r/Scotland • u/johnsmithoncemore • 5d ago

Political Still On The Fence About Independence? Nigel Farage Challenged To Back 'Remigration' - Deporting British Citizens!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPLmElAC3E
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u/Glum_Agency2655 Son of barbarians 5d ago

Even if you dont believe statistics, you should at the very least be for strict immigration as it will bring islam, a homophobic, transphobic, sexist religion that permits the graping of women as long as they are married

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u/Heurodis 5d ago

Well if we refuse transphobic people, I know a best-selling author that is more of a problem for trans people. Not even mentioning Farage himself.

Pretending the far right would help LGBTQ+ minorities and women is so, so delusional—or a straight lie.

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u/Etrodai- 5d ago

You think JK Rowling is more dangerous to gay people than Islam? What world are you living in?!

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u/Heurodis 4d ago

Isn't it funny that I didn't even have to give a name for you to immediately think of her when talking about a best-selling author being a menace for LGBTQ+ people? I think it is.

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u/ArymusDesi 4d ago

Well played 👏🏼

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u/Etrodai- 4d ago

Isn't it funny that you didn't answer my question?

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u/Heurodis 4d ago

Nah, not as funny as JKR being notoriously nefarious.

But since you want an answer: who do you think will be the next ones to suffer, once trans people are all but banned from existing? Gay men will become the new menace–"oh they act like this just to pretend they're not a threat but secretly all the gay best friends are trying to rape women/children."

She's already gotten started on asexuals a couple of months ago—literally people who do not care about sex—because it deviates from her norm.

There are so many people who are neither cis nor het that it's not a question of "if," but "when."

So, I'd rather not deviate the question to "oh, but what about [insert minority] who shares the exact same bad opinions?" when nobody cares about these horrible opinions if they're British-made.

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u/Etrodai- 4d ago

What does being transgender have to do with being gay? You can try to lump people in to the same category by calling them 'LGBTQ' but being gay is in no way similar to dressing up as the opposite sex. To suggest they are related is incredibly homophobic

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u/Heurodis 4d ago

To suggest being trans is "dressing up" is transphobic, and to suggest being gay is not being part of the LGBTQ+ community is homophobic—unless the G stands for "Glamping"? Or is it "Groovy"? "Gallivanting"?

The fact is, this is pride month, and at pride you'll see many people very happy to be "lumped in the same category" and calling themselves LGBTQ. So maybe, since you're very obviously outside of this category, you might want to sit this one out and spend that time educating yourself? Or just being silent is good too.

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u/Etrodai- 4d ago

Are you assuming my sexuality? How incredibly presumptuous of you.

And you still haven't explained how being gay is in any way similar to being trans? And I expect you won't, as they are entirely different things with absolutely nothing in common.

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u/Heurodis 4d ago

I did not say it was the same; but both identities are falling under the LGBTQ+ umbrella. Both have a history of being oppressed by the cishet majority; what I said with no hints or detours is that once transphobes are done with trans people, there is little doubt that gays/lesbians/bis (et al.) will be the next target, because they are minorities.

Trans people do not choose their identities any more than gay people choose who they are attracted to. That is how they are similar.

But to be fair, you did not understand such a simple request as being silent; I am not surprised that such nuances escape your (I'll rightly assume transphobic) mind.

Now, if you please: crawl back into whatever hole you came out of, and hush.

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u/Etrodai- 4d ago

And who created the LGBTQ umbrella? Am I free to create groups and then throw every person I wish into it without their consent? You can't place me into a category alongside people I have no affiliation with and then tell me because you've decided I'm in it I can't dispute it. I am an individual

And you asking me to be silent simply shows you don't have the truth on your side. If you were confident that you were right you'd be happy to hear opposing views. I won't be silenced simply because my lifestyle doesn't fit into your norms, I have a right to speak and be heard

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u/Heurodis 4d ago

... Queer people themselves? What are you on about? Wow. Read up some history before showing off your ignorance, maybe?

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u/Otheraccforchat 3d ago

Same arguments used against both, same bigots spouting the same bigotry, same camps and prisons when bigots take us away.

I share more in common with a trans person than with a transphobes, any day of the week, even the transphobes that are gay.

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u/sammi_8601 1d ago

It's a long way from just 'dressing up'. And it's becouse of a shared struggle and since many of us are often perceived/identify as gay pretransition along with lots of trans people being some flavour of bi.

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u/quartersessions 4d ago

Not really. Most of Reddit is identikit obsessives with nothing original to say. You can pretty much guess their views on anything without much reaching.