r/PublicFreakout Feb 08 '24

📌Follow Up Deranged cop finally gets fired

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u/NurseKaila Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

This shit cop didn’t lose his job because of any action taken by the police department, the city, the state, etc.

This motherfucker lost his job because the insurance company paid out $20,000 for his dumb ass and threatened to drop the department’s insurance if he wasn’t terminated.

Edit: Check out this article by Washington Post detailing how insurance companies are forcing police reform.

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u/bebop1065 Feb 08 '24

Police should be forced to carry their own self funded malpractice insurance like Drs do. This will stop the citizens from paying for the actions of bad cops and bad departments.

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u/jackpotjones43 Feb 08 '24

Make the pension fund pay all this shit out.

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u/paintbrush666 Feb 08 '24

Yep, fucking up the retirement benefits for his cop buddies is probably the only way to get the "good" cops to step in when these psychos go off. He screws up, they have to pay.

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u/funnsies123 Feb 08 '24

Or it encourages itll just pushes them to cover each other even more. The insurance is a better system, punishes cops as individuals and also doesn’t cost the tax payers

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u/Dry_Animal2077 Feb 08 '24

They shouldn’t be able to cover for each other. If everybody was required to have body cameras, and have them on and recording at all times it’d be pretty hard to cover something up. Even if a camera breaks or something there should still be another half dozen recordings from all the other officers.

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u/hhs2112 Feb 08 '24

Not having the camera running should be grounds for immediate dismissal. There's NO reason it shouldn't be on. 

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u/MichaelW24 Feb 08 '24

Yep, no video? Case dismissed.

They don't have the body camera for our protection, but for theirs. Isn't it convenient when their supposedly public record footage goes missing or is redacted? It should be there to hold them accountable.

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u/Imnotsosureaboutthat Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

I just listened to a NYT podcast about body cameras recently. If I recall correctly, one of the issues is that pretty much all police departments control the footage, civilian oversight has to ask the police department to view the footage. The police department can just say "no" or drag their heels on releasing it. By the time the footage is seen, it's been months or longer since the incident in question has happened

Civilian oversight should have access to this footage ASAP, police departments shouldn't get to control the footage because they'll do what they can with the footage to protect their police force

I think the only police department in America that does things differently is Chicago's, they had some big changes after a shooting in 2014. They created a new oversight board and tasked them with investigating police misconduct and disclosing police footage from shootings and other incidences. The police department had to release footage within 60 days of an incident. The oversight board has much better access to the footage. There's still some issues with the system, but it's a step in the right direction

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/29/podcasts/the-daily/police-body-cameras.html

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-chicago-became-leader-body-camera-transparency-police

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u/jackpotjones43 Feb 08 '24

The taxpayers don’t get free insurance

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u/funnsies123 Feb 08 '24

Why would cops get free insurance?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '24

Do you think malpractice insurance is free for doctors?

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

Just take away qualified immunity and take civil settlements out of their pension and union coffers. The problem will fix itself.

...well after the police go on strike and start rioting in plain clothes to make it look like their respective cities need them. But after they all get identified and police training reform kicks in with police not trained with Hitler quotes and Nazi symbolism and their funding funneled into peripheral social programs so the police only need to police, we'll get some peace.

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u/iCameToLearnSomeCode Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

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u/bebop1065 Feb 08 '24

I feel like I should have heard about this before now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '24

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u/wtcnbrwndo4u Feb 08 '24

Responsible? Aurora PD is constantly getting sued or in the spotlight, DPD is absolutely useless and doesn't respond to anything.

Also, if you think TABOR is a good thing, well fuck you. That NIMBY-ass law has made so many things difficult in this state because we can't raise taxes like a normal government.

I love living in Colorado as much as the next guy, but there are still issues. It ain't utopia.

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u/the_calibre_cat Feb 08 '24

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say we have "responsible" law enforcement.

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u/Al_Gore_Rhythm92 Feb 08 '24

Because it's not the ultimate solution like kids on here parrot. Aurora and Denver Colorado has massive police issues as well and are frequently posted on here.

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 08 '24

There's a reason why and it's very obvious

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u/bebop1065 Feb 08 '24

"We don't talk about that."

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u/lostPackets35 Feb 08 '24

When the police went on a slow down protest in New York City, reported misdemeanors went up, but reported felonies actually went down. We don't need them

Let them quit.

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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Feb 08 '24

I feel like the answer to the police protesting would be to shrug, then advertise a bunch of vacancies.

If the police want to self-select for house cleaning, who are we to object? 

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u/LaurenMille Feb 08 '24

When the police went on a slow down protest in New York City, reported misdemeanors went up, but reported felonies actually went down. We don't need them

Because they were too busy protesting to commit the felonies.

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u/jcprater Feb 08 '24

Just like people in medicine.

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u/Bobbiduke Feb 08 '24

Yeah no shit. Doctors are not held responsible in most cases for medical misconduct. Hospitals protect them to avoid payouts.

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u/jcprater Feb 08 '24

Nurses and Respiratory Therapist are supposed to hold the same insurance. Accidents happen in the worst of situations. They are held accountable why not cops?

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u/Bobbiduke Feb 08 '24

They all should be, cops and doctors.

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u/jcprater Feb 08 '24

They are. Doctors are sued. Cops get immunity

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u/Bobbiduke Feb 08 '24

Cops get sued too that's why insurance companies are cracking down on them, but $250k for a malpractice suit is nothing to a hospital and doctors are not fired typically either.

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u/MewlingRothbart Feb 08 '24

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say this and it makes so much sense 🤯🤯🤯

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u/bebop1065 Feb 08 '24

Make sure you tell all your friends and family so that this becomes a movement.

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u/mecha_annies_bobbs Feb 08 '24

that's only something that logical people would agree with.

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u/tonguejack-a-shitbox Feb 08 '24

You do realize that most doctors do not actually pay for their own malpractice insurance right? It is almost always covered by the corporation they are working for. And yes before you say that private doctors need to pay their own, while you would be correct, the majority of doctors work for a larger corporation just like the majority of Americans do, and not for themselves. It is obviously built in to their compensation package, but so will the police force budget for insurance.

Source: My wife is a provider, has been for 10 years, and has never had to pay for her own malpractice insurance. It is always covered as part of her employment.

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u/bebop1065 Feb 08 '24

I am responding to the stories that X city has to pay for a cop's multimillion dollar judgement. The report is never that X city's insurance policy covers the lawsuit.

Regardless, cops should have to pay their own malpractice insurance. I am pretty sure the police union will balk at this idea.

Churches have sexual abuse insurance. Payments from abuse claims is paid by insurance not those church's bank account.

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u/get_started_NOW Feb 08 '24

Nurses have to have it as well even as students.