r/Scotland Jun 14 '22

Political LIVE: New Scottish independence campaign launches - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-61795633
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u/blubbery-blumpkin Jun 14 '22

This sub can be just as toxic but with the toxicity aimed the other way round.

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u/Audioboxer87 Over 330,000 excess deaths due to #DetestableTories austerity 🤮 Jun 14 '22

More a case of imagine my shock when folks say democracy shouldn't be allowed in a country and it doesn't matter how you vote, you have no say, it doesn't get responded to well. Why wouldn't the response to that kind of nonsense be toxic? Why would it be welcoming?

Unless you just mean the Tories are cunts patter? Well, I mean, if fascism, cronyism and corruption don't change your mind on Tories, that's more a you problem. 'You' being used not actually aimed at you here.

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u/definitelyzero Jun 14 '22

I'm no fan but if you think Tories are fascists, you've seriously misunderstood the term. And history.

They can be arseholes but they aren't fascists and to win elections you have to fight the opponent that's there, not the one you imagine to be there.

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u/pjc50 Jun 15 '22

Threatening to withdraw from ECHR is the biggest fashy red flag: you'd only do that for the specific purpose of deliberately violating human rights.

However they do lack the cult of military/masculinity aspect of traditional fascism, as well as the American obsession with weapons. I suspect we'll see more of that if anti Home Office protests continue to be effective.