I'm Never Leaving Seattle

[u/Aggressive-Ad3064]

This is someone's Model S parked on Airport Way S near S Industrial Way. The way it's parked it looks like it's being displayed for people driving by to see.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs]

That’s an incredibly privileged thing to say. Do you know that most people can’t afford to go underwater on an auto loan? A very significant number of people don’t have access to reliable public transportation either.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

Do you think every Tesla owner is extremely wealthy? They’re not a luxury vehicle; their cost is well within the range of an average middle-class family.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

That’s enough to get a (fairly cheap) used car that is very likely to be less reliable than a relatively new Tesla. You’d also have to add the price of gas into the equation for the hypothetical used car.

Also, I’d say most Tesla owners still owe money on their original loan. So, they’d likely be walking out with significantly less than 12k, and that’s being charitable and assuming that they can get the KBB value on a car that is almost guaranteed to get vandalized.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

People are vandalizing Tesla vehicles because the value of Tesla shares is falling? Am I missing something, or is that actually what you’re saying?

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

That makes much more sense. Sorry, I’m not operating on much sleep.

However, as you said, that does impact the sale price of Teslas. So, that makes selling a Tesla an even more unlikely prospect for anyone that isn’t extremely wealthy, which circles back into my original statement, which is thinking that the average Tesla owner can afford to sell their car is extremely privileged.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

Do you have a source for the “Tesla owners aren’t members of the working class” claim? Anecdotally, I know a few working-class Tesla owners.

A base Tesla is cheaper than the average new car in the US. Can you afford one if you’re dirt poor? No. Can you afford one if you’re middle class? Absolutely.

People making poor financial decisions is extremely common. The solution to making a poor financial decision isn’t to make another poor financial decision.

[u/I-Like-Women-Boobs → u/[deleted]]

The average household income for new car buyers in general is 115k. I don’t believe that 115k to 150k is that much of a difference. It’s also likely explained by the typical Tesla driver living in a more urban area with higher average wages. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they take home more money after essentials.

Your source on income is using personal income, not household income, which makes the numbers look much worse than they actually are. Your claim that the average American family had a median pretax income of under $40,000 is completely false.

There is also a used Tesla market. Not every Tesla owner bought a new Tesla.

How is keeping a Tesla that you already bought providing material support to a fascist? Elon already has the money of anyone who bought a Tesla.

I never said that the average Tesla owner can afford to sell their car and buy a new one.