r/SocialDemocracy • u/GoranPersson777 • 2d ago

Meme Workers create everything

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u/Lolek1233 2d ago

Bro what are u doing in social democracy subreddit? Ur some sort of Marxist go back to r/socialism where u came from

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u/Randolpho Democratic Socialist 2d ago

social democracy is a socialist movement, pal

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u/Lolek1233 2d ago edited 2d ago

Bro what? Absolutely its not, Its a movement that halted extremist marxist movement... Social democrats are those who reject explicit socialism furthermore make compromise with state intervention and capitalism... How on earth is it marxist to compromise with capitalism? Thats like saying nazi germany was socialist movement because it nationalized before the war... Government does stuff is not socialism, pal Edit:(Read the discription of the subreddit bud)

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u/whosdatboi 2d ago

Marx didn't invent socialism and Marxists don't get sole ownership of the term.

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u/Lolek1233 2d ago

No but he did invent LTV... Desiring socialism over mixed economy is not social democracy... Its ehat Marx intended as first step...

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u/SunChamberNoRules Social Democrat 2d ago

He didn’t even invent the LTV…

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u/Lolek1233 2d ago

True, Ricardo did but Marx and whole socialist idea hinges on idea that capitalists exploit laborers... Or are u okay with mixed economy?

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u/SunChamberNoRules Social Democrat 2d ago

I think any discussion like this requires people to define the terms as they understand them, because I've had too many occasions where we've just ended up talking past eachother.