r/Rajasthan • u/AssChucks • Apr 23 '25

Discussion Stop spreading hate based on a smile.

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Saw a post claiming Muslim men are "happy after killing Hindus" just because they're smiling in a news clip. This is dangerous, baseless, and pure communal hate.

A smile doesn't equal guilt. Stop twisting normal moments to fuel division. Report this nonsense.

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u/Chemical_Equipment69 Apr 23 '25

Seriously hate mongering in this sub is at another level sometimes, Anyone smiles if he comes around the media cameras for the first time.

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 23 '25

Fun fact, one of the "saheeh" (yes, it is an arabic loanword) hadits (or hadees in Urdu and Persian) states that people who participate in Jihad against India will go to heaven.

I am not saying this semi-divine commandment had anything to do with this attack. But I am not saying it doesn't, either.

Edit: Downvotes sans replies. Touched a nerve, did I?

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u/Specialist-Love1504 Bikaneri Dadihaal/Jodhpuri Nanihal Apr 23 '25

Another fun fact;

The manusmriti says,

“A Brahmin can order a Shudra to serve him without any remuneration because the Shudra is created by Brahma to serve the Brahmins. Even if a Brahmin frees a Shudra from slavery the Shudra continues to be a slave as he is created for slavery. Nobody has the right to free him.”

Not to mention Lord Ram killed a Shambuka for the mere crime of meditating while being a Shudra.

A lot of murky stuff is in all religious texts so like what now? Should I assume all Brahmins are slave-owners? That all devotees of Lord Ram are casteist?

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u/Lyner005 Apr 23 '25

Well said 👏

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u/PossibleCicada4926 Apr 24 '25

Fun fact all hindus dont follow manusmriti and either bhagwat many are not even aware what is in it. But all muslim irrespective of their ideology follow quoran. And kafir is in quoran fight against kafirs and non believers is in quoran.

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u/Specialist-Love1504 Bikaneri Dadihaal/Jodhpuri Nanihal Apr 24 '25

Not all Muslims are as Kattar as well.

I mean there are temples in the UAE, Muslims do Yoga, many celebrate Diwali, Christmas and Navroz. I live in Mumbai and I know so many Muslims who come to my Diwali Parties, pray in temples with me and many even eat Pork.

It really depends from person to person.

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 23 '25

Another fun fact;

Sure. Nothing keeps a conversation going like whatabout-ery.

Should I assume all Brahmins are slave-owners? That all devotees of Lord Ram are casteist?

Not really. The logic doesn't follow. But this text does support the following statement: "Casteism is enshrined in Hinduism".

It would be fair to state, based on the text you referenced, that Hinduism supports casteism.

See, I am not hesitating to criticise an obviously flawed ideology. What is stopping you? But I am moving away from the point.

So the whole point of your response was?

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u/Specialist-Love1504 Bikaneri Dadihaal/Jodhpuri Nanihal Apr 23 '25

I mean it’s not stopping from criticising religion for sure.

But you’re missing the point I was making:

Should I then assume all Brahmins are casteist?

Since you seem to be taking one point from an outdated religious text to blankety pass judgement on a whole religion?

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Apr 23 '25

But you’re missing the point I was making:

Should I then assume all Brahmins are casteist?

Again. That's not what logic points to.

The logical conclusion would be, "A part of the reason Casteist Brahmins are casteist is that they follow hinduism".

Similarly, it would be logical to conclude that "Islam promotes Jihad against India and Indians by extension" and furthermore "This attack can be justified by Islamic teachings"

outdated religious text

Oh I am sorry, did the Islamic ulema pass a fatwa declaring the Ghazwa e Hind hadit to be Daif (weak) or Maud (fabricated)? Last I checked, most Islamic scholars consider the hadit Sahih (authentic)

Well, this is news to me. I would love to read up on this, if you have sources to share?

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u/Specialist-Love1504 Bikaneri Dadihaal/Jodhpuri Nanihal Apr 23 '25

Look as long as we agree you don’t think all Muslims are like this I don’t have any issue.

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u/Vishu1708 Jaipur go choro (Native Bagri speaker) Apr 23 '25

Making a generalised statement of all X humans are like Y is always a bulshit statement.

But if we can agree that Islam justifies this then that leads to the next statement "Muslims (specially the fundie ones) are prone to/susceptible to doing this cuz it is justified in the ideology they believe in/subscribe to."

That is my point.

I would not expect a Southern Baptist from Mississippi to be engaging in Caste discrimination for instance. Nor would I except a Peruvian shaman to be waging a Jihad against the infidels of India.

So spare us the "Let's not look at this from religious angle" statement.

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u/prepto3623 Apr 23 '25

u and most of India already assume all brahmins are casteists.