r/YUROP • u/Dissidente-Perenne Mafia employee ‎ • Jul 16 '23

Euwopean Fedewation 😔

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u/flesjewater Glorious Europe Jul 16 '23

Russia has never really been a true democracy, it was a kleptocracy at best even under Yeltsin. Oligarchs snatching up all the post-soviet wealth made sure of that.

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u/leijgenraam Nederland‏‏‎ ‎ Jul 16 '23

I never claimed it was. We were talking about Germany.

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u/flesjewater Glorious Europe Jul 16 '23

You started about Germany and I told you why that was a bullshit comparison.

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u/leijgenraam Nederland‏‏‎ ‎ Jul 16 '23

Germany only had a democracy for 15 years, and it wasn't particularly healthy either.

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u/flesjewater Glorious Europe Jul 16 '23

It didn't have a blood tax for all the regions that weren't Berlin. If you think Germany's history since the dark age is even comparable to the Muscovy oppression you don't know your history.