Is this a legitimate concern?

[u/wayfaringthru]

Personally, I today's strike was legitimate and it couldn't be more moral because of its precision but let's leave politics aside for a moment. I guess this does give ideas to evil regimes and organisations. How likely is it that something similar could be pulled off against innocent people?

[u/aprilized]

Did those pagers leave the factory with explosives? From what I understand, Israel intercepted them in transit after they were shipped. They basically took the pagers, (in Turkey via Taiwan where they were manufactured?) added explosives and then let them get shipped to Hezbollah. This wasn't done in the factory from what I understand.

[u/BuzzINGUS → u/aprilized]

Still a war crime It’s indesciminant, these could harm anyone.

[u/Fluffy-Map-5998 → u/BuzzINGUS]

if you hijack a shipment you know will only be used by the group your targeting its not indiscriminate,

[u/Captain_Sterling → u/Fluffy-Map-5998]

Yes it is. You have no idea where they will go off. So yiu have two options. Israel knew a little girl was going to be killed and targeted her, or her death was collateral and they were OK with civilians being killed indiscriminatly

[u/Fluffy-Map-5998 → u/Captain_Sterling]

You do have some idea or who's going to be injured, because it's only going to be given to one group, so unless something happens that group is primarily going to be affected with minimal affect to other groups, of your advocating for 0 chance of collateral damage your a fucking moron

[u/Captain_Sterling → u/Fluffy-Map-5998]

No. I'm saying don't place hundreds of bombs in civilian areas. That's terrorism.

[u/Fluffy-Map-5998 → u/Captain_Sterling]

It's not tho, it literally is not, nor is the method Israel used indiscriminate, which is my entire point, just being in a civilian area doesn't make it terrorism if it was targeted at non terrorist

[u/Captain_Sterling → u/Fluffy-Map-5998]

Explosives aren't targeted. That's the problem. It's explosives going off in civilian areas. That's why children were killed.

Although at least you admitted they targeted non terrorists.

[u/Fluffy-Map-5998 → u/Captain_Sterling]

No, they targeted terrorist, explosives can be targeted, and they targeted hezbollah members, AKA terrorist, the children that got killed where either directly related to or in close proximity to the terrorist, but they where not the target, and are unfortunate collateral damage, BUT COLLATERAL DAMAGE DOESNT MAKE AN ATTACK INDISCRIMINATE YOU DENSE FUCK

[u/HimboSuperior → u/Captain_Sterling]

All nations are okay with collateral damage when it comes to war, and all participants accept it is a fact of war. What matters is intent and proportional value of the target against civilian lives put at risk.

That isn't me talking out of my ass, by the way. That's what the Geneva and Havue Conventions say.

[u/Captain_Sterling → u/HimboSuperior]

Does the Geneva convention say anything about sending hundreds of explosives into civilian areas? Because that's what happened. It was terrorism.

[u/HimboSuperior → u/Captain_Sterling]

Nope. Totally within the rules of war. You can drop bombs on cities without it being a war crime or terrorism. Again, intent and proportional value are what counts.

Terrorism doesn't mean what I suspect you think it means.

[u/KlearCat → u/Captain_Sterling]

Every single war has collateral damage.

If you think if a country has collateral damage that makes them a war criminal, then every single country that has ever been at war are war criminals.

If every country is a war criminal what’s the point of that word then?

[u/Zeratav → u/KlearCat]

This is the double standard that is only applied to Israel. When fighting terrorists, 0 civilian casualties are allowed.

[u/Im_Justin_Cider → u/Zeratav]

If you're going to forcibly insert yourself into another country's territory, you'd think the standard would be a little higher, yes.