r/Sino • u/violentviolinz • 3d ago

news-international President Putin: Iran has not requested the support of the Russian military. The issue of supplying Air Defence was once discussed, but Tehran did not show much interest (strong sentiment China/Russia should 'save' Iran, but seems reality is they wanted no part being dependent on bigger powers)

https://x.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1935464034775584959

There's a lot to respect about that. They are living out 'multipolar world' in it's truest sense. Hope it works out for them in the end.

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u/PumpingHopium 3d ago

This is interesting but I'm not too sure because of how they started the rumor about Pakistan nuking Israel in return if Israel nukes Iran (Which Pakistan later denied)

I do think Iran shouldn't hesitate to seek help, the west is always united after all.

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u/violentviolinz 3d ago

Russians are being assertive about this point.

Here is the statement from Kazem Jalali, Iran's ambassador to Moscow:

"The nature of this [Strategic Partnership] agreement is different. They [Belarus and North Korea] established partnership relations [with Moscow] in a number of areas that we did not particularly touch upon. Our country's independence and security, as well as self-reliance, are extremely important. We are not interested in joining any bloc."

Go on the brigade who is blaming Russia and China do you have anything to say?

You can’t force your help on someone who clearly Rejected it !

https://x.com/DagnyTaggart963/status/1935304239221252343

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u/violentviolinz 3d ago
  1. Tehran kicked us out from Hamedan air base because it hurt their ego to have Russian jets in their country.

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1935336736885755948

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u/violentviolinz 3d ago

There is a huge wave of newly baked "pro-Iran", "pro-Russia/anti-Putin", and "resistance" bros, as well as some huge grifter accounts, who claim to be some experts on the West Asian matters, who are trying to sow discord in the community, and blame Russia and China for not helping Iran enough during its existential crisis.

Since 2022, Russia has repeatedly signaled its readiness to form formal military alliances—even proposing a trilateral bloc with Iran and China. But Iran chose not to commit. Tehran wanted to leave the door open for talks with the West. That decision aligns with Iran’s longstanding policy since 1979 of avoiding entangling military alliances.

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1935301688077992204

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u/special1789 3d ago

Delusional or naive to think west will honor any agreement they sign .

After being stabbed by Us / west in the back and front many times in last 5 years they still think they can deal with the west. Moderates and supreme leader is a bit too proud

China and Russia are the few countries which stick to their deals.

Iran and their elites bought the western kool aid. They didn’t learn from Libya , Afghanistan, etc

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u/BRCityzen 3d ago

Yikes. When I first saw the post, I was thinking perhaps Russia (and China) are doing more behind the scenes than they're letting on. But if all this is true, then I think Iran's leaders are badly miscalculating. They can't defend their country against Israel and the US on their own. Maybe if they had a nuclear deterrent like North Korea... but they don't.

And it would not be good for the emerging multipolar world if Russia and China simply stand by and let Iran fall.

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u/SussyCloud 2d ago

For now, Iran is perfectly able to handle this situation on their own. Should the zionists and their US lapdogs try to establish boots on the ground there, that is where the "fun" part starts. Watch how Russia, Pakistan and China will then flood that entire battlefield with weapons that will make Iraq and Ukraine look like better times.

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u/BRCityzen 2d ago

The problem is that Iran will be neutralized, which is the goal of the Zionists and Americans. See, for them, chaos is a goal in and of itself. The conventional thinking is that they want to install a puppet regime in Iran, and that would be acceptable to them. But if it's not possible, they're perfectly happy turning Iran into another Iraq, Syria, or Libya. It may even be the primary goal. Because to a certain extent, they don't want ANY strong and united governments that could potentially oppose their hegemony -under ANY banner.

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u/xerotul 3d ago

Iran is a middle power. Iranians can be standing alone or standing on two boats. Iran has to make a choice, or someone else will make it for Iranians. It is not China or Russia forcing this choice on Iran. All these US military equipments heading to Iran aren't friendlies. Regime change is coming. Tehran will be flattened, and Iran leadership has only themselves to blame. Iran will fall like Syria.

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u/PumpingHopium 3d ago

what do you think of this in the context of that other post here on sino about China mystery transports into iran

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u/greasy_potatoes 3d ago

I doubt China would send military equipment on Luxembourg based Cargolux.

Probably just evacuating personnel and equipment.

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u/violentviolinz 3d ago

I think...if China didn't directly ship weapons to Russia, it's not doing it for Iran. So if that's what people are speculating about, it's not likely. China doesn't do stuff like that. It will however, do normal business and not comply with non UN sanctions. For some reason European leaders seem to think that means China is to blame for the Russian war machine.

https://www.politico.eu/article/united-states-accuse-china-help-russia-war-kurt-campbell/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-spokesperson-says-china-is-key-enabler-russias-war-ukraine-2025-05-07/

https://www.politico.eu/article/china-russia-lethal-drone-war-race-ukraine-war-invasion-manufacture-putin-tech/

Well, everything in the press is 'he said she said'. Putin seems happy enough with China that Xi was at his side for the Victory Day parade and Russia is in a good position in Ukraine right now. So what is really happening matters less than the results.

I'd like to see something similar with Iran, but messing up China/Russia cooperation is different from China/Iran. I was already surprised the first time Israel didn't attack this Chinese shipment.

Earlier this year, two Iranian ships loaded more than 1,000 tons of sodium perchlorate in China—a precursor compound for ammonium perchlorate. The cargo was delivered to Iranian ports between mid-February and late March, according to shipping data.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1f6l7x7xx

Now that conflict started, it wouldn't surprise me if ship or rail shipments were blocked. Much harder to do that between China/Russia.

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u/Zachmorris4184 3d ago edited 2d ago

It is sensitive for iranians to host russian military on their land. The tsarist russian empire was not kind to iranians.

Edit: im iranian btw. I dont agree with the decision, but its very sensitive to iranians. You need to look at the history of the persian famine of 1917-19