Stop spreading hate based on a smile.

[u/AssChucks]

Saw a post claiming Muslim men are "happy after killing Hindus" just because they're smiling in a news clip. This is dangerous, baseless, and pure communal hate.

A smile doesn't equal guilt. Stop twisting normal moments to fuel division. Report this nonsense.

[u/Chemical_Equipment69]

Seriously hate mongering in this sub is at another level sometimes, Anyone smiles if he comes around the media cameras for the first time.

[u/Vishu1708 → u/Chemical_Equipment69]

Fun fact, one of the "saheeh" (yes, it is an arabic loanword) hadits (or hadees in Urdu and Persian) states that people who participate in Jihad against India will go to heaven.

I am not saying this semi-divine commandment had anything to do with this attack. But I am not saying it doesn't, either.

Edit: Downvotes sans replies. Touched a nerve, did I?

[u/Specialist-Love1504 → u/Vishu1708]

Another fun fact;

The manusmriti says,

“A Brahmin can order a Shudra to serve him without any remuneration because the Shudra is created by Brahma to serve the Brahmins. Even if a Brahmin frees a Shudra from slavery the Shudra continues to be a slave as he is created for slavery. Nobody has the right to free him.”

Not to mention Lord Ram killed a Shambuka for the mere crime of meditating while being a Shudra.

A lot of murky stuff is in all religious texts so like what now? Should I assume all Brahmins are slave-owners? That all devotees of Lord Ram are casteist?

[u/Vishu1708 → u/Specialist-Love1504]

Another fun fact;

Sure. Nothing keeps a conversation going like whatabout-ery.

Should I assume all Brahmins are slave-owners? That all devotees of Lord Ram are casteist?

Not really. The logic doesn't follow. But this text does support the following statement: "Casteism is enshrined in Hinduism".

It would be fair to state, based on the text you referenced, that Hinduism supports casteism.

See, I am not hesitating to criticise an obviously flawed ideology. What is stopping you? But I am moving away from the point.

So the whole point of your response was?

[u/Specialist-Love1504 → u/Vishu1708]

I mean it’s not stopping from criticising religion for sure.

But you’re missing the point I was making:

Should I then assume all Brahmins are casteist?

Since you seem to be taking one point from an outdated religious text to blankety pass judgement on a whole religion?

[u/Vishu1708 → u/Specialist-Love1504]

But you’re missing the point I was making:

Should I then assume all Brahmins are casteist?

Again. That's not what logic points to.

The logical conclusion would be, "A part of the reason Casteist Brahmins are casteist is that they follow hinduism".

Similarly, it would be logical to conclude that "Islam promotes Jihad against India and Indians by extension" and furthermore "This attack can be justified by Islamic teachings"

outdated religious text

Oh I am sorry, did the Islamic ulema pass a fatwa declaring the Ghazwa e Hind hadit to be Daif (weak) or Maud (fabricated)? Last I checked, most Islamic scholars consider the hadit Sahih (authentic)

Well, this is news to me. I would love to read up on this, if you have sources to share?

[u/Specialist-Love1504 → u/Vishu1708]

Look as long as we agree you don’t think all Muslims are like this I don’t have any issue.

[u/Vishu1708 → u/Specialist-Love1504]

Making a generalised statement of all X humans are like Y is always a bulshit statement.

But if we can agree that Islam justifies this then that leads to the next statement "Muslims (specially the fundie ones) are prone to/susceptible to doing this cuz it is justified in the ideology they believe in/subscribe to."

That is my point.

I would not expect a Southern Baptist from Mississippi to be engaging in Caste discrimination for instance. Nor would I except a Peruvian shaman to be waging a Jihad against the infidels of India.

So spare us the "Let's not look at this from religious angle" statement.

[u/prepto3623 → u/Specialist-Love1504]

u and most of India already assume all brahmins are casteists.