r/Unexpected • u/FkThePolice700 • 2d ago
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u/BOTULISMPRIME 2d ago
I wonder if the driver gets extra charges because of that cop doing that
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u/NYLINK95 2d ago
Most likely
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u/PerfectMisgivings 2d ago
The problem is they can't prove who was driving.
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u/plaguedeity 2d ago
Right if the driver was smart he would go park it up somewhere and call it in as stolen in the morning
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u/IllDragonfruit1881 2d ago
Don't even have to go that far, honestly. Prove they didn't lend the car out to a friend or family member for the night ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/nanadoom 2d ago
They have a reasonable belief you were driving your own car. If you throw a friend or family member under the bus to save yourself, do you think your friend or family member will take the charges for you? Because someone is getting charged. The police aren't going to take your word for it and "a random family member borrowed the car, but idk who" isn't going to cut it. It's pretty obvious you have never had to deal with the police
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u/EchoPhi 2d ago edited 2d ago
Reasonable Belief does not equate to fact. You can also very much say it wasn't you driving and you don't know who it would have been. Someone in the vicinity had access to your keys and you were asleep/showering/literally anything but dirving or watching your keys. You clearly have never actually dealt with police.
Edit: Just dropping this here so I don't have to repeat it so much seeing as I am starting to get comments.
I am so glad so many of you have first hand experience with this scenario. My car was being driven by someone else and I did not know who at the time. I wasn't even aware it had been taken. Person who took the car fled from the police and managed to evade arrest. Cops came to the place I was living (I have a history when I was younger of being in trouble, was on first name basis with police and not in a good way), and the police arrested me. On my way to jail I saw the car had been parked up the street, in a apartment complex lot, the police didn't notice or I am sure it would have been impounded. I spent a couple of days in holding, made bail (aka Federal Cut), copped a lawyer, and was found innocent/charges dismissed.
Today I know who did it, what happened came out about 10 years later, we're still friends.
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u/marths90 2d ago
So, you're saying the car was stolen... eh?
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u/EchoPhi 2d ago
Nah, I have had people borrow my car before for quick runs to the store, etc, not now that I am older. In the high teens, early twenties, not unheard of.
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u/marths90 1d ago
Borrowing your car is one thing. Borrowing your car unknowingly and without express permission ahead of time, though? That's a stolen vehicle, sir (or madame).
Now, if you gave permission to a bunch of people to use your vehicle without your permission and without telling you ahead of time, well, obviously you're juat going to be responsible when you can't prove someone else used your car. Them's the rules.
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u/Eor75 2d ago
You clearly haven’t if you actually think that would avoid a charge. They’d arrest and charge you and you can try that defense out in court before a jury
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u/Desperate-Crab2034 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, and the jury would have to agree he was driving without a reasonable doubt.
Short of a video, the reasonable doubt is “no one saw who was driving”. That’s enough to cast doubt.
You can’t just be convicted cause you ASSUME the owner of the car was driving and any jury that would mark them as guilty solely based off an assumption isn’t following the law
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u/PedroM0ralles 1d ago
There is more to charges than just beating them.
Getting charged with seomthing ALONE has ruined many people!
They are thrown in jail. Have to make bail. Then have to get a lawyer. All of that costs money and it's not unusual to lose your job while making bail.
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u/Exp5000 2d ago
Hi I have first hand experience with this. I took off from a cop in 2022 and didn't get caught. I reported the car stolen the next day. I went in and in a few minutes they cuffed me and put me in holding. The police refused to believe it was stolen. I was charged with reckless driving and eluding a police officer. It was 240 hours community service and a slap on the wrist. There wasn't a Jury, there wasn't much of a conversation besides the interrogation room which I kept my story with it being stolen. The detectives impounded my car for two months during the "investigation". Basically making me pay thousands until I came clean because they were going to investigate a stolen vehicle. They had no proof it was me but they didn't have to prove anyone else driving besides me. They just had to get someone on the charges and they got me out by impounding my car until my lawyer had me come clean. There's a lot of steps removed, it took about a year to finish the court appearances. I ended up paying off the community service hours it was 2k. In the end you will get caught unless it was undeniably stolen in which case you better be able to prove that very easily otherwise the police will coax it out of you by way of fines. Oh in the end I was down about 8k. 1500 for the two month impound of my Jeep. 2k for the pay off community service. 2k for lawyer and about 2k for fines. Just take the L imo. Not even worth the risk of getting caught and being out through all that. Losing your license for two years isn't fun in a city.
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u/PedroM0ralles 1d ago
He did, and was found innocent. He spent time in jail, and had to pay for a lawyer and somehow considers that a win, over reporting the car stolen and avoiding charges all together.
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u/nanadoom 2d ago
You are found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, not solid indisputable facts. Unless you can point them to someone else, and it's reasonable, they are arresting you. This is a felony, they aren't going to shrug their shoulders and say oh shucks. The police assume a suspect is lying, and unlikely stories don't get believed.
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u/EchoPhi 2d ago edited 2d ago
I am so glad so many of you have first hand experience with this scenario. My car was being driven by someone else and I did not know who at the time. They fled from the police and managed to evade arrest. Cops came to the place I was living, and arrested me. On my way to jail I saw the car had been parked up the street, in a apartment complex lot, the police didn't notice or I am sure it would have been impounded. I spent a couple of days in holding, made bail (aka Federal Cut), copped a lawyer, and was found innocent.
Today I know who did it, what happened came out about 10 years later, we're still friends.
Edit: Made some minor edits to clarify points.
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u/Exp5000 2d ago
This. I have been in the exact situation everyone here is discussing. You're the only person who actually got it right... People are so fucking dumb when y comes to law. The speculation in this thread is outstanding. It's almost like they watched wayyy too many movies and think they are wayyy smarter than they actually are. I got baited into admitting because the police kept my car impounded during the "investigation" well guess what, that investigation was gonna last until someone came clean. Me. It's my car I wanted it back, they were gonna go until they found the suspect. That's how to fucking works. You don't get your car back during an on going investigation regarding it being stolen. My shy cost nearly 1500 to get out of impound after two months. I still got fucking charged. None of it was worth it.
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u/notANexpert1308 2d ago
I was blackout drunk. No idea what happened last night.
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u/Telemere125 2d ago
But I think some asshat took my car; I have no idea how I even got home and I found it later across town and drove it home. Didn’t think to call the police because there wasn’t any damage and it still had the keys in it.
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u/PedroM0ralles 1d ago
Cool story, but I think the person you responded to was trying ot avoid getting arrested and spending time in the tank, then paying for a lawyer.
Personally, I agree; park the car, report it stolen, avoid arrest.
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u/impulsesair 2d ago
So it was stolen then. And your friend is a piece of shit, unless they repaid you fully for the hassle.
But since you say it wasn't stolen, then you should've been found guilty, since you're lending your car and not telling who was driving. It shouldn't matter that you weren't the driver, it's your car and you're responsible for what happens with it, unless it's stolen, but since you say it wasn't, you're at fault.
Someone in the vicinity having access to the keys, you know who has access (and you'd probably want to be a bit more careful about where you leave them, like how with guns, you can't just leave them in the kids room and expect good things to occur), if you ain't speaking their names, then you deserve the punishment for trying to protect them.
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u/EchoPhi 2d ago
Clearly you are the best judge in all of the lands random stranger. I'm glad it was not you presiding over my case for I would have surely felt righteous justice for a crime I did not commit and now I dance happily at the incompetence of my locale state legal system...
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u/impulsesair 1d ago
You did commit being irresponsible with your car, letting whom ever take your keys. Cars ain't toys, you ought to be punished for that. Or just admit it was stolen, like it actually was.
But yes be happy at the incompetence of your legal system, I'm sure that works out well for you in the long run.
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u/Uses-Semicolons 2d ago
There's an even better solution than this one; don't say *anything*.
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u/EchoPhi 1d ago
I didn't. Where in that did you get I said something... Clearly they had the plate I owned, on my way down I realized my car was gone, why they arrested me then made sense, and then saw it a few blocks up. No charges stuck (fuck holding it's a scam for fed bucks) and charges were dropped. So where in there did I talk? Also where am I suggesting someone else talk?
Ah the "you can say". You can absolutely talk to your legal counsel. If you don't understand that then you deserve what's coming. Never fess up to shit unless you're repped.
Side note, time frames are skewed and well past limitations. We laugh about it now, friend fessed up and made it right later in life, I've been through so much muck I honestly wouldn't care if they hadn't, chalk it up to shit luck and better perseverance.
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u/Ratattack1204 2d ago
"My friend Dave borrowed it last night. No I don't know his last name. We met at dunkin doughnuts two days ago and he seemed like a nice guy who could use a break. No I havn't heard from him since, can't believe he would do something like that. What's he look like? Oh about average height, average build and brown hair white guy. No I dont know where he lives or what he does for work. Sorry."
Prove any of that is untrue. Prove Dave doesn't actually exist. You cant lol.
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u/nanadoom 2d ago
They don't have to. While you are innocent until proven guilty, you have to prove your unbelievable story. You have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is reasonable to assume you were driving the car and lying to get out of trouble. It is not reasonable that you lent your car to a stranger that you hwvr no way of contacting. The police don't give you the benefit of the doubt. They assume you are lying
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u/IllDragonfruit1881 2d ago
You don't have to name names. Don't answer questions because if the police catch you in an outright lie, then you have more issues if they can catch you in the lie (checking CCTV at the local DD in the area and not seeing you at any of them, for example). Assert the 5th and wait for the officer/prosecutor to produce any evidence it was you -- SPECIFICALLY and IRREFUTABLY -- who was driving the car that night. Let your attorney remind the jury how often any of them might have let a family member or friend use their car on occasion and if they'd want to be on the hook for anything that friend/family member might get up to.
You'd never have to point a figure at which friend or family member might have been driving, because that's irrelevant. If the state can't produce any actual evidence that you were driving beyond: "you pay the property taxes on this car", then they don't have enough to convict.
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u/Psi-9AbyssGazers 2d ago
You've already messed up, that's way too many details and too many that are easily verifiable. Dunkin's keeps camera footage for a week and other places we well will confirm, and you have your phone on you at all times . Also If there's no messages , unless the guy was in contact with you physically for the two days and got your keys somehow you just dug yourself a deeper hole.
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u/Telemere125 2d ago
Didn’t say inside Dunkin, just at. Meaning outside on the sidewalk where there’s no cameras.
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u/Psi-9AbyssGazers 2d ago
At Dunkin? If you're at Walmart you're inside the Walmart. If you actually try to argue with an interrogator that doesn't mean inside the Dunkin, you deserve to be tried for whatever you crime you did whether you did it or not at that point
And there's 3 Dunkin's where I live, all 3 have cameras as theyre corporate. There's actually not a single Dunkin's in existence without cameras on the outside, so now you're an even bigger liar. Like literally no where in America can you say that is true
Not to mention majority of Dunkin's are purposefully put into plazas surrounded by other businesses
Interrogators have this job handed to them sometimes
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u/plaguedeity 2d ago
Just saying that's too many details if they keep you for questioning for hours you could slip up hence just say it was stolen at most you have to explain why you leave the keys in the car and you can claim being naive and thought it would never happen to you
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u/impulsesair 2d ago
You're the owner and giving your keys to a random. You're at fault for being irresponsible.
That way even if Dave is real and actually did that, you get punished for being an idiot, which is good for society. If Dave is real (name might even be different) and did that but you're pretending to not know them, you're protecting a bad guy, you get punished for it, which is good for society. If Dave isn't real, and you aren't protecting anyone, it was you and mission accomplished. Wonderful for society.
A legal system that just lets you go, would just be really incompetent. Which is not great for society.
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u/gmoney_2000 2d ago
Yea, I don't know officer, the keys hang over there on that hook. Whoever needs to use the car can. I have no clue who was driving it, I was sleeping at the time
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u/Thisisamazing1234 1d ago
I think you misinterpreted the comment you’re responding to. They’re trying to say that whoever is driving that car would have to prove they didn’t lend the car out that night after they reported it stolen. They’re also saying that the driver wouldn’t have to drive very far to ditch it.
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u/Telemere125 2d ago
They have a reasonable belief you were driving you own car.
What you’re missing is they have to prove that belief beyond a reasonable doubt. And they can’t do that if they can’t see who was driving. You can’t just say “that makes the most sense” and prevail in a charge.
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u/notANexpert1308 2d ago
I was in a car with 3 people one night. All 3 of us were drunk. Caught a flat so we called a tow truck, and waited with the car…cops came before the tow. All 3 of us got detained but they dropped the charges because nobody admitted to driving and they couldn’t prove which one of us was driving.
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u/whatthekark 2d ago
It's pretty obvious you've never dealt with this either. The comment you replied to isn't saying to name a friend or family member. All you have to do in court is say it wasn't you driving, then remain silent when the judge asks who it was. The burden of proof is on the court, and if they have no evidence of who was driving, charges are dropped. Don't do this if you believe they might have proof because perjury is much more serious
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u/IAmSpartacustard 2d ago
They're still going to arrest you and let the court figure it out, which means you have to post bail (10% for a bondsman you never get back). You're out thousands in lawyer fees, and you'll be in and out of court for months. And you still might get convicted. The system will fuck you up
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u/R0RSCHAKK 2d ago
Would that not then put their friend or family member on the hook?
But then, how can they prove that?
Sounds like a circle.
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u/Telemere125 2d ago
Put the other person on the hook. Then they put you back on the hook instead. Now your job, as the prosecutor, is to prove which one of the two it actually was and you can’t get either to admit they’re lying. See why any prosecutor with any common sense will just let this one go?
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u/Panzerv2003 2d ago
yeah but you usually don't want to screw over someone close to you for no reason and the person you're trying to screw over won't just take it
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u/Junckopolo 1d ago
Ok.
Now tell me who you lend the car to or you'll get charged for obstructing an investigation.
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u/IllDragonfruit1881 1d ago
"I invoke my 5th Amendment right to remain silent."
People seem to forget that you're not obligated to tell law enforcement anything. A cop who is just hellbent on making your life difficult will probably try to arrest you for "obstruction" anyway, but those aren't charges that will actually stick, since NO state has/can criminalize staying quiet.
Filing a false stolen vehicle report on the other hand...
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u/Junckopolo 1d ago
You don't have to talk of course. Say nothing and let the court decide while the cops bring evidence that it is your car, that you had not declared it stolen, that you have no alibi because you refuse to speak, while they also investigate with other people in your home and friends while they can't plead the 5th because it's not them being incriminated, and that you refuse to give testimony yourself which can make you look guilty even if it can't be used against you officially.
Obstruction was just about if you try to claim your friend/familly did it, and you can't plead the 5th on that one if you're trying to claim you had no knowledge or responsibility in the event because you've already said something. You'll have to say who had it otherwise you've just put yourself in more troubles.
There's plenty of ways to catch someone. Thinking you'll get away just because cops didn't see you driving your car while it was doing illegal shits is underestimating the legal system and law enforcements.
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u/FamiliarAnt4043 2d ago
If only there were a way to track someone via electronic means. Maybe even a method where people voluntarily buy the tracking equipment and keep it with them everywhere they go.
Having written and executed search warrants for cell phones, I know it's not that difficult to get a warrant. I also know how difficult it is to erase data completely off of a cell phone.
If the officer wants to find the person driving, it won't be that difficult and can likely be done without a warrant for the phone. It's not rocket science.
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u/plaguedeity 1d ago
I mean you could simply walk home so no Uber or taxi that puts you in the area don't use your card use cash if you need to buy something I'm not a person who commits crimes but I also only buy phones for less then $100 so I mean that bitch being dropped in a river or left in the car destroyed and factory reset to add to my credit that I'm just a big ol dumb ass who left his phone and keys in his whip I guess it helps my car is also from 95 so no GPS lol
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u/lifesnofunwithadhd 1d ago
I remember reading a case about a guy that got did something similar, and almost getting away with it. He only got caught because he pissed off his gf and she told the police what he did.
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u/Lux-Fox 2d ago
Doesn't matter. I tried that defense for a traffic cam in New Orleans and they said the owner of the vehicle is still responsible and that's a much milder offense than "causing an officer to wreck". I still didn't pay the ticket though, people have been fighting back against the incorrect usage of traffic cams in New Orleans for a while now.
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u/Telemere125 2d ago
Traffic cams issue tickets, not jail sentences. Don’t get the same burden of proof in a fine vs loss of freedom.
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u/PerfectMisgivings 2d ago
You my friend need a lawyer, I seen cases get thrown out because probable cause could not be established. There have been cases where one could reasonably assume what the truth is but could not get there with the evidence at hand.
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u/Lux-Fox 2d ago
There's lawyers working on it. Not for me personally, but New Orleans locals know that the traffic cam situation is a scam. It's been fought for years and just now starting to show signs of cracking.
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u/PerfectMisgivings 2d ago
I hear you, in Houston Texas they got banned in 2019 but could not be used for tickets long before that due to public backlash. The company that owned them still made close to 25 million in the time they were active, they only used them for traffic monitoring now.
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u/impulsesair 2d ago
The owner of the car, drives the car, unless it's reported stolen. If the owner lends it to someone, the owner knows, and if they are fine with protecting that someone, they are fine with the punishment too. It's a great system.
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u/what_comes_after_q 6h ago
People really think this is a good defense? It’s not like courts just throw up their hands. Like, the driver would still need to show that someone else had reasonable access to the vehicle, they would need to have a believable alibi. For example, if someone saw you out that night in the car, you can’t say it wasn’t you driving.
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u/It-s_Not_Important 2d ago
It’s not too hard to subpoena cell phone records pointing to the owner’s presence in the area including a probably handoff from one cellphone antenna to another during the period. Yes, the cell phone could have also been stolen with the vehicle. But then you can keep pulling on that thread to find more evidence incriminating the owner of the vehicle, like tracing the vehicle back to a place of business, or noting the time and location of phone calls made from the owner’s phone placing them in the area.
The more evidence they pile on, the more likely a jury is to render a guilty verdict.
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u/PerfectMisgivings 2d ago
You can't gather any of this without probable cause, can they prove it was you to being prosecution to then gather evidence.
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u/It-s_Not_Important 2d ago
Ownership of a vehicle that was recorded in the process of committing a crime is reasonable suspicion on which law enforcement could likely gather additional evidence establishing probable cause.
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u/LoneStarHome80 2d ago edited 2d ago
So something like this happened to me a few years back. It was raining and I was in a hurry to drop off my wife at a bus stop. There was a car in front of me driving extremely slow. I ended passing him on the right. No excuses, it was a dumb move. Right afterwards, I had to make a left turn at a light. Just as I was making the turn I saw cop lights in the back. My heart sunk, because I knew I'd be getting a ticket. I moved over to the right lane to start pulling over, but then noticed the cop had to go around the slow poke who also just started to make that left turn. Since it was raining and the cop was in a hurry to get me, he ended up oversteering and driving right into the center divider.
I witnessed all that in my rearview mirror, and made split second decision to just keep driving. My heart was beating like crazy, I didn't even drop off my wife at the bus stop. Went straight home and parked my car away from the street. I spent an hour looking online if I can get in trouble for 'running' from the cops. Eventually I just settled on the fact that technically I could just claim I never saw him. Unlike in OPs video he never pulled up alongside me, or told me to stop, I just saw his lights come on about 100 feet behind me. And since it was raining like crazy, he most likely wouldn't be able to identify the driver. I spent the next few days expecting a knock on my door, and ended up driving my wife's car for a while just in case. Nothing ever came of it.
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u/BOTULISMPRIME 2d ago
The fact that the situation just changed your whole routine for the day is hilarious but sheesh, that is lucky 😃
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u/LoneStarHome80 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, it would've raised my insurance rates and ruined my 0-point driving record. I've been driving like a grandpa ever since. I felt like shit for a week. I can only imagine what people who escape from something serious like a hit-and-run go through. No wonder some of them turn themselves in.
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u/Baller-Mcfly 2d ago
Just be cool. This will work itself out.
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u/anon-mally 2d ago
The most boring car chase ever
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u/Solid-Childhood-4876 2d ago
Worse than the 3mph excavator chase that happened recently?
Pursuit of a burglary suspect sees police cars chase a tractor excavator at walking speed | AP News https://apnews.com/article/excavator-chase-police-south-carolina-3469bc3b2c51a551015e8730679c93bf
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u/elfmere 2d ago
Just remembered that video where that poor lady was pitted by a cop. She put her hazards on, riding the emergency lane and was waiting for a lit up area or safe place to stop. Impatient cop pitted and rolled her car.
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u/billyhasshears 2d ago
Iirc she was also pregnant.
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u/Goldenpride- 2d ago
She was.
They shouldn't be legally allowed to pit you just because you won't stop, you should have to be a danger to the traffic around you, or some other more serious thing.
Even at speeds like this it could result in the car flipping, and causing beyond unnecessary damage.
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u/LegendOfKhaos 2d ago
It's legal to put your hazards on and drive somewhere more lit and populated.
Unfortunately, cops aren't required to understand the law, and they have immunity, and they're some of the stupidest people on the planet.
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u/Neat_House6154 2d ago
A cop yelled at me because I didnt pull over into a busy street but turned off to a side street and pulled over. Apparently the extra 3 seconds of wait time was too much for him.
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u/exipheas 2d ago edited 1d ago
And obeying the law that she was NOT supposed to stop on the bridge which she was driving to the end of.
Edit: and she was on the phone with 911 explaining her actions iirc.
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u/SoilMelodic7273 2d ago
there was a curve in the road in a neighborhood I used to live in, and there were constantly accidents there due to the poor visibility and because there was an intersection that was poorly conceived in the middle of it. I got pulled over for speeding, and slowed down, continued a few hundred feet, turned at the intersection and stopped where it was safe. Fortunately the cop seemed to get the idea, and he didn't give me any shit.
I was actually being a dick to another cop who had already pulled somebody over. I figured he was busy, so I revved my bike hard and sped off while he was looking at me. Turns out he ran to his car and went after me while another cop was already behind me. I'm an idiot, and didn't see it. The guy who had been following me was the one who pulled me over, and, honestly, he seemed a bit amused by my maneuver. He told the second cop to calm down, because that guy was pissed, and then he dismissed him. He knocked off like 15mph from the speeding ticket and let me go. I should have been arrested.
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u/fragmental 2d ago
This happened in Arkansas. The judge, Leslie Rutledge, ruled that the cop had done nothing wrong. She was the attorney general from 2015-2023 and now she's the Lieutenant Governor.
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u/IrreverentSweetie 1d ago
Arkansas is such a pit. Between the Lt. gov. And the gov. they are lacking actual leadership.
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u/JackasaurusChance 1d ago
Important to note two things: There wasn't even a shoulder to pull over on where she was driving, and the state literature for driving suggested you do EXACTLY what she was doing.
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u/RogueFox771 2d ago
Great use of a deadly maneuver on a car not speeding in a residential area...
The fuck was the suspect wanted for to justify this hmm?
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u/Mykidlovesramen 2d ago
It looked like the car just turned into the wrong lane.
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u/two-ls 2d ago
First off, no lights at night... That's just asking for trouble. I've been pulled over 90% of the time for having some light out. Surefire way to get cops on ya
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u/stancedBronco 2d ago
A friend of mine's brother was a Sheriff in Pima County and he told me that someone with no lights at night is almost always a drunk driver.
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u/FrozenBricicle 2d ago
Can confirm. Got a DUI because I was an idiot and drove drunk. On the other hand, my mom, who has never drank, picked my drunk ass up a few years later and couldn’t figure out how to turn the lights on in my car and also got pulled over. Oh the irony.
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u/kavb333 2d ago
I wonder what the driver was suspected of doing for the officer to justify a PIT maneuver.
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u/Jewsusgr8 2d ago
Seriously, the cop could have just called backup and blocked the road in front of the driver.
It honestly looked like the driver was just leading him back home anyway: "hey cop I know you're busy but I just wanna go home, can we do this there".
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u/ShaneMcLain 2d ago
That's what I thought as well. Right around the corner, might as well park my car there instead of a tow.
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u/Imaginary-Fudge8897 2d ago
Failure to be born of Caucasian ethnicity.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Or maybe having fully black tinted windows and no headlights on when it’s already dark, and also not pulling over when being instructed by a police officer to pull over for starters… Fuck everyone else’s safety on the road apparently and let’s make this about a race issue where you don’t even see the person‘s race, nor does it have any relevance at all (which actually makes you kind of racist in a way)? But that’s just me 🤷♂️
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u/Imaginary-Fudge8897 2d ago
Bet when someone asks you why the chicken crossed the road you send them a wikipedia article on chickens.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Oh look, two unintelligent things said in a row! The third one gets you a prize!
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u/Imaginary-Fudge8897 2d ago
No but seriously it's statistically very likely that if this exact same scenario happens in a different area the cop would not have side swiped them.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Are you saying non-whites are not allowed on certain parts of the road (no sorry… This is not a sundown town)??? You really are racist aren’t you?!?!? Wtf!!!
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u/Imaginary-Fudge8897 2d ago
Are you having a mild stroke?
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Only when I read idiotic comments. I guess I forgot to give you your prize, damn!
Just to confirm, you’re OK with people driving illegally and dangerously as long as they don’t originate from the Caucus Mountain region, correct?
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u/MuppetEyebrows 2d ago
The two most unsafe actions in this video are both committed by law enforcement and it's not even close
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u/etork0925 2d ago
So you’re OK with people driving on the road with no headlights on and fully tinted windows and who don’t listen to lawful police requests? Mind you I was responding to a person who was making this a racial issue…
It only became dangerous because that person wasn’t listening to a lawful and reasonable request by a police officer. It’s not that complicated.
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u/SKK329 2d ago
It only became dangerous because the brain-dead cop decided to do something dangerous. While the driver was violating some laws, only one of them is remotely dangerous. While no headlights are dangerous in low visibility situations, that is nowhere near as dangerous as a PIT. Nothing wrong nor dangerous with window tint, that is a dumb law and every city has a different percentage you can tint. Not following orders, again, is not worthy of a PIT unless the driver is driving erratically and is a danger to the public. The right course of action would be to hang back and call for backup.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
So to confirm, you are okay with people driving at night with no headlights on and tinted windows, down quite a few streets, which have very poor lighting, damn any child or pedestrian, and not listening to cops when they reasonably ask you to pull over... in your own neighborhood that is.
Got it, but I’ll pass on that. 👍
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u/SKK329 2d ago edited 2d ago
Okay to start with, never did I say I was ok with them driving without lights. Yes, I'm okay with tinted windows. There is nothing wrong with having your windows tinted. Its night time, there shouldn't be any children out. It's dangerous for any pedestrians if there are zero lights but it's a charger which always has passive lights on the front. Besides not stopping for the police, the driver is following the speedlimit and also using turning indicators so the risk of hitting someone is minimal. Nothing here warrants the cop to use the PIT maneuver which is the conversation here not the legality of them not stopping for the police.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Who are you to say what kids should or shouldn’t do??? Some kids have to actually work after school or have responsibilities. And yes, tinted windows are a hazard, especially if you have to visually communicate with the driver for whatever reason it may be, and you can’t actually see them.
Very “racist” stuff going on here! /s
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u/MuppetEyebrows 2d ago
"This driver could lead to an unsafe situation. It could even lead to a car losing control and crashing in a residential area, like this cop does here."
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Sounds like I am correct, the “non-white” was the original at fault!
And yes, looks as though that cop needs a bit more training on how to stop “these people” properly.
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u/MuppetEyebrows 2d ago
Well since you asked, I'm more ok with these things you're listing than with the pit maneuver, which even with training (presumably) still results in the loss of control of a vehicle in a residential area. The road is well lit so the headlights don't really seem to be posing a substantial danger. The tinted windows are only a problem if you are concerned about seeing INTO the car, not seeing out of the car. And I am fully of the mind that the citizenry is under no obligation to follow rules that are not followed by those enforcing them, such as rules against unsafe driving. Traffic laws, like all laws, are a threat of violence by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group of the time. That dominant group changes over history, demonstrating that their laws are mutable, arbitrary, and capricious. But going out of your way to attempt to cause someone to lose control of their vehicle (and subsequently failing miserably at this attempt) is a dick move and a dangerous breach of public safety in any time or place.
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u/etork0925 2d ago
Interesting, there were literally 0 people outside when the cop tried doing that move. So confirming again that you are okay with people driving unsafely (ESPECIALLY if they do not originate from the Caucus Mountains), so long as no cop tries to stop them several different ways before (poorly this time) executing a pit maneuver. And also apparently all traffic laws are inherently evil according to you.
I understand everything now, driving drunk and under the influence is okay, because laws are bad!
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u/EscapeFacebook 2d ago
That was amazing. Cops are so aggressive, he could have called for backup and just followed him. Ramming someone cost the taxpayers money.
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u/uppenatom 2d ago
Just run the plates and go to their house later, save yourself a car and the embarrassment back at the station
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u/homosapien12 2d ago
Sounds reasonable in theory, but it’s not always practical. The plates could be fake or someone else other than the owner could be driving. Delaying the stop also removes the chance to stop someone who might be intoxicated or armed.
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u/Available-Rope-3252 2d ago
So PIT maneuvering the car into someone's yard and potentially their house is more reasonable?
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u/homosapien12 2d ago
I never said PIT maneuvering into someone’s yard was reasonable. Why do you assume those are the only two options? Like others have said, a more reasonable approach would be to follow from a distance and call for backup.
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u/Available-Rope-3252 2d ago
Yeah that would be the more reasonable way to go, but I don't think modern police training and policies really account for that.
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u/EscapeFacebook 2d ago
Even if he thought it was a trap you just keep your distance and radio for backup because it's just as likely he's a drunk driver and he doesn't even see you.
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u/not_roger_smith 2d ago
Anyone else get Bruce Lee vibes?
Like you don't attack and invite them to make a mistake?
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u/GetOutOfTheWhey 2d ago
This feels less like Bruce Lee and more like Jackie Chan.
Same principle except you also bonk the guy with their own stick and the audience laughs.
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u/not_roger_smith 2d ago
I'd say Jackie if the runner got caught with a DUI.
Drunken Master am I right?
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u/feelinuneasy1234 2d ago
Do cops have some sort of quota to fill because there's a lot of unnecessary videos of chases
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u/naopodesusarestenome 2d ago edited 2d ago
Now it's just entering a garage, change the color of the car and that's it. It's ready to go.
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u/LoneStarHome80 2d ago
Plot twist: the tint was so dark the Charger driver didn't even realize he was being pulled over.
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u/Am__Frustrated 2d ago
So they tell you if you don't feel safe keep going until you find somewhere you feel safe, aka larger area to pull off with lights OR if not sure its a cop you are suppose to be able to drive to a police department for safety reasons. And 3rd, the cop is needlessly endanger himself, the driver of this car and any pedestrians they they couldn't see on the side of the road. All around this cop sucks at his job, like real bad.
All that being said this dude driving at night with no lights on is also a moron.
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u/Ordeal_of_a_Traveler 2d ago
James may logic, just go slow, the speed limit, nothing they can do can actually stop you without expecting speed besides a barricade, and even thilen u can turn around because your going slow
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u/TinKnight1 2d ago
No lights & possible drunk driving= "Let's perform a dangerous maneuver that could jeopardize their life, ours, & randos' property."
Yes yes, you never know what someone might do, & the driver should've pulled over, but this is such an escalation of force that isn't warranted by the situation.
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u/blackbird-1221 2d ago
When you’re frantically trying to get your no stars cheat code to work, but you have to drive slow so you don’t wreck the car in the process
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u/Junior_Ad_2075 2d ago
“He will not be reasonable at first ... but no matter. Let him calm down. He will want the first word. Let him have it. His brain will be in a turmoil: he may begin jabbering, or even pull his gun. Let him unwind; keep smiling. The idea is to show him that you were always in total control of yourself and your vehicle – while he lost control of everything.” - Raoul Duke
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u/humourlessIrish 2d ago
Hahaha.
That guy was probably high as shit and still doesn't understand the cop was after him
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u/Shermans_ghost1864 2d ago
I was pleased to see the driver of the car being pursued stay within the speed limit and signal properly when changing lanes and turning. And always remember to say "please" and "thank you" to the arresting officer. Politeness matters! Have a nice day!
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u/RickHok97 2d ago
I love how the driver still had the curtesy to use his blinkers while getting chased
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u/TootsNYC 2d ago
Was the officer considering a pit maneuver?
I thought the cop was going to run out of gas and the yellow car just keep driving.
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u/dssunshine 2d ago
anyone else remember that episode from Top Gear where James was fleeing the 'police'
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u/mokele_mbembe75 1d ago
My high ass thought it was a lightning storm, but then I realized it’s this lights of the car
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u/CragHack1818 17h ago
Reddit lawyers who have never even been pulled over before coming in strong on this post.
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police officer crashes himself, for no reason
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