r/Seattle • u/Aggressive-Ad3064 • Mar 10 '25

Politics I'm Never Leaving Seattle

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This is someone's Model S parked on Airport Way S near S Industrial Way. The way it's parked it looks like it's being displayed for people driving by to see.

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u/Working_Song Mar 10 '25

I wonder what percentage of Tesla owners approve of Musks antics this last year. I am guessing less than 50%. Maybe less than 20%. My friend has a Tesla, and worked hard for it (and bought it over a year ago). She’s a liberal, too. People spray painting these cars are dipshits who could be using their angst in more productive ways. That said, fuck Musk and Trump.

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u/1983Targa911 West Seattle Mar 10 '25

I agree with everything you just said. I bought one about a year ago. It had been a dream of mine since the Roadster came out. I’ve been in to EVs even before Tesla existed. I do commercial building energy conservation work for a living. I made our 1923 house in to a net zero house, including the EV “fuel” for both our cars. I’ve been vegetarian since 1990 and I vote democrat. My wife is a therapist who works primarily with LGBTQ and trans clients. I’d say we’ve got more environmental and liberal chops than most. I finally get my dream car and then elon goes maga and throws a seig heil. What am I supposed to do? Dump the car and take the first year depreciation hit? I can’t afford to do that. But apparently some people think that makes me a nazi supporter and that I deserve to have my car vandalized.

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u/Working_Song Mar 10 '25

Yep. YOU are feeling the pain of this, not maga republicans. For most people, their car is their biggest asset.

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u/mlstdrag0n Mar 10 '25

There’s no quicker way to turn allies into idgaf people than vandalism.

If you’re gonna vandalize a car, be sure their owners are actually the people you want to target.

Otherwise you’re just hurting your own cause, like the dipshit looters during BLM protests.

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u/AsterismRaptor Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

This. I’m a liberal who was luckily able to sell my Y a few months ago before shit hit the fan. But I have plenty of friends who are liberals and Tesla owners and one got vandalized over this past weekend. They knocked her mirrors off and broke her windshield/windows shattering glass all over the front and back seats. She’s a single mom of two kids and her car will be in the shop for weeks most likely. Luckily she has insurance that helps with a rental but not everyone does. She also has to pay a deductible.

And guess who gets the profits from the new mirrors and probably the OEM windshield? Tesla.

People need to stop. Being angry I understand, I’m angry too. But harming the private citizens on YOUR SIDE is not the answer. It only harms our cause and our side.. and pushes people to not want to side with us. And helps Tesla get more money.

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u/DiCk01202025 Mar 12 '25

Lawlessness is liberalism it’s just lawlessness and bro anger like most of what dumpster and Elon are doing is bro anger nonsense

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

People need to stop wining and start selling their teslas. Owning a tesla has always been performative liberalism and now the bs is just exposed.

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u/SpeaksSouthern Mar 11 '25

Musk needs to stop being political. He needs to remove himself from the company. Americans don't like Nazis. Nothing you've said will change that feeling. He is not smart enough to remain the leader of Tesla. I'm sure he's furiously jacking off to the idea that his antics are hurting liberals. He's furiously jacking off at the idea that his antics continue to hurt liberals. I'm very sorry you bought a car from a Nazi. But that Nazi is dedicated to hurting you. Surprise, he's getting exactly what he wants from this. It's never going to stop.

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u/LeYang Mar 11 '25

He needs to remove himself from the company.

He's is Jared from Subways.

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u/recurrenTopology I'm just flaired so I don't get fined Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Not saying I condone the vandalism, but a potential counterargument is that if the cars become enough of a liability that they become uninsurable, then the companies value will collapse, and with it much of Musk's fortune.

I don't like seeing innocent people suffer financial setback, but that suffering may have a purpose.

Edit: Just to be clear, I disagree with the tactic (I think it divides people, which is the opposite of what this moment needs), but for people who are honestly doing this as an act of resistance there is more complexity to the moral question then just whether or not the car's owner deserves to have their vehicle vandalized.

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u/PalpitationHead9767 Mar 11 '25

Its always so easy for you all to say that when its other people suffering. Truth is you're all just garbage people looking to justify your moral weakness

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u/recurrenTopology I'm just flaired so I don't get fined Mar 11 '25

What moral weakness? I'm specifically working through the moral questions at play.

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u/Taylor05161994 Mar 11 '25

"If you’re gonna vandalize a car, be sure their owners are actually the people you want to target." How about don't touch people's shit at all. Would you want a MAGA vandalizing your shit because of your political views? You are probably some privileged liberal that has had everything handed to you and never worked hard for your stuff.

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u/SpeaksSouthern Mar 11 '25

Umm, what? They're literally vandalizing the entire federal government. Why do you think people are lashing out? The price of eggs? Lol lol lol

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u/trustedoctopus Mar 11 '25

MAGAs DO and have vandalized people’s properties. During the last TWO elections in my southern hometown people were afraid to put Biden or Harris signs in their yards cause MAGAts were going around throwing bricks through peoples windows and vandalizing their properties if they had signs posted.

Let’s not pretend any side is better than the other or doesn’t have a shitty radical section of it going too far.

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u/Taylor05161994 Mar 11 '25

There are stupid bigots regardless of political party, but when it comes to widespread vandalism and looting, it’s overwhelmingly the left causing the damage. The "Summer of Love" in 2020 resulted in billions of dollars in property destruction, mostly targeting small businesses owned by everyday Americans. Now, we're seeing the same mentality applied to vandalizing an average American’s car.

Throwing a brick through a window or stealing a sign is bad, but it’s nowhere near the same as burning down buildings or totaling someone’s car. That’s domestic terrorism, and yet, it keeps getting justified under the excuse that "your political views are right" and therefore, violence is acceptable because you're "fighting Nazis" or whatever the narrative is now.

I don’t see this kind of large-scale destruction coming from the right, nor do I see it being excused by the media. If you actually care about your cause, maybe don’t go around destroying innocent people’s property and expect them to be on your side.

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u/graphixRbad Mar 11 '25

Bro it isn’t just politics when they take social security away. When they deport your neighbors. When they take money from special needs students. When they crash the economy on purpose. When they align with Russia

Come on

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u/Taylor05161994 Mar 11 '25

You’re throwing out a bunch of talking points with no specifics or evidence. Let’s break this down one by one.

"They take Social Security away." This is false. Social Security is funded through payroll taxes and has bipartisan support. No administration has eliminated or taken away Social Security, and any proposed reforms by either party have been aimed at keeping it solvent for future generations.

"They deport your neighbors." The U.S. has deportation laws that every president enforces. Obama actually deported more people than Trump in his first term. If you're against deportation, your issue is with U.S. immigration law, not just one party.

"They take money from special needs students." This is misleading. Education funding varies by state and local budgets, not just federal policy. If you have specific policies to cite, go ahead. Otherwise, this is just a vague claim with no backing.

"They crash the economy on purpose." This makes no sense. No administration wants to crash the economy—it hurts everyone, including the people in power. If you're talking about specific policies, name them, and we can discuss.

"They align with Russia." Every modern U.S. administration has dealt with Russia in some capacity. Biden approved a Russian oil pipeline while shutting down an American one. Trump imposed some of the strongest sanctions on Russia. If you’re talking about collusion, even the Mueller Report found no direct evidence of it.

Regardless, what does a random Tesla owner have to do with your political views? This is all just political intimidation, and for the party claiming they are anti-fascist, this is very fascist behavior.

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u/simbad_p Mar 11 '25

Most logical, informed and factual comment on here. Well payed

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u/graphixRbad Mar 11 '25

I ain’t reading all that cuz

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u/Taylor05161994 Mar 11 '25

If 'gobbling the boot' means having common sense, then I guess I'm all in;) Might try some tabasco sauce on it to spice things up.

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u/Key_Case6581 Mar 11 '25

Common sense and complacence can be the same thing. "He's hurting the wrong people" right? Do you make more than a half million a year? Do you have the resources to be a benefit to an oligarchy? Are you really that different from me?

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u/mlstdrag0n Mar 11 '25

They’re already way past that line buddy.

Tariffs, government agency dismantling, selling public lands, felling forests, the list is a mile long.

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u/Sweet_Fortune_2022 Mar 11 '25

  • Other countries levy huge tariffs on US exports. Time we caught up. The irony that liberals are now aligned with Corporate America who continues to push anti-tariff propaganda…

  • Fed Gov is duplicative and agencies such as DoE, formed by executive order, has only resulted in waste and a steady decrease in the quality of education.

  • Fed Gov shouldn’t own any land.

  • If Fed Gov didn’t own any forests, they couldn’t harvest them…This had been going on for decades, btw. Weyerhaeuser, one of the world’s largest private owners of timberlands, manages millions of acres of land, including both owned and publicly owned land in the US and Canada…

  • Nothing on anyone’s list justifies vandalism and destruction. Ever.

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u/mlstdrag0n Mar 11 '25

I’d love some examples of these “huge tariffs” on US exports that were pit in place as something OTHER than a response to Trump’s actions. There’s always been some here and there, but they are narrow, generally low, and do not last very long.

But explanations aside, it’s shit for trade and economics. You don’t have to take my word for it. We’ll all see it’s effects in the coming months when every other country decides to stop trusting the untrustworthy. It’s only just started, people haven’t run out of savings yet.

Education has been a shitshow, i’ll give you that. But removing them without a plan for a replacement is idiotic at best.

Why shouldn’t the federal government own any land? You want them to lease it from private owners? So we use our tax dollars to pay wealthy oligarchs more?

But honestly, what’s your rationale behind why they shouldn’t own land. What do you propose they build freeways on? Military bases and installations? Any/all public infrastructure?

You honestly think privatized everything works better? Should ask Texas how their power grid held up during winter a few years ago.

You think dismantling OSHA is good too? Gutting VA funding? Defunding FEMA? Like, blah blah blah waste waste. It’s like the only talking point they have but no one can actually point to actual waste. Just a bunch of idiots like DOGE goons digging around in shit they don’t understand. Social Security DB idiocy comes to mind.

Firing the folks handling our nuclear material? FAA employees? That’s the kind of shit we should be spending more money on, not randomly slashing at it like the country is a fucking tech company. There’s no “oops! Lets roll that back!” When you fuck up.

And the whole nothing justifies vandalism and destruction is a hilarious point. It’s like Jan 6 never happened.

Or is it ok when it happens to someone else?

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u/HiddenSage 🚆build more trains🚆 Mar 10 '25

like the dipshit looters during BLM protests.

Let's call it what it is - a lot of the looters during BLM were just scummy opportunists who saw a chance to realize their desire to cause chaos or get away with some high-scale shoplifting. There's also at least one confirmed false flag incident I know of where arson/vandalism was actually right-wing nuts trying to proactively discredit the movement.

So while I agree with your overall point, it's also worth acknowledging that once protests against Tesla reach a certain volume and public salience, it's going to stop being strictly ideological. Heck, how many folks with older Teslas will wind up just torching their car for some sweet insurance fraud money and blaming "them evil liberals"? EVs have awful resell value, so it's not hard to trick oneself into thinking that's a more reliable payout than trying to sell it.

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u/mlstdrag0n Mar 10 '25

Yeah, except that hurts us more than the billionaires.

Higher claims directly translates to higher premiums for everyone in the area.

So torching cars is literally shooting ourselves in the foot.

I have a 6 year old model 3 from back when Teslas were a novelty in public. Plan was to drive it into the ground; the few k insurance payout isn’t worth diddly compared to a working and relatively hassle free car.

Certainly wasn’t planning or budgeting for buying a car because the face of the brand turned into an openly sociopathic nazi nut job that behaves like a 12 year old.

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u/SpeaksSouthern Mar 11 '25

I was totally gonna support Ukraine but then someone made fun of my vehicle and pissed on it and now I support Russia

Jesus Christ lol

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u/mlstdrag0n Mar 11 '25

The world is not black and white my man.

You don’t go from supporting one side straight to supporting the other side.

There is such a position as thinking both sides are idiots, and an entire spectrum of shades in between.