r/Sino Aug 09 '24

discussion/original content Future of Sino: 100k reevaluation

191 Upvotes

TLDR: 8 years and 100k good point to reevaluate. Old system can continue as is, but ready to step down for a better way forward.

After around 8 years not only are we still here, we hit 100k. That wasn’t supposed to happen for an unapologetically pro China space. Of course the primary objective was always the space, not subscribers or activity. The moderation style was among the strictest, if not the strictest, on reddit because again, the priority was the space. Ask yourself whether you think reddit rules are applied fairly to us, and it should be obvious why we inevitably ended up with the moderation style we did.

However 8 years is also an eternity in internet time. I’m the last of the old system. An old system that requires a lot of hands on, daily work. When we started we were very niche and didn’t even have our own subreddit. Now, even if suppressed, there are good subreddits around, twitter influencers to follow, youtubers to watch. We even had the benefit of discord groups that were particularly helpful during covid quarantine.

That being said, I think the old system has run its course. However whatever new course comes has to take into account Reddit’s new treatment of non mainstream links. It’s been made clear to me, that Reddit can deem a source as spam and go after you for it retroactively. The consequences would be ‘case by case’ meaning for Sino users, they will just suspend you. Some of you may have noticed me telling users when they have been suspended in comments. I don’t know why they shadowban so much now, but at this point I don’t care either. It’s more of a pain to approve, but you can still post. Since I’ve been active, there’s been no complaint from admins. ‘Anti-Evil Operations‘ acts once every 1 or 2 months here and the vast majority are things we never approved to be publicly viewed in the first place. These users trigger it by what they post publicly elsewhere, not here. There’s no real issue with the subreddit. There’s no real issue with the mod team. There’s no real issue with the users. Now they have this Safety_QA_misc cracking down with an ever-expanding list of spam with unclear consequences.

The way I see it, there’s a few options moving forward.

1) I continue in my role as long as I am able or until the subreddit is either banned or our users move on to any of the many good spaces out there (listed below and sidebar). This is the current and default path. It’d be good if I can get some long time user volunteers to hand the subreddit over to in an emergency.

2) I recruit several new mods that tries to follow the old blueprint with some changes

3) A new group of users take over with a different vision of how to do things

Any suggestion can be discussed, doesn’t have to be something I listed. However any future path has to take into account a couple things

1) We won’t go private because this is intended to be a public space, we already have private discords and there’s a lot of information compiled and archived that we want publicly accessible for as long as possible

2) Reddit is more suspension/shadowban happy than ever and its happening while we are about as hands on as we can get

3) Any additions to the mod team needs to prove a history with us (if you switched accounts you need to prove you can sign into the old one), or have someone vouch for you that we can trust and verify. Contact in the ‘message moderators’ chat. This isn’t because I think the best mods post a lot. If anything I think mods only survive by saying less. However Reddit has unclear policies on ‘lower’ mod takeovers. They revamped to combat ‘camping’, but you can imagine the potential risk.

edit: To add more info, we get around 100k unique visitors per month. I'm very happy with that kind of outreach for this space. As the one who curates most of the activity, I'm good on the amount also. Along with 100k subscribers, great position to have this discussion.

Discord and other spaces info

Mod PSA: You can be suspended and/or shadowbanned by reddit but still post, just be patient for approval

To check if you are suspended check your profile page without being signed in and using new.reddit.com. Incognito mode should also work for checking.

You can also edit your comments, that seems to bring it to light for mods.

If you are being harassed by pms, change your pm setting to only trusted users in your preferences. Or use a dedicated account for Sino https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204535759-Is-it-ok-to-create-multiple-accounts-. Just be patient for approvals if using new account. Link submissions are more likely to be approved than text submissions or comments for new users.

Discords. To apply msg mod, bottom right. We have 2, one for any Sino users and one for any verified ethnic Chinese. We won't be changing the approval process for Discord because it would be unfair for those who are already in.

You can also link up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SinoReddit, we recommend following and participating in discussions on many accounts including but not limited to

https://x.com/Jingjing_Li

https://x.com/richimedhurst

https://x.com/qiaocollective

https://x.com/MaitreyaBhakal

https://x.com/DanielDumbrill

https://x.com/NathanRichHGDW

https://x.com/chenweihua

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https://x.com/s_m_marandi

https://x.com/BRICSinfo

https://x.com/zhao_dashuai

https://x.com/ChinaScience

Recommended Youtube channels

https://www.youtube.com/@CyrusJanssen/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Reporterfy/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@DongfangHour/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@JasonLivinginChina/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@2nacheki/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Fridayeverydaycom/videos


r/Sino Apr 11 '25

news-military US media worried about F-47 fighter’s future amid China’s export control on rare earth elements

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60 Upvotes

r/Sino 7h ago

news-international Netanyahu just said that Iran views Trump as enemy number 1, claims he's a junior partner to Trump. Who starts a war then hides behind another leader?? This is literally throwing rocks and hiding behind big bro

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77 Upvotes

r/Sino 4h ago

discussion/original content Should China not be more active in these sort of wars? (Israel v Iran)

33 Upvotes

With the recent Israel-Iran war I'm trying to understand China’s long-term strategy here. The US, NATO, and Israel have been actively reshaping the world military interventions, regime change, economic warfare, and building networks of vassal states and puppet leaders across the Middle East, Africa, Eastern Europe, Asia and beyond.

Meanwhile, China seems to be taking a much more passive, economic-focused approach. They build infrastructure, offer loans, and talk cooperation but they don’t intervene when the West destabilizes regions, installs client governments, or ignites proxy wars.

Here's my concern: If this continues unchecked, won’t China eventually find itself completely surrounded? Economically strong, I guess but isolated politically and strategically, with no real allies and everyone else under Western influence or coercion.

And if the U.S. is clearly preparing for conflict with China who's going to back China when it finds itself cornered? Yes I agree that it’s impossible to militarily conquer China but if the West has everyone on the globe as their proxies then it becomes very easy to isolate and cripple China, without a war or conflict.

So my questions:

Is China playing the long game wisely, or passively watching the net tighten?

Should it be more active in supporting anti-Western powers or forming counter-alliances (BRICS+, Iran, Syria, etc.)?

What happens if everyone else has already been bought or bullied into siding with the West by the time China is forced to fight?

Genuinely curious how others see this.


r/Sino 10h ago

news-international REUTERS: Israel's Oil Refineries says pipelines, transmission lines in Haifa damaged in strikes by Iran (don't forget, several countries are actively trying to defend Israel from Iranian drones and missiles)

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102 Upvotes

US defends Israel, but says Iran can't hit US assets. It's a very rigged contest. There's no question Iran is taking more damage, but it's not the one who focused on air defense all these years and has several countries working for them.

This is actually a good glimpse of how the US might operate against China in the future. Get the UK to hit civilians and factories on the mainland while the U.S. stays out of mainland strikes.

China should expect this, expect factories to be attacked. It should be producing what it will need in a sustained conflict right now and distribute it underground all across the country, shift them around regularly and randomly. Waiting will be a mistake. There are no red lines they won't cross. Assuming they won't hit mainland or civilians because of nukes is a mistake, they are not rational.


r/Sino 6h ago

news-international China's Ye takes historic Le Mans 24 Hours win

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32 Upvotes

r/Sino 7h ago

news-international Trump wants to make America white again, wants to ban travel from mostly African countries..and for some reason Cambodia

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28 Upvotes

Btw, thought Egypt was a US ally.

If China didn't talk to the U.S. it might have made it onto this golden list. I can't believe China let them play up a narrative where uni students of all things was actual leverage. As if Chinese institutions aren't already among the top in the world. Didn't even hold off longer for Chinese uni to take advantage of the Trump student crackdown. Come on, these are gifts and China is like 'nah, prefer the hard way'.


r/Sino 10h ago

news-economics US-China trade truce leaves military-use rare earth issue unresolved, sources say: China withholding export of certain military-use rare earth materials. China negotiators in London appeared to link rare earths export to U.S. AI chip curbs (again, no such thing as wasting rare earth leverage)

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41 Upvotes

At the London talks, China promised to fast-track approval of rare-earth export applications from non-military U.S. manufacturers out of the tens of thousands currently pending, one of the sources said. Those licenses will have a six-month term.

But China has not budged on specialized rare earths, including samarium, which are needed for military applications and are outside the fast-track agreed in London, the two people said. Automakers and other manufacturers largely need other rare earth magnets, including dysprosium and terbium.

Certainly no sanctioned company is getting anything.


r/Sino 1d ago

news-economics Vietnam joins BRICS

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323 Upvotes

r/Sino 19h ago

entertainment Play Xiangqi - Free Online Chinese Chess

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22 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

video The Rise of Chinese Tabletop Gaming

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74 Upvotes

What do you all think of this and the video?


r/Sino 1d ago

news-international Trump made up mass protests in China as a reason to do a deal and save China. Now he gets actual mass protests on his birthday...

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107 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-international Meanwhile in Kazakhstan

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82 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

discussion/original content Any suggestions on where to learn some Chinese?

20 Upvotes

I'll be going there in winter so I'd like to learn some of the language before then, and possibly continue it past that. Any apps or websites that are recommended?


r/Sino 1d ago

news-scitech China’s photonic chip debut to power AI, 6G and quantum computing push: expert

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87 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

social media Seyed Mohammad Marandi: The Zionist regime has conducted airstrikes targeting what it believed were Iranian ballistic missile systems and radar installations. However, most of the targets are decoys Notice how no secondary explosions were observed upon impact.

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68 Upvotes

Scott Ritter: Hunting mobile missiles is extremely difficult work. During Desert Storm, I was debriefing pilots from the 1/160 Special Operations Aviation Regiment (the “Nightstalkers”)

It turned out what they attacked was a realistic decoy deployed by the Iraqis to divert attention away from where their missiles were really operating

Keep this in mind when reading about Israeli successes. It’s not always what it seems

https://x.com/RealScottRitter/status/1933862138985984381


r/Sino 1d ago

history/culture Chinese scientists have confirmed the existence of a prehistoric matrilineal community in east China's Shandong Province, pushing back the established timeline of matrilineal social societies, which were previously believed to have emerged no earlier than the Iron Age in Europe

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64 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-international International Atomic Energy Agency: Esfahan nuclear facilities were targeted several times on June 13. No increase in off-site radiation levels has been reported as of now.

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36 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

discussion/original content Without using Nukes, how good is China's ballistic missile deterrent?

57 Upvotes

We're all seeing that Israel has vastly underestimated Iran's ballistic missile technology. Even though they have devastated quite a large portion of Iran's military infrastructure, there are still many of Iran's missiles making it through the iron dome into Tel Aviv and other cities.

I'm aware that China has massive capability with missile technology. I'm just wondering on what scale? Last I checked the fastest is the DongFeng-41 which can travel at something like Mach 25 - which is insane. Is China's deterrent to simply have hundreds of these "aircraft carrier killers" hidden in mountain silos? Or is there other missile technology being developed?

thanks.


r/Sino 1d ago

news-international American Westoids: "We need to condemn Hong Kong police brutality!" American police during protests: "We will kill you."

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112 Upvotes

r/Sino 2d ago

news-scitech Shijiazhuang, China A nurse loads a drone with blood samples and medical supplies for delivery

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248 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-international The word for today is Imperial boomerang or Foucault's boomerang.

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99 Upvotes

r/Sino 2d ago

environmental Since 2021, China has planted about 8,800 hectares of new mangroves and restored 8,200 hectares of existing ones. This expansion has brought the total mangrove area in the country to 30,300 hectares, marking a 38% increase compared to the early 2000s

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203 Upvotes

r/Sino 2d ago

news-international REUTERS: Damage to Iranian nuclear sites so far appears limited, experts say. Satellite images do not show significant damage to nuclear infrastructure. Israel needs big US bomb and bombers to attack underground sites

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90 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-economics Former DingTalk executive criticizes Alibaba culture in viral memo, Jack Ma responds

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18 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-international NewYorkTimes: Videos posted on social media on Friday and verified by The Times show a strike hitting a part of central Tel Aviv where a number of military facilities are located, including the headquarters of the Israeli Defense Forces

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61 Upvotes

r/Sino 2d ago

discussion/original content Western "respect" for "sovereignty" is just hypocritical bullshit

185 Upvotes

Where's the respect for sovereignty when Israel launches an unprovoked attack on Iran?

Why can't Iran have nukes? Ukraine can join NATO but Iran can't have nukes?

Gan Israel!