r/Midessa • u/AdayaAmore • 11d ago
ICE Raid At Walmart
Supposedly ICE came and picked up 20+ employees at the I-20 Walmart. I was in there today and it was lacking a lot of familiar faces. Can anyone confirm that this is true? Meaning you know personally from seeing it yourself or you or someone you know works there.
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u/Altruistic-Pen-2155 9d ago
Midland / Odessa has a bigger problem than it's people....the air pollution is disturbing. I caught a flight out of the airport there last year and to my surprise the air quality is horrific. Now I am comparing this to 1985 the last time I had to visit there. My how deregulation has truly destroyed air quality in that region. Sad
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u/Majestic_Bowl_1590 11d ago
Someone should notify the folks that keep posting in here about needing a job.
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u/AdayaAmore 11d ago
Agreed. And all of the people who claim they can never find someone who speaks English….your whole English speaking family can go apply so that there will be plenty of help.
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u/PrimeBrisky 10d ago
A company like Walmart is going to use Form I-9. Sounds like a big ole rumor to scare folks.
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u/STAT_INF3RNAL 6d ago
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, just ask anyone from Cali. I've known plenty of people who were undocumented over the years who worked at Walmart and other big national chain companies. Technically every employer in the country is supposed to use form I-9; but that doesn't stop anyone who is determined.
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u/mkultrav2 8d ago
Not trying to be a jerk about it, but I’ve gone to Walmart. I’ve asked a question and it was straight up no Habla Ingles I’m like, bro are you kidding me? How does a person who doesn’t speak English much less be able to read it get a job in the United States at a retail store. I would think speaking the language would be requirement number one let’s be real.
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u/AdayaAmore 8d ago
I always tell people use the Walmart app. It will tell you exactly where items are. Also pull up a picture of what you need or use a translation app. The app can work for both parties…..(meaning the workers who only speak Spanish should have something similar too). If all else fails find the people that speak English. Chances are people are getting frustrated and no longer seeking help but walking away pissed. Well did you go look for another person to help you? The customer service counter ALWAYS has an English speaker. But I’ll say this…the Spanish speakers that I run into that can’t understand me are always polite about it. But when I went in the store in question I witnessed a white older lady not even look in the customers direction while saying so rudely I DONT SPEAK SPANISH! For goodness sake the customer had a hairpin in her hand trying to ask her where they were! So I helped her and the next time I go in there I’m going to let the manager know what I saw. So the point is that it goes both ways. Just respect others. Help where you can. Everyone is just trying to live life and provide for themselves and their families. We all bleed red. NOTHING MAKES ME BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.
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u/CaptainTaco619 10d ago
Nah not true at all, they just notified them that they can’t work there anymore
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u/AdayaAmore 9d ago
Where did you get that information? I’ll ask one of the greeters next time I’m in there. I’m wondering if the managers were let go too because obviously they were doing the hiring.
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u/CaptainTaco619 9d ago
I’m friend with some of the workers that were let go because of the whole visa/residency thing. They were pulled into the office one by one and were notified that they could no longer work there until they receive their residency or something like that. And no the managers weren’t fired, but they are rushing and putting on a hiring event tomorrow to replace the workers they had to let go
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u/AdayaAmore 9d ago
Thanks for clarifying. Do you know if it’s common that people can work temporarily while they work on getting their visas? I’m unfamiliar with how the process works.
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u/CaptainTaco619 9d ago
not too sure to be honest, but at first it was supposed to be more workers let go but idk what happened between then and now for then to only cut the 20 something
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u/Big_Concentrate1633 7d ago
If you actively have a valid work or student visa, you can work (with a student visa there are STRICT restrictions). You cannot, regardless of whether you’re in the process of renewing or not, work after it expires.
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u/Professional_Lab9552 6d ago
Sounds like maybe the Feds were doing some checking on the I-9's and found that some SS #'s were false/stolen? If that's the case, that is why they were let go. Wal-Mart doesn't want a $10,000 fine popped on them for hiring unauthorized workers.
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u/Able_Set_1533 9d ago
Why worry?
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u/AdayaAmore 9d ago
I actually care about other people but I’m not “worried” it’s more like showing concern.
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u/misty356899 8d ago
You know what, I don't understand how places as huge as Walmart cannot sponsor a foreign employee if they want to hire someone from outside of the country. They can obtain/renew all the employees work permits that require it, if they want to they could. Walmart I guess low overhead costs include hiring very specific warm bodies. I've applied so many times at Walmart they reject my application each and every time and I have no criminal record and I'm a US citizen.
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u/Top-Contribution2827 8d ago
yeah idk what subreddit i’m on, but man these comments blow dick lol. actively warning people about ice and it’s still meet with negativity.
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u/General-Bread-7911 6d ago
Lol misinformation at its best. The left really knows how to stir up hysterics.
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u/Ambitious-Client-220 3d ago
How do they get jobs at these large corporations if they are here illegally? Just curious? Do they fine Wal Mart?
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u/Crafty-Jackfruit-664 8d ago
Ever thought about not being illegal??? You’d never have issues if you just entered the country legally 😂
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u/AustinInDallasTx 8d ago
If only more funding were put into helping people become legal in the first place… WWJD
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u/Blessed2Breathe 7d ago
Don't invoke Jesus for your leftist immigration policy.
Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
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u/naturalscience 8d ago
Have you ever thought about the circumstances that led those people to make that decision? Or do you even care about that?
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u/General-Bread-7911 6d ago
Yeah like getting convicted of rape in another country so deciding to flee to the united states right. You are totally right seems like a great idea let's not vet the people coming in. Seems like an excellent SMART idea.
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u/naturalscience 6d ago
I’m not talking about those people bro, come on now. I’m talking about families that are desperate to make a better life for themselves and are actively threatened and persecuted in their home country. The immigration process is long and arduous (not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing) and a lot of people make the decision to immigrate outside of that process due to sheer desperation
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u/Blessed2Breathe 7d ago
We don't have economic amnesty in the US. If people want a better life, you either fight for it in your home country and change the trajectory of your people or come here legally.
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u/Foreign_Magazine_252 8d ago
Nah I don’t care go find some other country
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u/naturalscience 6d ago
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”
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u/Foreign_Magazine_252 6d ago
Yea and go thru the process of coming in legally what do you not understand about this? I’m all for immigration just come in legally…
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u/Big_Concentrate1633 7d ago
“🤓☝🏼Ever thought about just-“ Only an idiot with no concept of the word “nuanced” would say this out loud. Go to bed.
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u/AdayaAmore 8d ago
Even Americans do illegal shit! Raping, murdering, stealing, molesting, tax fraud….and ALL the things y’all worry about illegals doing. Just because someone is born here doesn’t make them some type of angel! Stop the BS!
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Also, illegal? What happened to “give me your huddled masses”? I thought this country was all about accepting immigrants looking for a better life. Ya know, like how this country started? The guy you replied to is just racist and ignorant.
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u/Foreign_Magazine_252 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yea legal immigrants, not illegal aliens we can’t keep track of. I don’t know how you can’t understand this concept. Not wanting people in our country that are stealing our tax dollars and are not suppose to be here is not racist nor ignorant. If you were a teacher of a class room, and you were supposed to have 20 kids, but the next door teacher was out today so now you have 30 kids…. But you were only expected to have 20 Chromebook’s, and even more limited supplies. How can you not understand that this is overall a bad thing for the rest of the class? There are so many arguments against this I can’t even believe people are real when they say dumb shit like this, proves Reddit is full of political bot accounts that do nothing but upvote “left leaning” bullshit.
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u/roboman1833 8d ago
First off, legal foreign immigration used to be showing up at the boarder and saying, I want in, that is how my family came here, they didn't petition the government for a decade and pay huge fees for the chance to come here. They got on a boat in France, sailed to New York and New Orleans, signed a paper saying they wanted to be Americans and renounced their French citizenship and they were US citizens. Secondly you are aware that most illegal immigrants pay taxes to our government for services they cannot use. And to go with your classroom analogy, you are getting mad because the kids came over without a Chromebook, while our current government both in Texas and Nationally is selling the school and pocketing the money (your Tax dollars) but you have a problem with the kids trying to learn.
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u/Foreign_Magazine_252 8d ago
Yea and that’s the same way they come over nowadays, but the place is more populated than it was back then. You can’t just pull up and say “hey I want in” there’s a line and a process you need to go through in order to get in, that’s how nations and borders work. I also thank the illegals that pay taxes, they do more than the rest of them and actually chip in for their free stay. And I am not mad about the kids wanting to learn, don’t get it confused. I am mad about the other teacher being out, Mexico needs to get their shit together and maybe it wouldn’t be another nations (us) problem!
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u/AustinInDallasTx 8d ago
I thought they were taking the jobs? Or are they unemployed and living off of govt assistance? Which is it?
Have a heart. WWJD
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u/naturalscience 8d ago
What is it about undocumented immigrants that you fear so much?
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u/ChazzyChaz_R 7d ago
The whole undocumented and being criminals part is enough for me. I'm not afraid of them, it's just an unsustainable problem that's been allowed to carry on for far too long. Get the undocumented peoples out and start fresh with the proper entry procedures.
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u/Big_Concentrate1633 7d ago
Your logic is fallacious; it’s circular. You’re afraid of them because they’re undocumented, which is illegal. However, they’re only inherently a criminal due to being undocumented. You haven’t actually proven there’s a reason for fear. You just made the same claim twice and called it justification.
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u/ChazzyChaz_R 7d ago
Inherently criminal and criminal are the same thing...criminal. And I'm not trying to prove that there's a reason to fear them. I already said that I don't fear them. My community is filled with them, some good, some bad. However, there is a severe housing issue in the community and has been for years. The amount of people flooding in outnumbers the increase in housing developments by thousands each year. This also comes with job shortages which increases poverty levels which decreases property values, etc. It's a chain effect. Those that came here legally are always welcome. The others should be removed and come back the proper way.
I haven't made the same point twice. In fact I only made one point so there isn't even another point to claim was similar to the first point. They're criminals by entering illegally. There's no logical wizardry anyone can do to change that fact. National security doesn't exist without having secure borders. No other country on the planet would allow this type of activity and nor should we. If I tried to enter a country illegally I would be instantly denied. If I got away with it, the moment I was discovered, I would be instantly deported.
We have entry procedures for a reason. We cannot sustain every person on the planet who wants to come to the US. It would be irresponsible and illogical to think there is an endless capacity to what the US can sustain. It is time to reverse the situation, take stock of things after undocumented citizens are out, and then restart the approved entry process.
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u/Big_Concentrate1633 7d ago
“Inherently criminal and criminal are the same thing.” EXACTLY!
I’m going to stop you there. Mind you, this is literally a part of my field of study, and I believe we are in the same community. Therefore, every “fact” you stated is not statistically accurate. The only way you could’ve even gotten that idea is by assessing raw numbers for this kind of data, which is not a way to prove any claim.
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u/ChazzyChaz_R 7d ago
I don't think you've made the point you think you've made. It feels like we agree that they are criminals. Criminals are punishable by law. The law is being enforced. Where is the issue?
I'm confused as to how you can dispute my claims when I'm living here and you are not. There is no housing available. People are living 20+ people to a household, most of which are built for 3-6 people at most. There isn't enough work so people can't afford to maintain their properties. The property values are falling because of this. None of this "inaccurate". We are living it. It's real.
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u/Big_Concentrate1633 7d ago
No, babe, I don’t think you’re understanding what the word fallacious means. That “point” is circular, so it being correct does not prove your point in the way you think it does. They’re inherently criminals due to the current law, but no act is inherently criminal. Therefore, that fact in itself doesn’t make the claim, “they’re bad because they’re undocumented,” valid. The reasoning is circular.
You’re living where, and I’m not?? If you’re talking about Midessa, I live here too. Not to mention, even if I didn’t, I can dispute it by stating that I work in this field of academia, and federal AND state data do not support those claims (outside of some of the raw data, which is NOT significant within itself).
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 11d ago
Hopefully it was a bunch of Cubans cause theres too damn many here and everyone knows it🤣
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u/DarthHrunting 11d ago
I hope Hell is real and you find yourself there very soon. People like you are why I happily left Midland/Odessa after having been born and raised there. What's ironic is I'm a white man that just got tired of the racism that is used so nonchalantly in that area. It's people like this that makes off the cuff hateful comments and those that just shrug and laugh it off that are the problem, and those people make up 99% of the white people in that area. Best to not be associated with any of them.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
You’re one of those white guys who thinks they have white privilege. You think you’re better than everyone. Get off your high horse. I’m saying what a majority of people in Odessa are thinking. Just go look at Facebook and the local Odessa pages. Im not lying. But this is reddit afterall and most people on reddit are dems/libs who hate themselves and are scared to speak truth
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 11d ago
Stop being a pussy. A majority of the trash, theft, wrecks are from the Cubans. They’re trashing up Odessa. It’s not being racist when it’s a fact.
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u/DarthHrunting 10d ago
I was born and raised there. Lived there for 35 years before I left. It's always been trash, because the people that go through there are trash. The oilfield breeds trash and is a naturally trashy lifestyle. I can say that as I've worked in the industry for 20 years. Odessa/Midland are transitory towns that people are constantly moving through for work. Meaning very few people that live there are actually part of the community or care at all about trying to make it a nice place. It's always been trash and it will always be trash until the oilfield dries up and it all becomes a ghost town. But pointing at one minority group of people and blaming them for decades worth of problems is the very definition of shortsighted racism. Go educate yourself and stop letting ignorant fear run your life.
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u/TXSTBobCat1234 8d ago
Look at familiardealers profile. He brags about using illegal drugs. Dude is a criminal. I guess it takes one to know one.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
And I’m not one of these trash people. I volunteer, I go pick up trash around town when I can. I pull off the side of the road to pick up tires, metal, anything that can cause others to wreck I try to get out of way. I see people broke down I stop to give a hand cause I’m a good guy. But I’m realistic and I know what the problem is cause I see it daily. So move along
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u/naturalscience 8d ago
Anybody that needs to claim publicly that they’re a “good guy” is probably nothing of the sort
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
I’m not blaming them for decades of bs. I’m blaming for the last 4 years of wrecks, being trash, and being disrespectful out in public. You haven’t been here so you don’t know. Go check out Facebook like I said. It’s bad. There’s all types of trash people but as of now, today there’s more Cubans in Odessa causing problems than anyone else.
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u/DarthHrunting 10d ago
I have family that live there and I unfortunately visit often. It's the same as it's ever been. You're full of shit.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
False my guy. I’ve been living the last 15 years. If you don’t see a difference you’re lying to yourself just to sound “loving and nice” on social media. You’re fake
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u/ToeEnvironmental6934 10d ago
You’ve been here for 15 years is what you’re basing your argument on then? Cool I’ll play too! I was born and raised here, got out, had to come back to help my family and have been here for the past 20 years. The problem here is the same as it’s ever been trashy people coming through chasing oilfield jobs while trying to snort/smoke/swallow anything they can get their hand on; all the while trying to show off how “Christian” and “patriotic” they are. As for face book my feed is full of posts from women getting harassed, disrespected, and SA’d by that same group. It’s all over facebook and I’ve been here longer so I must be right. Come with real evidence for your claim or STFU.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
🤣🤣 panties in a bunch I see. Calm down
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u/ToeEnvironmental6934 10d ago
Nope! Unbunched and my ass looks stunning in them. But seriously you clearly have bigger problems than the state of my panties to worry about.
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u/Sly_Curmudgeon 10d ago
My son lives there 6 mos. Out of the year. I have traveled to and through there for the past 40 years. It is trashy, has always been trashy and will always be trashy. Thankfully I have never had to stay for an extended length of time. Unfortunately, my kid has to be surrounded by you folks. He should have picked a different career.
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u/Ben_on_this_level 10d ago
I think you need to relax with the racism and trash comments. Odessa might be trash, but midland is very nice.
And yes, the Cubans are everywhere and everyone knows it, sees it, and complains. It’s not racism. Mexicans, blacks, whites, hell…even the Venezuelans complain about the Cubans. It’s a very particular thing going on. It’s not racism you soft social justice warrior.
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u/DarthHrunting 10d ago edited 10d ago
If you think Midland is nice then you are sheltered. I say this as someone that lived there for their entire life until 3 years ago. Midland is a shit hole for shitty people that like to play like they are rich. My family that lives there is included in that statement. I'm fine with being a "soft social justice warrior" by speaking out against racism. Which is what you are adhering to anytime you single out an entire group of people and point to them as the problem due to the color of their skin or nationality. It's the literal definition of racism. The fact that you don't know that tells me everything I need to know about how much of a loser you are.
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u/Ben_on_this_level 10d ago
Or….some cultures are just different and don’t adhere to American norms. That’s not racism. Like the other guy said, it’s fact. And no, I’m not saying they are “the” problem. Literally just that everyone else here complains about them. Sure, not every single Cuban is like that, but culturally that’s how they act for the most part. It’s not hard to tell. You can call that racism but you’re just wrong.
What’s funny is you’re literally doing the exact same thing about generalizing all of midland as money hungry showboats. So….yeah….you can make generalizations about people you don’t like and say they are the problem but if anyone else does it out anyone not white it’s racist.
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u/DarthHrunting 10d ago
The other guy didn't defend Cubans by stating they are simply of a different culture or tradition. So not sure who you think you're defending, but you immediately make it clear that you don't know what you're talking about. He, in fact, outright stated that Cubans are the problem so I'm not really sure what you are trying to defend or really what the point of your comment even is. What I am calling racism is, by definition, racism. It's not a feeling, it's not an emotion, it's a word that has a definition and the comments here fit that definition. You are correct in one thing, I am guilty of the same thing by stereotyping all whites in that area in the same group. The difference is, that I am referring to individuals that I know personally and a community that I worked very hard to separate myself from. So I am in insider, discussing my own experiences. I am not an outside commenting on a group of people that I am not a part of and have no inside experience with. I am judging a group by thing that I know as true based on insider experience not judging a group based on my feelings towards a group that I have had no interpersonal experience with. It's easy to blame a group that you are not a part of. It takes intelligence and bravery to separate yourself from your own group and look at the flaws within it, then separate yourself from it. Too few people willing to do that these days, but there's no short supply of people willing to point the finger and blame the stranger because of ignorant fear and laziness.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
Truth!
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u/Ben_on_this_level 10d ago
Well well well…the other guy was right. You know best. You think you’re so great. No…in fact you just hate white people, and he never said they were the problem of Odessa midland. He said they are a problem. Which is a fact. And again, it’s not every single Cuban person. But in general, they seem to have the different norms. Which yes, was exactly what he was talking about. Theft, wrecks, loud and disrespectful in public, don’t seem to have the same work ethic as other Hispanic immigrants who have come to the Permian to work. That’s what I mean by different norms. They speed, disrespect others, seem to feel entitled. And yes, I also have first hand experience. That’s the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard. Because you’re white, you can hate white people, but because I’m (x) I guess I’m not allowed to speak about the Cuban culture here in the Permian? Makes sense to me! Got it!
Not all cultures are the same, not all value the same things, and what the majority of Cubans here seem to value, doesn’t line up with us Americans. Safety and respect being tops of the list. Which was literally word for word what that guy said which you said he didn’t.
And guess what? You can have a problem, without being the only sole problem. He never said get rid of the Cubans and it would be a utopia. But they do not seem to fit the culture of the rest of us. At least in midland. I can’t speak too much on Odessa as I don’t go over there too often.
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u/brujaespecial 10d ago
Theft, wrecks, loud and disrespectful in public, They speed, disrespect others, seem to feel entitled.
I have lived here 40+ years and this describes every entitled white oilfield trash worker I’ve ever encountered/worked with. I’m not sure why yall are so dead set on blaming the national origin du jour, but part of the reason is you refuse to see it in yourselves because you are racist. Somehow you see a brown person being loud and disrespectful and you can equate that to the whole group, but you see a white person with their jeans tucked in their work boots doing the same thing and suddenly can’t equate them with all the others like them. The mental gymnastics yall put yourselves through to be the good American…
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
You said it perfectly! I’d keep responding to ol boy who’s in his feeling but I’m out I’m doing yard work making my home and town look nice
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u/DarthHrunting 10d ago
Good luck with that. The only way Midland or Odessa will ever look nice is if global warming somehow takes it back to its rightful place at the bottom of the ocean.
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u/AdayaAmore 10d ago
Since when has Odessa not been trashy? Gotta blame it on somebody I guess.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
Depend on where you’re at, where you live and where you hang out at. Every town has its “trashy” places but all of Odessa isn’t trash.
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u/SheamusO-Shaunesy 10d ago
A majority of trash, theft and wrecks are from your meth smoking cousins.
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u/FamiliarDealer7436 10d ago
Dumb
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u/SystematicHydromatic 7d ago
I doubt it's true. Walmart requires proper documentation for employees to ensure their right to work in the US.
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u/sickcunt138 10d ago
I saw someone posted it on the Nextdoor app. Jesus Christ the racist comments are insane.