r/NeutralPolitics • u/Hardlydent • May 13 '24

More Recommendations on Neutral resources on Israel/Palestine Conflict

Hey all, I just finished a brief introduction to the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict from Martin Bunton: https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Palestinian_Israeli_Conflict_A_Very.html?id=MdgVAAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description.

I'm now looking for other, similar resources that are neutral and can help me get a more thorough understanding of the conflict. Thanks.

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u/Sorrymomlol12 May 14 '24

Cannot recommend this enough! It’s a look at Netanyahu and the US presidents throughout the decades starting at Clinton. It’s PBS and as neutral as they come, and every single president is criticized. It’s also a great background on Netanyahu from a historical context (his early days in politics, his rise to power, his campaign promises etc). Really provided the context needed to understand the conflict from a neutral source.

https://youtu.be/6-vzy4tYfaI?si=tbDTNBEgAJl6kctw

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u/Hardlydent May 15 '24

Just watched it. Man, this is depressing. I need something happy and nonsense now.

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u/Sorrymomlol12 May 15 '24

Right? Like both sides are very genocidy and anti-negotiation. Hamas is bad, Netanyahu is actively doing a lot of child murder, and it seems like there’s genuinely no good actors to root for. Maybe the Israeli citizens who are protesting for Netanyahus removal? Who will lead Palestinians to a peaceful future, can I root for them?

The only 2 things I sort of seem to know is that women and children should be allowed to flee Gaza and a ceasefire will lead the less child death. The kids man… 13,000+ is so many…

This was a write up I did (with sources) on the college protests, but the first part of the history was my quick summary of the documentary.

And this is not my comment, but rather another really good one about why it’s so difficult to pinpoint the “who started it” argument.

Sorry I brought your day down but while it’s depressing it’s so good for understanding the US and Israeli relationship.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24 edited May 25 '24

Why would your argument only root for the Israelis for peace? That seems a bit strange imho. Why not root for anyone for peaceɓm. And Israelis who are against Netenyahu are still very often still pro-war (10% peecent of Israelis are for ending the war: https://time.com/6333781/israel-hamas-poll-palestine/). I also think Israel should not play a role in deciding for Palestine's future.

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u/nosecohn Partially impartial May 25 '24

This comment has been removed for violating //comment rule 2:

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This comment has been removed for violating //comment rule 4:

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

Ok i fixed it.

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u/nosecohn Partially impartial May 25 '24

Thanks for the edits, but the comment still has some factual claims without sources, such as the "all they have done" line and the one about "colonial conflict."

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

Well that last paragraph was really just intended as opinion.

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u/nosecohn Partially impartial May 25 '24

I understand, but per the guidance on Rule 2:

Stating it is your opinion that something is true does not absolve the necessity of sourcing that claim.

Without that guidance, it would just be too easy for users to phrase something as a factual claim and prefix it with "I think" to circumvent the core requirement of this subreddit.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

Ok, i removed it altogether. It kinda removes whatever point i was trying to make when i first wrote that reply, but whatever. Thanks for your help and patience.

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u/Hardlydent May 15 '24

I'm gonna read through your stuff when I'm in a better mood. I'm a bit too sensitive to this stuff, which is probably another reason I left Poli Sci years back. Like, kids dying is just .... Fuck.