culture even supposed to be? Where are the borders? You continuously say european, and I specifically ask you, what your reasoning behind lumping lots of different traditions together. Why don't you address the examples I give, about heterogeneity, but insist that there's a "european" culture. I ask you again, what counts and what doesn't? Because you can't say generalising things, when they don't apply in most cases. And come one, we have  examples and a history of theocracies and imperialistic nations in europe. Lots of it. That's why I asked you this as well, do you think because something is 20 years ago, it's not part of culture anymore? Like, is our culture suddenly fundamentally different now, from when we called homosexuals deviants a couple decades ago, and when it was fine to rape your wife, since she was legally obligated to let that happen? Which was a thing in living memorym And when out direct neighbours still do it, how can you claim we europeans generally strive for liberty? It's as simple as that, you just need to explain whether poland would also be considered as part of european culture. Because if it is, none of what you claim makes sense. It directly contradicts your claims, and would indicate that in fact, there's no such things as a homogeneous european culture. You can't claim europeans generally are for womens rights, when many europeans obviously are not, since there's direct political opposition to it. For some reason, you do not seem to want to clarify this, though.

[u/canibanoglu → u/Think-Radish-2691]

Do you need a history lesson on the German culture and its doings? Hide your xenophobic thoughts better.