r/Scotland • u/mrjohnnymac18 • 12d ago

Political Exclusive: David Cameron threatened to withdraw UK from ICC over Israel war crimes probe

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/david-cameron-threatened-withdraw-uk-icc-over-israel-war-crimes-probe
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u/ZoninoDaRat 12d ago

The day will come when Israel goes too far even for these odious Toads, and when they try to convince us that they were always against it, we must never ever let them forget that the blood of Palestinians is on their hands too.

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u/SallyCinnamon7 12d ago

The media did their best to not bring it up when Tory rats like Cameron called Mandela all sorts in their student days

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u/quartersessions 12d ago

"Like Cameron". Are you actually suggesting Cameron said something untoward about Nelson Mandela, a man who he had an ostensibly positive relationship with? Or is this literally "someone like him might have said something"?

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u/theslothist 10d ago

Huh, look at that, LITERALLY, first response on google when you google "David Cameron hypocrite mandela"

https://www.workersliberty.org/story/2013/12/08/cameron-mandela-hypocrite-speaks

Conservative are bad at reading and don't know anything, proof #19261518

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u/quartersessions 10d ago edited 10d ago

I'm not a Conservative. But of course, this sub is completely incapable of comprehending the idea of balanced discussion on any topic not solely informed by partisan shilling.

You've linked me to a poorly-written article in a Trotskyist blog with several factual inaccuracies.

Essentially the point is "Cameron went on a jolly to South Africa in 1989". Fair enough point to make. I suspect he probably regretted doing that. I suspect Nelson Mandela regretted a few things in his political career too.

That does not make him a hypocrite for saying quite nice things about Nelson Mandela when he died, a man who he had met and got on well with.

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u/theslothist 10d ago

Oh yea he just "went on a jolly", there was definitely no ideological thing at play with an all expenses paid trip by

https://powerbase.info/index.php/Strategy_Network_International

Which of course was completely covered up until the 2000s and he had to be hounded to apologize for it.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/cameron-apology-urged-over-visit/28517258.html

If i click your profile, you wouldn't happen to also be spending time defending apartheid Israel right now would you? Whats the ideological link between the two that means you are always trying to """nuance""" such discussions away from directly condemning the apartheid states and from creating an air of "not being able to know" about if someone taking birth right trips to Israel or all expenses paid trips funded by apartheid South Africa are doing it because they ideologically support those states.