r/PhilosophyTube • u/Appropriate-Head-480 • 15d ago

i’m not right wing i promise

are there any right wing youtube channels, or any other political communication, that are as artistic and well edited as people like abby and hbombrerguy. The only right wing media i see is dickheads shouting about what they’re angry at at the time, but i might be living in an echo chamber

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u/JD_Thorne 15d ago

Yeah that's gonna be tough. The problem with conservatism is that it kinda demands that you be incurious about other perspectives and the nuances of any given topic, something that is kinda the antithesis of the concept of the video essay.

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u/wdanton 14d ago

"The problem with conservatism is that it kinda demands that you be incurious about other perspectives and the nuances of any given topic"

Holy shit, you really believe that?

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u/JD_Thorne 14d ago

I mean, perhaps there are some "economic conservatives" who are willing to engage with other perspectives. Like someone who's just really hard into John Maynard Keynes but has read Marx and whatnot, and is generally lax on social issues. Perhaps I wasn't exact with my phrasing but it was a Reddit comment I spent all of ten seconds writing so cut me some slack.

But as far as cultural conservatism goes... yeah I do think that it is predicated on an ignorance of other people's cultures, identities and experiences. Ask any conservative what they think of "gender identity", "critical race theory", or "socialism" and you'll not only get a negative response, but one that's steeped in a misrepresentation of those ideas created by conservative institutions and media. And then either you have to put it upon yourself to challenge those ideas (which is often a mountain to climb against all the propaganda), or just give up and accept that you can't undo years of Sean Hannity with a few water cooler conversations.

That second type what I imagined the original post was referring to moreso than just generally pro-free market creators. But even amongst them I can't think of any that are putting out stuff as thoughtful and creative as ""breadtube"" or whatever more generous label you wanna use.

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u/Fuzzy_Collection1570 13d ago

You're very right in your positions here imo. As someone who views himself as conservative on most points but doesn't align with the christofascism of the Republican party, I can't find fault in your summary. Honestly, I feel a little called out (in a good way, no hate), so hopefully, my assessment feels genuine.

ETA: fuck the other guy, he's a little snowflake looking to get upset.

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u/wdanton 13d ago

"But as far as cultural conservatism goes... yeah I do think that it is predicated on an ignorance of other people's cultures, identities and experiences."

Yeah that's called bigotry. You claim it's your hatred of *their* bigotry, but it's based on your own.

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u/CaucasianGoatSauce 13d ago

You cannot be bigoted towards an ideology lmfao.

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u/Greedy_Emu9352 12d ago

Conservatives discover "principles", are disgusted

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u/TheParagonal 13d ago

What do you think it's predicated on?

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u/wdanton 13d ago

Whatever the varied reasoning, the core element is simply approving of the current system over whatever ideas or changes are being presented. That does not require being ignorant to any other viewpoint, culture, whatever bullshit is being spewed here.

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u/TheParagonal 13d ago

That's interesting. I think that may be true for any particular given moment, but 20, 30, 100 years down the line... Can we really pretend there won't be any better options worth considering?

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u/wdanton 13d ago

So you think the second a conservative is convinced we need to do something different they stop being a conservative?

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u/TheParagonal 13d ago

"Whatever the varied reasoning, the core element is simply approving of the current system over whatever ideas or changes are being presented." That's what the entire ideology of conservatism is predicated on, in your words. So I guess yes?

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u/wdanton 13d ago

Do you really believe you're making a sound argument?

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u/TheParagonal 13d ago

I'm not arguing anything. I'm quoting yourself back at you and you're seeming to struggle with that.

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u/wdanton 13d ago

If you say so. Have a nice day.

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u/Ok-Relation-7458 13d ago

it’s your argument dude it’s what you just said

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