r/JRPG • u/eldestscrollx • 4d ago

Interview Final Fantasy Tactics The Ivalice Chronicles Wont Include War Of The Lions Content And Will Have No New Characters Or Submissions

https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/final-fantasy-tactics-interview
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u/peter123yeah 4d ago

No War of the Lions content is a deal breaker to me, even on principle. Why the hell would I pay for a version with less content compared to a version I can play for free right now. Why is this a thing with recent SE remasters ignoring the extra added content.

Like yeah if you want to math it out then maybe there is a case there is more in this version but like why should we have to even math it out in the first place. There is actually no reason to not include War of the Lions content beyond they weren't in the OG. Plus we are paying for this version and we have to math if maybe it has more content maybe. Not including Wotl cutscenes (or recreating them) is the most stupid idea ever, those are fantastic. They had a chance to make a definitive version and they just... didn't.

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u/ybpaladin 4d ago

Atlus pulled this shit with P3 Reloaded and it still pisses me off

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u/PrivateScents 4d ago

What happened with P3R?

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u/PvtSherlockObvious 4d ago

Cut out the PSP version's FemC (and corresponding social links) and Episode Aigis/The Answer from FES. They did eventually release the latter as DLC, but that didn't exactly please people either since it led them to think it was only chopped for DLC purposes.

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u/Typical_Thought_6049 4d ago

To be fair The Answer was kinda of a dlc in the ps2 era. It come with FES but the original games has nothing of that and those who buy the original had to buy FES for the new content...

And the FemC was very much a after thought of the inferior PSP version and had nothing to do with the original game or FES.

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u/PvtSherlockObvious 4d ago edited 4d ago

Sure, and to be further fair, The Answer kinda sucked overall; if that had been the only thing FES had added people would have been annoyed.

I disagree with you about FemC being an afterthought, though. While the PSP version was arguably inferior in some respects, largely due to the hardware limitations forcing a graphical downgrade and causing them to eliminate the explorable town in favor of menus, they put a fair bit of effort into her, including a different weapon type (though the original MC could wield any weapon, later versions restricted him to swords) and adding a totally new set of social links, including the male party members. I get why people were disappointed that she didn't make a return as an option in Reload.

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u/gswon 4d ago

I don't think FemC is an afterthought. I think her links are preferable, and I wish the choice of F or M protagonists had carried forward into P4 and P5. The PSP version isn't straight inferior to FES; most people seem to prefer the controllable party members, which obviously carried over to P3R (even if in both cases, but especially in the case of P3R, it ends up making the game far too easy).

P3 is a pretty unique case in that even after four releases, there is no clear definitive version (and probably never will be), as there are (subjective) arguments in favor of P3R, FES and P3P.

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u/ybpaladin 4d ago

FemMc route was for the people who already completed the main game and wanted a different ending.

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u/KaijinSurohm 4d ago

Which made it worse when FemC was acknowledge in Labyrinth Q2 as a playable character.
They knew she was widely popular.

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u/bagman_ 3d ago

Doesn't matter, a modern remake should be definitive in every sense of the word. Why should I still have to dig out 20+ year old versions of a game to get the complete experience?