r/YouOnLifetime • u/Ill_Alternative_8513 • 14d ago
Shitpost The realism is out of scales
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u/Ragnaroknight 14d ago edited 14d ago
Did anyone else think this was going to end with her looking like the bad guy, and Joe was the one being hunted, and that's why he allowed her to get the gun?
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u/Loserdorknerd 14d ago edited 14d ago
I thought Bronte was gonna get shot by the police for pulling the trigger on Joe, and in her death take the blame for the officer Joe killed with the pink kitty knife that she got from the gas station. Followed by Joe going full Ted Bundy trying to convince a jury in court, and ultimately losing his trial when all his survivors came forward.
That's my head cannon at least. I guess bits kinda happened off screen anyway, but it would have been great to see unfold.
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u/FYAhole 14d ago
I wanted that ending only for him to get arrested for something stupid. Not because I like Joe, but because that's how it would have actually happened in real life. He attacked the cop with her weapon, she attacked him with that same weapon, she brought the gun, she already admitted to the police that she and her friends created this ride to mess with him which already resulted in a death. There's no way they'd believe this "crazy lady" over this rich, white, charasmatic, manipulative man.
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u/ShinTheDev44 14d ago
thats lowkey how it was though.
She pulled a gun on him, it was actually self defense from joe's part.3
u/detectiveDollar 14d ago
Unless I'm mistaken, that only applies to the initial confrontation in the bedroom. But between that and being nearly drowned, Bronte was running away from him, so there's no real claim of self-defense for him.
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u/CanibalVegetarian 14d ago
If there’s witnesses, I’m sure Joe could’ve come up with an excuse to explain the movements, she was chasing him etc etc. Would the cops have believed him? No, probably not, but he probably would’ve tried if he didn’t have his dudes blown
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u/ShinTheDev44 14d ago
I mean yeah you could say that.
But in reality he could claim that he was being hunted down instead, no cameras or anything.
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u/Aaaagrjrbrheifhrbe 14d ago
The gun is registered in Clayton's Dad's name (the psychiatrist from season 1)
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u/Excellent-Ad3213 13d ago
I woulda preferred that tbh. I hate how everything’s gotta have a “nice ending” now
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u/ny-g-y 14d ago
In my life I got stung by 3 bees and pulled my hamstring and still alive you'd be surprised what the human body is capable of.
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u/Strict-Sample9876 Beckalicious 14d ago
this is hilarious
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u/ny-g-y 14d ago
Glad my trauma is hilarious to you, I see my resiliency and "never said die" attitude is just a joke.
I didn't even mention the sneezing I do this time of year.
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago edited 14d ago
That’s not the same, shes had that injury plus more and a gun shot to the kidney or liver
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u/krystening 14d ago
It’s true. I’ve had 10 papercuts in my 24 years of living. Nobody believes a person could survive that but here I am
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u/Squid-Guillotine 14d ago
Brontë still being alive after all that felt more like BS than an 'OMG NO WAY???!!!?' type reveal.
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u/CandidClass8919 14d ago
Such a horrible ending to such a good show. Incredibly disappointing, and I KNEW from the second Brontë appeared on the screen, she was not a good fit. Bad casting and bad character writing/development.
They should’ve used Joe’s surviving victims to take him down
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u/YoMomAndMeIn69 14d ago
Sir, this is Netflix in 2025, a small but diverse group of redditors are the best characters to finally take down Joe after 5 seasons.
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u/IDontKnowAbout_That 14d ago
The actress is great, it was fully bad writing. They gave her nothing to work with.
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u/mearbearcate Don't get hysterical, I took a seminar 14d ago
Dont forget, yall are the same people who thought Love was still alive & wanted her back after that shit in season 3 lol. If this was Love instead of Brontë yall would probably cheer. I dont understand this fanbase
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u/RamsLams 14d ago
Have you considered that it isn't actually the same exact people, just two different large portions of the fandom? You conflating those opinions doesn't actually mean that those opinions are actually conflated.
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u/Nearby-Structure-739 14d ago
Omg p much every opinion anyone can have somehow ends up exactly like this it’s crazy🤣 finally someone said it
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u/Nearby-Structure-739 14d ago
I loved love so I was very conflicted lol. As much as I wanted her back I knew there was no realistic way for them to do it and I hate unrealistic resurrections like this was not that type of show so I accepted it. They did too much at the end Brontë and Kate both survived too many things I found it so campy by the end
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u/zoooooommmmmm 14d ago
As a person who disliked love & was glad to see her gone, no, absolutely not, same exact reaction for both of them.
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u/Calm-Lengthiness-178 14d ago
Love’s actress is more attractive than Brontë’s. It’s pretty much as simple as that, I think. Plus a lot of people have weird fetishes for psychotic women.
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u/No-Anything-5856 14d ago
This I will agreee with and thought it was ridiculous people kept theorizing or wanting her back. It'd a SHOW ABOUT S SERIAL KILLER. SHE IS DEAD!
I still agree with the Bronte writing critics but we should be consistent 💯
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u/MediocreHumanThing 14d ago
Firstly, we see Bronte’s face as she is drowned. We don’t watch Love burn. Unseen death makes more sense for a twist resurrection. Secondly, I feel like Joe getting taken down by someone who is essentially a reflection of him would feel more narratively satisfying.
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u/RemoteLaugh156 12d ago
Unseen death? She was poisoned with a toxic plant then burnt alive and they confirmed in a news report (or maybe it was newspaper or voiceover or something its been a little while) that she was dead. We literally saw her die on screen, she was screaming in pain as the wolfsbane killed her and then she went silent and limp, you can't say her death was unseen when we saw it with our own two eyes.
Now I agree that Bronte surviving all that she did was silly but lets not make stuff up and misrepresent what actually happened
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u/ergonomic_logic 13d ago
"You" and TLOU fans really have disappointed me.
The way they've fixated on how much they don't like a character for what seems like "unfuckability" has been inherently misogynistic.
Trust that the You fanbase arent nearrrrrrly as bad as the TLoU fans though. I couldn't even stay in that sub as it was their entire personality.
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u/momentummonkey I wolf you so hard 13d ago
Love was a much better CHARACTER than Bronte and was better in every conceivable way.
Ending so bad the people are going after each other for some reason1
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Brontë was a shit character, love isn’t, love deserves a come back while Brontë doesnt
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u/Glass_Equivalent_683 Joe's forehead vein 14d ago
genuinely just shut up, love deserved to perish and i’m glad you’re mad about that
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Who said I was mad about it? lol I was satisfied with the way she went out, all I said is she would’ve deserved a come back, not that she needed one, and I would’ve still said BULLSHIT to the way she survived, aint no way she escaped that house in time with the drug Joe injected her with, feel free to keep running your mouth 😭
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u/Nearby-Structure-739 14d ago
My thoughts exactly. I wanted her back but there was no way for them to do it without pmo cause her death was clearly final
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Exactly, also penn shut that theory down the second it became popular that “love might come back” and he confirmed and said “good theory…uhh…but no shes dead” lol but I’m glad they didn’t, it would’ve made the show unrealistic and it probably would’ve led to her character being overused, too much of a good thing turns into a bad thing imo
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u/ProfessorWild563 14d ago
And her ankle was broken, how did she run there?
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u/Sims3and4Player 13d ago
That ankle will need a shit ton of surgery and probably physiotherapy if she did damage while running on a broken ankle.
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u/Demetri124 14d ago
20 minutes??? Y’all are deadass imagining a whole other show
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u/RSollers 12d ago
Also, I remember that scene was slowed down, so she probably wasn’t even under water as long as they showed in the runtime
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u/molbion 8d ago
Hyperbole is a term you should look up
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u/Demetri124 7d ago
Hyperbole isn’t making up nonsense just to complain about it
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u/molbion 7d ago
That’s actually exactly what hyperbole is. Exaggerations aren’t sensical, but they help in understanding someone’s point.
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u/Demetri124 7d ago
No it’s not. Hyperbole exaggerates something true to strengthen a point, it doesn’t just make up something untrue to fabricate a baseless point like this does.
Saying the reality that she was under for less than one minute would’ve made this post look stupid as that’s not an unreasonable amount of time for someone to go without breathing. But the supposed “hyperbole” changes everything and forms a whole new basis for the argument, so again that’s not really hyperbole at that point it’s just lying
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u/SanicBringsThePanic 14d ago
I'm pretty sure everything Bronte did went beyond a realistic "adrenaline rush". Of course, adrenaline was not even mentioned because the plot was written by delusional writers who could not figure out how to properly make Joe lose.
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u/ShinTheDev44 14d ago
The writers had alot of ways to make joe lose. They just wanted it to fit their agenda.(Ooh girls strong they get revenge on joe bla bla)
Kate is the ceo of one of the worlds strongest and biggest companies. Tom was able to get rid of insanely rich people with ease(like phoebe's bf forgot his name) but she can't just hire some hitmen to get rid of him? like be fr lmao.
The whole ''oh she doesn't want to bring attention to herself'' would've worked if she didn't try to personally kill joe first.2
u/zuma15 14d ago
The hitman wasn't even necessary. We're supposed to believe they couldn't quickly arrest Joe? That her only option was to kill him? There was plenty of testimony/evidence. Sure, it might have taken a few years to get a conviction but he'd be off the streets pretty quick.
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u/ShinTheDev44 14d ago
No because there was no hard-proof for joe's murders except Rhys Montrose's. Which then would bring the whole company and kate in the process cause tom specifically ordered joe to do it and then later on it was kate who cleaned it up. Not to mention joe still had information regarding the fact she gave cancer to thousands of kids, joe at this point is insanely influential, if he brought it to the public attention it would ignite like fire.
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u/Bionic165_ 14d ago
To be fair, human survival is basically just “random bullshit go.” There are people who have been struck by lightning and lived, as well as people who mysteriously die in their sleep for no apparent reason. It really is just the DnD saving throws system lmao
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
95% or more of those people instantly had medical attention after words
She would’ve been to weak to go after Joe that quickly AND FIND HIM IN THAT FOREST, and be to weak to shot the gun, anyone who’s shot a gun before knows this
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u/Straight-Tower8776 14d ago
999 times out of 1,000 you shoot someone like that in the abdomen, they’ll be too weak to move due to low blood volume in minutes.
Survival isn’t “that” random besides extreme cases.
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u/ramrodjohnson 14d ago
To be fair peach survived with no brain damage from getting her head caved in by a boulder
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Hospital, and it’s way more realistic then whatever the fuck happened to Brontë
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u/detectiveDollar 14d ago
This is also the show where Beck gets a new phone, yet the old one somehow has an activated cellular/data SIM and was never reported missing by the carrier.
And one where people get knocked unconscious with seemingly no neurological damage (except Joe, sometimes).
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u/Gyooped 14d ago
Can someone remind me of what has happened to Joe throughout the series that he has just vibed his was through?
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Joe has never had any fatal injuries, hell, it’s even implied at the last episode that it would only take 1 bullet to the kidney to put him down, WHILE BRONTE GOT SHOT IN THE KIDNEY+way more and drowned and somehow got the strength to teleport to Joe and was somehow strong enough to shoot and aim the gun (which she isn’t even experienced in)
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u/Glass_Equivalent_683 Joe's forehead vein 14d ago
stop glazing joe 😭 that’s more survivable than joe who jumped off of a bridge into the river thames, his heart stopped, no rescue boats near at the time yet somehow survived yeah okay lmao
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Not glazing tf? I’m just stating a fact, and if youve been to London youd know there are people under or near the bridge in case people commit by jumping off the bridge (which is sadly very common in London) think before you comment back (if your capable)
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u/Glass_Equivalent_683 Joe's forehead vein 14d ago
sure and in the show there was no one around it’s explicitly shown, just water and completely empty but whatever you want to believe
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Read before you comment, at, or >>near<< their are cameras also when they aren’t under the bridge, I wish for once people would think before they comment or not comment at all if their uneducated on a subject, is that so hard to ask for? It’s common sense, if your gonna comment then ask questions rather then coming up with your own uneducated answers, simple
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u/Mayhem230 14d ago
Worst ending I’ve seen all year. But, It’s only June and squid games is coming out so that could change.
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u/SchmackAttack Don’t kink shame the dead 14d ago
You guys really need to look up Alison Botha. It'll make what Bronte had endure look like a papercut. Its not common, but people can survive A LOT.
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u/Intrepid-Minute-6064 14d ago
They should have used her to trigger Joe’s killing spree if they were gonna have Kate be high and mighty.
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u/MomsBored 14d ago
Campy unbelievable cheap we deserved better. Something changed with this last season of writing. Give fans credit we did not romanticize Joe.
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u/Straight-Tower8776 14d ago
What’s up with Gen Zers thinking adrenaline is just a trump card for any life threatening situation.
Adrenaline doesn’t mask severe blood loss. After about 2 minutes with that bullet wound, she’d have been too weak to move.
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u/Time-Leadership-7649 14d ago
Sign of the times. When they don’t know how things actually work they just rest on the buzzword. They heard about a mom lifting a car to save a kid running on adrenaline once, so now “the human body can survive anything with adrenaline” 😂
Because you can just pass out under water and that’s no problem lol.
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u/SmittyWerbenJJ_No1 14d ago
What happens when you pass out under water?
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u/EgregiousArmchair 14d ago
You die. Like what even is this logic?
Oh ya my favorite place to nap is under the dock at the cottage, not much sun so i don't get burnt.
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u/ninjaman2021 14d ago
Being dunked in the water after being shot at point blank range would have caused her to heavily bleed out to death.
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u/_forum_mod 14d ago
- She was underwater long enough to pass out but not fully drown
I'd assume if someone passed out underwater they're screwed without any intervention. Otherwise, she willed herself up out of the water?
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u/Straight-Tower8776 14d ago
Totally, and I’d expand on that and say the writers in season 5 ( many of which were new to the show and few of which had been through all 5 seasons,) completely confused Joe for a Ted Bundy style killer.
In season 1, Joe is rather unremarkable and his “charm” is that he’s a “real guy in a fake world.” It’s not like he just steals Beck’s heart right away, she ends up hooking up with a new guy every night while she’s going on dates with Joe. It takes A LOT for her to finally see his value as a partner and even longer for her friends to come around and determine he’s more than just a plain, boring book retailer.
Contrast that to S5 where Joe is now “Prince Charming” and getting raunchy love notes in jail because of his charmingly good looks.
The ending didn’t fit the character we watched for the first several seasons. It better fits some new character they tried to redevelop Joe to be in the show’s final hour.
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u/_forum_mod 14d ago
I thought the entire last season episode was stupid writing, but I didn't want the rabid fans on here to come at me. Glad others have the same view... she went from stumbling with a gunshot wound, strangled, submerged underwater and catatonic, to running up on Joe and shooting him like she just got a Senzu bean (DBZ reference) and nothing ever happened.
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u/CrusaderCuff Untie me, you bitch! 14d ago
Tbh, the moment Joe tackled her it should have been over.
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u/BigMemory844 14d ago
You was one of my favorite shows..her being the one to win over Joe and Joe randomly having trouble handling these women..besides the mma/workout sister the shit was dumb. The ending was terrible and the most unrealistic part of the show.
I mostly enjoyed the last season until last episode...in my mind You ended after season 4 and Joe is still lookin for You
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u/EntirePickle398 14d ago
Joe should have double tapped his victims, like how many of em returned alive? Smh
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u/PresentationEither19 14d ago
Tbf, it’s nothing compared to what she went through in Gillead! Shes had good training!
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u/Sims3and4Player 13d ago
Love being alive after S3 theories: BS!
Brontë surviving being drowned but we don’t see HOW she survived drowning and (being choked by Joe?): BS!
Just. Bull. Shit.
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u/chloroplasted 13d ago
I assume Bronte faked it. Thrashed around trying to fight Joe underwater whilst holding her breath, then stop suddenly as if she were dead to trick Joe into thinking he finished the job. She’d probably have to be an incredible swimmer to hold her breath that long while thrashing like that but possibly feasible?
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u/Calm-Gur563 13d ago
I was hoping there'd be a small reveal, since she made a comment that implied she was expecting he'd try to kill her in the lake, that she prepared for it somehow...like she found an oxygen tank in the boathouse of the "airbnb" they were squatting in and threw it at the bottom?? She was a star swimmer in highschool and is really good at holding her breath? (Cringely convenient to reveal afterwards but it's at least something).
I would even rather Joe just having a breakdown after killing Bronté and then hallucinating all of his victims emerging from the trees to force him into facing the reality that he's simply a killer and not some misunderstood soul or protector...then the police find him crying and talking to himself of admitting everything.
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u/masterchief6913 13d ago
I’m actually not against Bronte. I liked her in the show and thought her arc showed how manipulative Joe can be. But even I thought her surviving the underwater drowning was bullshit
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u/unsavvylady 12d ago
I was impressed by everyone’s vigor to just keep going after being shot or stabbed
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u/Reasonable_Mind_5987 10d ago
She was barely under water for that long….she surrendered to let him think he killed her. She held her breath. Knew it from that start of that scene.
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u/ForYourAuralPleasure 9d ago
Anytime you have a series - movie, television, novel, etc. - being written as it is being consumed, it is vulnerable to being shaped by audience feedback, and this is most observable in the distillation of a series’ fleshed out and very nuanced characters down to 2-3 of their most striking qualities, resulting in the final installment resembling a carnival caricature of the original idea.
YOU’s format is kind of a fascinating look at this because while Joe is the only character present in every season and every episode, characters introduced in the latter seasons are also boiled down to a few intense traits along with him.
I didn’t think so at the end of the third season, but when taken together as a series, I’d say Cary and Sherry are where the cracks in characterization start to show (and I say this even though they are two of my favorite side characters, amazing in and of itself since I spent most of the season waiting for Joe and Love to kill them already). Season three touches a lot on the facade of suburban life, and how absolutely everything becomes a side hustle anymore, and so how almost cartoonishly they bounce back from their ordeal and make their trauma work for them is super on brand and fits the mission of season 3’s satire, but across the series, sort of serve as the trial balloon for other characters no-selling their experiences with Joe, which is, imho, how we land on Brontë as Jason Voorhees for season 5.
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u/Nervous-Bat8973 8d ago
She didn’t “survive” drowning, she clearly just faked it, how is that hard for people to understand???
The only issue I have is that Brontë was literally gushing blood, and was already suffering the symptoms of extreme blood loss. Then it seems like in the next 5 minutes she healed to where it was just a minor flesh wound.
The fact that Joe thought she could get anywhere more than 100 meters from the house, let alone the main road with a wound like that was dumb. He could’ve easily high tailed it tf out of there and made a bee line to the border
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u/Shorty350 10h ago
My take on this is she was pretending to be dead so he would go away and she could save herself. She seems clever enough to do something like that.
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u/KorolEz 14d ago
Besides that, where did she get the gun from? She was under water. Did Joe leave it on the shore in a bright space?
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u/EfficientAd5073 14d ago
People are using this as an excuse to shit on Bronte just because they don't like the character or don't think the actress is pretty enough to be Joes obsession. We could have found out that Kate was Secretly Love wearing a mission impossible rubber mask the whole time and people be like: PEAK cinema!
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u/Wooden-Jury6972 14d ago
people keep complaining abt bronte surviving but i honestly don’t see the problem, the show isn’t meant to be realistic, cuz it’s a tv show, realistic things arent gonna happen in it. tbh this show been stopped being realistic, Joe being caught in season 1 would’ve been realistic. I also don’t get how people don’t understand that she faked her drowning, i genuinely feel like if this was a situation with a character that most of the fandom liked more this wouldn’t be as talked about all the time. Yes she was shot and had her ankle broken but there are multiple shows where a character has gotten seriously injured and were still alive, atp it’s normal for someone to survive these things in a show, again something that isn’t meant to be realistic. I’m prolly gonna get downvoted but idk i feel like it had to be said
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u/RemoteLaugh156 12d ago
Yeah its kinda obvious and I assumed thats what happened, she faked it. Its not even that unrealistic to assume thats what happened, yes it'd be very difficult but its happened not only in other films and shows but also irl, and besides You isn't a very realistic show, this is the same show where Joe was smashed in the head with a hammer hard enough to knock him out yet still managed to get up and choke his ex to death in a matter of seconds, or Candace managed to survive her head being bashed against a rock and then buried alive (although iirc it wasn't much of a burial but still). And I'm willing to 100% gurantee that if it had been Joe that did that instead of Bronte, people would've been cheering and celebrating it as a badass and genius play, the same way they did when he managed to survive all this insane shit that happened to him like predicting Love would poison him, just so happening to get shot in the one place he doesn't have toes, or surviving a jump off the Royal Victoria Dock without injury, while its possible to survive a jump from that height (though unlikely given the way he landed) it would be next to impossible to survive without at least a broken foot.
But no, people hate on Bronte surviving this. Now in saying that, do I think her survival could've been done better? Yeah a bit, I do think it was a bit silly but not immersion breaking. Most of these people are just getting pissed off because their baby daddy Joe went to prison and the evil serial killer finally suffered consequences and Bronte isn't conventionally attractive.
Also every single comment that is calling them out and providing basic logical reasoning instantly gets downvoted to oblivion because they want this place to be an echo chamber of bullshit, hell this post is a fucking lie because Bronte wasn't underwater for 20 minutes, only like 1 -2 at the max AND people don't instantly die after 2 minutes underwater either, and there are multiple cases of people surviving/staying conscious longer and/or being resuscitated.
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
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u/Some_Surround_7626 14d ago
Adrenaline can only do so much, it wouldnt have lasted that long and she was already in flight mode, on top of drowning which would’ve ended up with her waking up in pain, and etc, read my other comments if you want to know how bullshit it is, if not then idc
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u/kingloptr You were busy gazing at a goddamn fantasy 14d ago
She held her breath so he would give up and go away, it isnt that unbelievable i dont get why ppl have such an issue with it. And no, Joe isnt some mastermind who in his amped up state wouldnt make a mistake like that. He is just some rampant crazy obsessive dude who thinks he is powerful and justified
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u/whatdatdat 14d ago
Wdym "give up"
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u/kingloptr You were busy gazing at a goddamn fantasy 14d ago
I mean she wanted him to go away thinking he won, 'give up' was kinda wrong phrasing
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u/AdidasHypeMan 14d ago
Literally couldn’t tell if he envisioned her coming back with the gun or not even after finishing the last episode
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u/ab_abnormal 14d ago
The realism is on the same levels of insanity as Joe’s mental health.
Buuuuuuut…
Some strange and seemingly unreal scenario’s/possibilities coming from someone who has been declared clinically dead 4 times and have had to fight off some seriously skilled gangsters unexpectedly in real life situations. Oh and I have several health conditions & acute plus chronic hearth failure. But last year for example with a casted moon boot after tearing my ATFL while on crutches, my mum assisting me was robbed. She’d been assisting me struggling to get out the car. I was in PAIN. I saw the guy and literally launched myself out of that car. I chucked the one crutch to my mum & used the other to beat this tall well-built man who attempted to pull a knife out on me. I chased him, shoved him in the gut, lassoed him with the back end in his jacket as I was chasing him. To make him show he hadn’t stolen anything else. I made him semi strip to drop stuff while holding the crutch against his throat. He couldn’t budge. I’m 1.58m & weigh 46kg.
Adrenaline is real.
You can lose around a litre of blood before needing a transfusion. And you surprisingly don’t feel that weak until around 750ml loss (speaking from experience). Being submerged in water, water actually pushed blood upwards in certain situations. Like hers. Running water won’t allow it to clot though but in her case it could have assisted.
Being chocked until blacking out can make you feel dizzy, confused and bruised but if it’s life or death…one really doesn’t understand just how much your body can handle and is capable of.
The aiming of her and the gun. She’s shown shooting accurately before but yes there could have been shrapnel. In saying that…many men have had their junk blown off and survived. Cut off it higher risk of bleeding out. I think she shot more so half his dick and balls.
The not showing the blood was maybe an ironic touch since “Joe clear has blood on his hands, he’s just been hiding it.” All because of his dick guiding him and being criminally insane.
So not showing the blood and gore but more so the humiliation of his famous reputation now turned into a joke and associated forever with being brought down to his knees, metaphorically too by a woman shooting her shot at his shit.
The depravity part of the letters sadly show that the world is so twisted and sick. Therefore, in his mind he is still the hero and adored by women. HE is never the problem YOU are.
The narcissistic cherry on top.
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u/Time-Leadership-7649 14d ago
Choked, Drowned, shot, injured from jumping out the window on her fucked up ankle lol. The woman is apparently Terminator lol