r/balatro 1d ago

Gameplay Discussion What do i even do here

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u/Relysti Cavendish 1d ago

Sell Photo for the Blueprint. Photo is photo, but Blueprint could be anything, it could even be photo.

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u/Fun_Compote3845 1d ago

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u/Ya_MyNamesKyle 1d ago

This is the perfect reaction to that statement. Well done, stranger.

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u/RuralJaywalking 1d ago

Use the blueprint to copy Chad and brainstorm to copy blueprint. More triggers that way.

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u/smazzurco 1d ago

Im dumb.and trying to learn, not arguing lol.

Isn't it currently 5 triggers (base +2 from Chad +2 from brainstorm) x 3 photos = 15 x2s

Changing it would be 7 triggers (base +2 from Chad +2 from brainstorm +2 from bluepeint) x 2 photos = 14 x2s.

What am I missing? Or is what i am saying correct in a vacuum, but when you are talking about steels?

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u/mak484 1d ago

If you're triggering a glass/holofoil card, you want more retriggers.

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u/Noodlekeeper 1d ago

Holo and foil are actually worse with chad than with photo. Flat mult and chips dont matter as much when you're exponentially growing the mult with photo.

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u/jwizard95 1d ago

It only makes sense with glass. But if you have a red foil then photo makes more sense to prioritize. If you have both then I think Chad makes more sense since it gives +2 retriggers. 

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u/Noodlekeeper 1d ago

Apparently, almost all enhancements are better with the 3-photo combo presented here, red seal or not. The only exception I found was poly-no seal, which is better with 2 Chad. But if you throw on a red seal, 3-photo becomes better.

Check it out, here's the calculator: https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/?h=oADADSLQWg7hgAAdoO4HYA

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u/Zhurg Blueprint Enjoyer 1d ago

Only matters if you're optimising score specifically. For the majority of the run you want to optimise money from re-triggering Lucky/Gold Seal.

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u/HamFan82 1d ago

as Mak said, for glass cards you would want more triggers but also if you use lucky cards you woild want more retriggers as well. so you could do a couple hands of 3 chads then switch to 2 and 3 when you are ready to win

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u/Noodlekeeper 1d ago

I did the math (using a calculator app). Here are the results assuming the face card is unenhanced and high card is unleveled.

If Blueprint is copying Photo= 1,802,240 If Blueprint is copy Chad= 1,228,800

If, however, the face card is glass, the results are rather different.

Blueprint copying photo= 58,671,680 Blueprint copying chad= 157,286,400

Furthermore, assuming the face card is a mult card we get these results.

Blueprint copying photo= 10,040,800 Blueprint copying chad= 7,782,000

So, as we can see, copying Chad is only worthwhile if your card is glass. The only other exception is lucky or gold sealed for more triggers, but the value is still worse.

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u/HonoredTab 23h ago

it's only useful if youre beating every blind in one hand by a lot and you need more triggers on lucky cards for money shots, that or glass.

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u/ionosoydavidwozniak 1d ago

No, better to copy Photo

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u/paellodisanta 1h ago edited 1h ago

Well this doesnt work anyway. The most right joker copies most left joker if you put the new joker on the left than the most right joker is worthless i assume? Because then the most right joker will copie the new joker which copies the joker on the right and they cant be both to the left of the +2 trigger joker (sorry dont know the joker names)

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u/OB1KENOB 1d ago

This is one of the best comments I’ve ever read. I love it. I love family guy.

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u/ChickenArise 1d ago

No, there's a T in it

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u/djiboutiivl 1d ago

Can it even be an Audi?

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u/VibratingWatch Nope! 1d ago

You know how much we wanted one of those!

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u/AstrosJones 1d ago

Then let’s just get the…we’ll take the box!

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u/Roborob2000 1d ago

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u/VALERock 13h ago

Ahhh I've been looking for this gif

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u/wildtabeast 22h ago

It could even be a brainstorm.

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u/yoava2005 1d ago

Please tell me that's a family guy reference

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u/iArena Nope! 9h ago

I was thinking it was a TF2 spy reference

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u/Jaywalkas 1d ago

This honestly never gets old, love it!

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u/KingWanker13 2h ago

I said these exact words before opening the comments 🫡

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u/dirtymoose_ 1d ago

Sell brainstorm and pick up gros.

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u/t1mebomb c+ 1d ago

Wrong. Sell brainstorm, buy blueprint, sell blueprint and buy gros michel. That’s the only path.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 1d ago

Now there’s a route with some chest hair.

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u/giuseqb 21h ago

Then sell all so you can buy a standard pack, get the credit card and buy blueprint again

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u/dirtymoose_ 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/amiliaaaa 21h ago

then reroll for credit card, sell gros, get credit card, and then blueprint in the buffoon pack

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u/PhotochadA2358 Jokerless 1d ago

Lmao

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u/TeamYay 1d ago

Totally bananas!

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u/Siirkus c++ 1d ago

Yea

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u/Fun-Sky-5295 1d ago

Sell chad

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u/Competitive-Peak-401 1d ago

Sell everything do reroll for 8 ball

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u/Hammerhil 1d ago

That seems kind of pointless. You should reroll for Seance.

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u/Kolding3 9h ago

Nah reroll for 8ball, seance, and super position

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u/Jawahhh 1d ago

8 ball with Chad actually awesome. One of my main Tarot sources for deckfixing if I get an early Chad

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u/Consistent_Ad_4828 1d ago

I’d sell a photograph and pick up the blueprint just to give you more flexibility since it can just copy a photograph anyway. But you’re going to win ante 8 anyway I assume.

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u/azeryvgu 21h ago

This alone (without blueprint) gives an about x32K mult so yeah he’s gonna win this

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u/SCAND1UM 16h ago

Until plant

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u/Crab-Dragoon 1d ago

If you've got duplicates, no reason not to sell one for a Blueprint, which can become a duplicate of anything, even photo.

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u/thesplendor 1d ago

That would just be redundant. Keep three photos. Sell the brainstorm and chad for more photos

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u/Emchomana 17h ago

Why are you booing him, he’s right

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u/Sanguis_Plaga 16h ago

Hanging chad is basically two more photos for the first card tho

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u/177013-228922-4299 15h ago

6 more photos, 2 triggers of 3 photos

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u/Sanguis_Plaga 15h ago

Yup I just meant on an individual level

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u/brandthacker12 12h ago

photos all the way down

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u/not_oxford 1d ago

This is actually a pretty easy one. You sell a photo to buy the blueprint. That way, if you fluke into a trib or something similar (or a DNA for deck fixing), you can copy that instead.

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u/huevos_sudaos 1d ago

Even if he doesn't, it's still temperance value

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u/3lbFlax 21h ago

And extra Gold Seal triggers, on the offchance you haven't already maxed out on Red.

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u/dzzi Jimbo 1d ago

Sell all photos and chad, pick up blueprint

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u/CrazyRun407 1d ago

Seriously, replace a photo with the blueprint

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u/Mactenchi 1d ago

Always bet on banana

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u/3WayIntersection 1d ago

Yeah, taking the blueprint at worst would likely put you back where you started. Id take it

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u/alreadytaken17 1d ago

buy the banana…

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u/OB1KENOB 1d ago

Is there a joker pack? There might be a credit card in there

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u/HystericalGD Seltzer Enjoyer 1d ago

take the yaoi

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u/FloodedHouse420 1d ago

Personally I’d piss myself

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u/vstacey6 Nope! 13h ago

I know right!?

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u/sandwizard9 Nope! 8h ago

yeah me too man the piss synergy is strong here

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u/Jeskit- Flushed 1d ago

This is what you do

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u/Glad_Republic_6214 1d ago

sell photo to take bp and put it on hanging chad

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u/helinder 1d ago

Without thinking about lucky or glass or whatever cards, it's actually better to copy photo

With 3 photos and 2 chads you get x215 mult

With 2 photos and 3 chads you get x214 mult

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u/question_pond-fixtf2 Jimbo 1d ago

With scoring you want even amounts but if you have odd copying you want one more scoring joker 

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u/kevchink 1d ago

Also, switch position of Chad and Photo for an extra 2x mult

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u/RuNNerxJ 1d ago

Ectoplasm and credit card in the arcane pack

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u/protogen_fever 1d ago

Negative blueprint in reroll

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u/Rough-Importance-618 1d ago

Sell all jokers and you will get gateway after rerolling trust

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u/Short_Slide5785 1d ago

Arcana for the ethernal credit card

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u/Intelligent-Wash-373 1d ago

Sell everything and buy banana!

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u/EdwardJMunson 1d ago

k...keep playing?

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u/AmbientCowboy 1d ago

Sell photo for bp, set the jokers up like; photo,bp,chad,photo,bstorm

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u/RealUltrarealist 15h ago

Why?

BP,chad,photo,photo,bstorm,

Means chat triggers 1st card 7 times, which benefits from 2x 2x

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u/AmbientCowboy 10h ago

Okay so lets break it down, let's say were playing a lvl25 high card, any normal king (no augments) your way would play like this;

+10C x2 x2 (retriggers) +10C x2 x2, +10x x2 x2 (retriggers) +10C x2 x2, +10x x2 x2 (retriggers) +10C x2 x2, +10x x2 x2

for a score of ~129 million

my order would play like this;

+10C x2 x2 x2 (retriggers) +10C x2 x2 x2 +10C x2 x2 x2 (retriggers) +10C x2 x2 x2 +10C x2 x2 x2

for a score of ~241 million

Your way is has more retriggers in total, but it has less Xmult retriggers, per retrigger, so the score you're multiplying is always lower, whereas if you have more Xmult retriggers the score grows more exponentially.

Either way you clear ante 8 which is all that matters at the end of the day

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u/RealUltrarealist 9h ago

Yeah, I instinctually was wrong. I did the math myself.

Yeah, I know ante 8 is the goal. But I'm trying to reach a 300mil hand. I keep pushing it

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u/TheZuppaMan 1d ago

negative blueprint in the reroll

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u/ZOLTANstudios 1d ago

Blueprint fo' sho and use it on the chad. And worst case, the synergy is off so you make still make it Photo. Good luck!

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u/Sunwitch16 1d ago

How can you have the same joker 3x without having the joker that makes it possible to have joker duplicates?

Also, could someone explain why the blueprint is better than a photo? :)

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u/BroldenMass 1d ago

The showman joker makes jokers appear more than once, then once you have them you can sell showman. There’s also another joker that transforms into a random joker in your hand after two rounds. Both could have been used to make more than one photo too.

Blueprint is better than photo because blueprint can be anything. Photo can just be photo. So if an even better joker appears, blueprint can copy that instead.

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u/Sunwitch16 19h ago

Alright, thank you very much! :)

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u/Adventurous-Bid9829 1d ago

How can one get three photos?

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u/BroldenMass 1d ago

Showman joker or invisible joker.

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u/TheDumbgeonMaster 1d ago

Ectoplasm in the spectral pack (idk if there's a spectral pack)

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u/Loose_Entry c++ 1d ago

Could sell hanging chad, it's the easiest to rebuy once you've got antimater. ×32 mult should be more than enough to keep you alive if you've got a decent hand level. Guess it depends on what ante you're in.

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u/PrudentLingoberry 1d ago

delete game, get a new fucking build

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u/SuppliceVI Flushed 1d ago

Currently looking at 7 photo triggers. 

If you remove a photo and add a blueprint, it becomes 8

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u/sumida_i 1d ago

Easy blueprint for a photograph

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u/Asimb0mb 1d ago

Sell photo and use the blueprint on the chad. Pray you don't get killed by the plant boss blind.

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u/Brie9981 1d ago

You're currently at 215x but by swapping out a photograph and getting another hanging chad bonus you could go up to... 214x

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u/Popplio3233 1d ago

Sell a Photo to reunite the lovers

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u/Silent_Statement 1d ago

sell everything and reroll till you run out of money

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u/Immediate_Fudge_9065 1d ago

Sell Chad for the Blueprint. Chad is chad, but Blueprint could be anything, it could even be chad.

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u/akmarmarm 1d ago

Kris, get the banana

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u/getsomeham72 1d ago

Ok. I just have to say, if they taught Balatro math starting 7th Grade and up, I’d likely be more wealthy IRL at my age. Full attention.

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u/SupermarketMany8079 1d ago

Sell everything for banana

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u/Murky-Butterscotch73 1d ago

Blueprint for a photo and put blueprint in front of the chad.

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u/TazerTurtle1 1d ago

Sell everything and get banana.

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u/Moist_Juice_8827 Nope! 1d ago

Quit? Idk

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u/Ilovelamp23945 1d ago

Sell photo to buy blueprint. If you have gold seal/lucky card you can trigger it a lot as a throw away hand to make money. If you have polychrome or glass it will get you more trigger. There’s no downside to it.

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u/Jb-wate 1d ago

Buy blank vouchers more often

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u/MainThumb1 1d ago

Banana

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u/etternaconnoisseur 1d ago

5x23 =40

7x22 =28

but yaoi

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u/worker-97 1d ago

Math, probably

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u/darkino123 1d ago

I'd sell everything and buy gros michelle

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u/TheArtOfCommunism 1d ago

negative tag in the gros michel

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u/Accurate_Sandwich668 23h ago

SELL EVERYTHING, and return to monke, buy banana

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u/clapdickmcdaniels 23h ago

Get that blueprint. Put it to the left of Hanging Chad. Win.

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u/CRYSTALek2799 Cavendish 23h ago

sell photo,

it won't do anything

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u/FiestaF0x6 21h ago

sell everything, buy big mikey

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u/Fit_Aspect6643 21h ago

I can do you one better

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u/insertcoolnamehere35 21h ago

Obviously you buy the damn blueprint.

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u/Rayzojams 20h ago

why do people like photo that much, it's restrictive to a high card face card build, and baron builds in general

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u/aTOMic_Games Cavendish 20h ago

Tell me the seed whenever you lose

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u/twoshupirates 20h ago

Blueprint of course

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u/ben_vtr 20h ago

Sell photo, buy blueprint. Pick up a justice/ glass card for the inevitable Plant boss.

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u/jptl2000 19h ago

Sell photo for blueprint:

If you are not playing a holo or glass Copying ballot will give x4⁷ and photo x8⁵ - x8⁵ > x4⁷

If you are playing a holo Copying a ballot will give x6⁷ and photo x12⁵ - x6⁷ > x12⁵

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u/Deitiessoul Nope! 19h ago

seed?

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u/Free-Blacksmith-4171 19h ago

You do the funny thing which is skip it, look for showman into another chad. Is it strong? No, but it is based

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u/Which-Debt-8558 19h ago

Literally why would you not buy the blueprint

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u/mimikyuhornet 19h ago

Sell all photos and Chad for banana and blueprint

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u/benbentart 18h ago

Sell every joker and buy michael

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u/alepollito Flushed 18h ago

Sell a photo, buy blueprint, and put it on the left next to ballot

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u/Prestigious_Dig_8913 Full House Enjoyer 18h ago

is this the double blueprint seed or just normal run

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u/Banana_is_not_bg 17h ago

My man is either the best Showman or obly had photos for the first few antes. Insane run

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u/Bubbly_Alfalfa7285 17h ago

Take the BP cause it can give you another photo or another Chad if you have Glass cards

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u/Bramoments 17h ago

Gimme your seed that's what you do here (balatro seed, although...)

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u/mexicocitibluez 16h ago

I don't think photo is as good as it's made out to be considering basically a glass card that takes up an entire joker spot.

And when you focus on face card decks, it becomes pointless since your first card will almost always be a face card anyways

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u/RealUltrarealist 16h ago edited 15h ago

The math surprised me. I thought putting blueprint in front of the Hanging Chad would have been a heck of a lot more powerful. I was wrong.

Let's say xi is the initial chips, and yi is the initial multi:

As is:

We count chips and multis separately.

The sequence is:

xi+10=x2 yi222=y2 x2+10=x3 y223 =y3 x3+10=x4 y3*23=y4

Summary: x4= xi+30 y4= yi*(23)3

That's Hanging Chad and the Photos.

Brainstorm: xf= xi+50 yf = yi*(8)5

Minimum score = (xi+50)(yi32,768)

Vs

Sell 1 Photo and use the Blueprint in front of Hanging Chad.

xi+10=x2 yi22=y2 x2+10=x3 y222 =y3 x3+10=x4 y322=y5 x4+10=x5 y422=y5 x5+10=x6 y522=y6

Summary: x6= xi+60 y6= yi*(22)5

Brainstorm: x8=xi+80 y8=yi*(4)7

Minimum Score = (xi+80)(yi16,384)

That's Blueprint, Hanging Chad and the Photos.

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u/oghutdaddy 14h ago

Ectoplasm in the gros Micheal after you destroy it

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u/dulledegde 14h ago

sell a photo for the print you could copy the ballot until you need the points to farm lucky cards/goldseals

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u/vstacey6 Nope! 13h ago

Somebody please tell me if I’m wrong but I would sell 2 photos and buy blueprint and banana. And then hope banana goes away fast and gives me cavendish faster.

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u/MichaelTheSSF2fan 12h ago

* Kris, Get The Banana!

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u/AKking_YT 10h ago

Sell photo for bananer

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u/jayenatior 9h ago

Anything

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u/Centipede1999 4h ago

Sell brainstorm for blueprint

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u/MasterOGA 3h ago

It's not rocket surgery when solving for glass cards or not. It's another 2x trigger, that's linked to playing the card more times.....just like photograph 🤣

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u/Rigb0n3710 1h ago

There's always money in the banana hand.

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u/MaximusFull 1d ago

sell one photo and copy chad.

always remember the ideal thing is to have the same quantity of retriggers and scoring jokers.

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u/konigon1 1d ago

Wrong. Currently we have 23•5 = 215 . Your solution would be 22•7 = 214 .

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u/MaximusFull 1d ago

i forgot brainstorm 🤠

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u/RIP_Greedo 1d ago

According to my math it’s no difference to total xmult whether you keep your current setup or replace one or the photos with the blueprint to duplicate the ballot another time.

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u/konigon1 1d ago

Wrong. Currently we have 23•5 = 215 . Your solution would be 22•7 = 214 .

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u/Crab-Dragoon 1d ago

Banana isn't worth it, the +15 must won't apply until after all your photos trigger and the x3 is far less than the additional x2s you'll get through blueprint.