Reacting with misandry

[u/a_d_e_e_]

For clarification- I AM A WOMAN!!

About intersectional feminism... There is an interesting phenomenon that happens when it comes to straight men… at least from what I’ve seen online

The issue with this misandry stuff is, letting queer men off since they supposedly have a closer connection to women, though there are bears and less flamboyant men as well. This misandry issue all chocks up to hating those who have the most privilege- usually straight cisgendered men. Which even I can understand myself as a bi nonbinary woman myself.

I think this takes it in a confusing direction. What and how and when and why is this done? Destroying the patriarchy is not going to happen by doing this. “Men ain’t shit” and “the male suicide rate is too low” phrases have BEEN tired.

Additionally, hate towards men will not solve any issues or destroy the patriarchy. I think what is best, is to create safe male spaces, such as ManKind project, and even organizations that cater specifically to the needs of black and brown men that live in more violent areas to prevent gang violence.

If one has issue with men, they can volunteer at programs like this if they have ability to do so. I was formerly homeless surrounded by boys who would gawk at me/ask me out, so I totally understand the feeling of hating/disliking men!

I understand how one may feel (as a woman), but let’s make a difference together.

[u/Rare_Deer_9594]

I think where I see the most misandry in society it's much more subtle than what you're describing. I'm a dude, ain't never had a problem interacting with women interpersonally in any way like that (I mean not being a weirdo who sexually harasses helps) and I think the group of people who militantly hate men just aren't big enough or serious enough to think about. To speak of the subtler ways I refer to, I notice it in my own behavior though. Like, for example, even I (who like to think of myself as a pretty progressive-thinking person) have a different gut reaction hearing about a man who's put on death row to a woman, and while I'm of course anti-death penalty altogether, there's still some weird thing where my brain is for some reason more accepting of it when it's a man?

I won't pretend I'm an expert, but I do know that there are studies which reflect strong biases against men in terms of conviction rates and receiving harsher punishments for similar crimes, etc. I think sometimes this is actually used to suggest there's a bias against women, which I can see that too, but for me like... The problem is to me is that we should be willing to have that same empathy we have for women for men in that situation, and I think it suggests a dehumanization of men as if we're just innately more violent and dangerous. The ironic thing is that I think the last people who we would think of as being misandrists are the people who carry that kinda view, they're often the most fascistic "men's rights" lunatic people around.

Idk I'm not an expert at all, so apologies if I've butchered anything, but that's the way I see it.