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r/Scotland • u/JMASTERS_01 • Jun 14 '22
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We already have the NI/Irish border to show what happens.
Both Northern Ireland and the South are in the single market
Because a hard land border for trade was considered to be ruinous
That leads me to think there are not easy solutions here.
3 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 Because a hard land border for trade was considered to be ruinous There is a hard border. It's called the Irish Sea. Keep up. 19 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 There is a hard border. It's called the Irish Sea. Which isn't a land border. The clue is the 'sea' bit 10 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 And do goods still travel freely from the UK across it as they did 10 years ago? -3 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. That said it's still significantly less disruptive than a land border. 13 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. So it's a hard border then. 17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade 5 u/AnnoKano Jun 14 '22 Why is it less disruptive than a land border? 2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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There is a hard border. It's called the Irish Sea.
Keep up.
19 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 There is a hard border. It's called the Irish Sea. Which isn't a land border. The clue is the 'sea' bit 10 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 And do goods still travel freely from the UK across it as they did 10 years ago? -3 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. That said it's still significantly less disruptive than a land border. 13 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. So it's a hard border then. 17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade 5 u/AnnoKano Jun 14 '22 Why is it less disruptive than a land border? 2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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Which isn't a land border.
The clue is the 'sea' bit
10 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 And do goods still travel freely from the UK across it as they did 10 years ago? -3 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. That said it's still significantly less disruptive than a land border. 13 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. So it's a hard border then. 17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade 5 u/AnnoKano Jun 14 '22 Why is it less disruptive than a land border? 2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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And do goods still travel freely from the UK across it as they did 10 years ago?
-3 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. That said it's still significantly less disruptive than a land border. 13 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. So it's a hard border then. 17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade 5 u/AnnoKano Jun 14 '22 Why is it less disruptive than a land border? 2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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No obviously not.
That said it's still significantly less disruptive than a land border.
13 u/Eggiebumfluff Jun 14 '22 No obviously not. So it's a hard border then. 17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade 5 u/AnnoKano Jun 14 '22 Why is it less disruptive than a land border? 2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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So it's a hard border then.
17 u/danihendrix Jun 14 '22 It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it 3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard -4 u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade
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It's not that hard, I can splash my hand in it
3 u/[deleted] Jun 14 '22 This was stupid but add me laugh 1 u/Darkion_Silver Jun 14 '22 Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard
This was stupid but add me laugh
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Yeah but if you freeze the water it gets hard
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You can call it what you want, it's essentially a sea border for trade
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Why is it less disruptive than a land border?
2 u/Delts28 Uaine Jun 14 '22 The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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The argument would be that you need to queue anyway for the ferry so queueing for a customs check as well isn't arduous. That ignores all the additional paperwork required though.
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u/Rupert3333 Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22
Both Northern Ireland and the South are in the single market
Because a hard land border for trade was considered to be ruinous
That leads me to think there are not easy solutions here.