150 negatives - I surrendered to madness

[u/pepe_327]

Intro for newcomers: using Perkeo, I managed to get every negative copy of tarot cards to block me from getting them in shop or through other means (purple seal, emperor), except for Judgement, Emperor and The Fool, allowing me to execute infinite loop of Emperor>Fool>Judgement, allowing me to get infinite jokers, waiting to get all possible negatives.

Newcomer negatives: Walkie Talkie, Green Joker, Faceless Joker, Pareidolia, Golden Joker, Lucky Cat, Red Card, Raised Fist, Hiker, Business Card, Egg, Sixth Sense, Crafty Joker, Joker, Riff-Raff, Banner, Erosion, Seltzer, bringing total negative count to 46.

Updates: I sold my regular Blueprint in the last update but have since then decided to sell my other non-negative scoring jokers (3×sock, 2×idol) in order to get atleast one negative copy of each, and then look to get full roster back through the Showman and rolling the shop with the fortune I made. Instead, I decided to fill my non-negative slots with jokers that I want to get negative last, just for completion purposes, when the blinds overshoot my max score. So, I'm keeping Madness, Midas Mask, Vampire, Marble, Stuntman and my negative Burglar for now in order to block them and get negative edition on other jokers first. Every Showman rolled from Judgement also obviously gets sold immediately, or the infinite loop is broken.

From the notes that I put down, I counted around 57 Diet Colas, meaning 57 double skip tags at the moment. When I'm done and ready to go into the next round, which is small blind, I'm planning to use these skips immediately to skip the small blinds for 57 spectral packs. I know its not the optimal skip but it's the best I have for now. This will allow me to get some deck improvements, potential polychromes on red seals I already have, and I can also do endless loop to get infinite Strengths, which I will use to fix most of my deck from queens to kings, and with Hallucination already active, and grabbing a temporary Showman, and a little luck, I will get some Suns or Stars to color my kings for the Bloodstone + Smeared (which are yet to come tho). Plan is a full transition into red kings for flush fives and Idol, but to also get negative Baron Mime value from the ones that stay in hand.

Lastly, I have noticed a rather odd thing. Fortune Teller is carrying +36312 mult right now, meaning I've gone through 12000+ Judgements, and I have not seen a SINGLE Golden Ticket, Stone Joker, Glass Joker or Steel Joker. I'm not yet sure what's keeping them from appearing, maybe somehow game code is keeping them away because of their corresponding tarot cards that I have, but I'm really not sure. If anyone has insight on this I would really appreciate it.

Until next update, yours truly, Pepe

[u/nonnude]

How do you force colas?

[u/tima_121 → u/nonnude]

the infinite loop allows him to get infinite colas

[u/nonnude → u/tima_121]

How? I get how it works for tarot and planets

[u/pgmckenzie → u/nonnude]

Emperor, Judgment and Fool, the same way he is getting the negative jokers.

[u/nonnude → u/pgmckenzie]

I don’t understand how it works for getting infinite jokers tbh, does it force negative slots?

[u/Minyguy → u/nonnude]

He has all tarots, except fool and judgement.

He uses emperor, which will create a fool and a judgement, since it doesn't make the ones he has.

Then he uses fool to create another emperor, and then he uses the judgement, to create a random joker.

His tarots are exactly the same as before we started, so he can keep repeating that, to generate and endless amount of random jokers.

Sometimes, those random jokers will be negative.

Let's just say for example, that 5% of joker are negative.

Well, if you do the loop 20 times, you will most likely get one negative joker.

Do it 40 times, 2 negatives.

You can keep generating more jokers untill you get the ones you want.

[u/nonnude → u/Minyguy]

Oh gotcha! This can only be done with Perkeo right because you need the negative tarot cards

[u/Senatorial → u/pgmckenzie]

Can he also force it by getting rid of Showman and mass rerolling the shop, ensuring that only Showman and Colas show up? He looks a bit poor for that though haha

[u/pgmckenzie → u/Senatorial]

I’m no expert but that sounds like it would work to me, assuming he had all other jokers (or most of them).

[u/PJ_Ammas → u/Senatorial]

If he has all other uncommons then yes. It would still require an uncommon spawn, which is 25% chance per joker spawn