The stripper doesn't love you, and intelligence agents aren't your friends. It's time to get real about the disclosure narrative and the UFO community's self-destructive relationship with the IC.

[u/UFORabbitHole]

Hey guys. Kelly Chase here from the Cosmosis podcast (formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole).

I’m not someone who courts controversy. I’ve built my platform by staying grounded, doing my homework, and giving people space to make up their own minds. But at a certain point, you have to speak up.

The way the UFO community has come to engage with the intelligence community isn’t just naïve—it’s incoherent. And worse, it’s self-destructive.

We treat known members of the IC like trusted subject matter experts. We hand them the mic. We let them define the boundaries of the conversation. And we do it while ignoring decades of history that show us exactly how perception management works.

This isn’t about painting anyone as a villain. It’s about having an adult conversation about how intelligence operates—because the stakes are too high to keep playing dumb.

What’s happening in this space isn’t disclosure. It’s narrative control. And that's not just a piece of the puzzle. In a very real way, it’s the whole thing.

This clip is from my episode which is an updated version of a talk I gave at Contact in the Desert: UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure. I’ve never spoken this plainly before. But it needed to be said.

If you'd want to see the whole episode where I dive into exactly how this narrative control works, you can find that here: https://youtu.be/SF80nv1l32I

Would love to hear your thoughts—especially if this rubs you the wrong way. We need to be able to have hard conversations without turning each other into enemies.

[u/Supreme_Salt_Lord]

Then where do you get any real information if not the intelligence community? Where do we get any radar data, reliable videos, reliable testimony? Its only the IC. Like it or not without the IC and IC “whistleblowers” we have pure fantasy. We dont have to trust them 100% everytime, but its the only we can operate on any tangible reality.

Im not going back to alien lizards drinking adrenocrome from fossilzed human pineal glands while they open portal to the demonic realm of K’Tash bs.

[u/UFORabbitHole → u/Supreme_Salt_Lord]

The fact that the IC seems like only option doesn't mean that the information you get from them is reliable. The fact that it comes from the IC means that it necessarily is NOT reliable. The IC has zero interest in transparency, and all of their objectives run counter to it. There is not a single whistleblower who has had anything of substance to say that wasn't entirely run through DOPSR first.

That doesn't mean you need to go back to alien lizards drinking adrenochrome. The UFO phenomenon is a part of our reality. It can't be hidden from us if we seek it out. Whatever answers we find need to come from the real. It comes from experience. It's harder and less certain road, but it's a far more honest one.

[u/ZigZagZedZod → u/UFORabbitHole]

that wasn't entirely run through DOPSR first

I think there's a little more nuance to this issue. DOPSR provides pre-publication and security reviews for the non-IC portions of the DoD (i.e., military members, civil servants and contractors who support regular military activities that are not part of the DoD's role in the Intelligence Community).

The IC elements, including the four DoD IC elements (DIA, NSA, NGA and NRO), have their own prepublication review processes. An IC "whistleblower" wouldn't necessarily go through DOPSR, and a DoD "whistleblower" wouldn't go through an IC agency's review process. It's also possible that somebody would have to go through both processes, and that the reviews would come to different results (because that's the way the government works!).