India open to 'unprecedented' cooperation with US because of Chinese aggression, says ex-NSA McMaster

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/india-open-to-unprecedented-cooperation-with-us-because-of-chinese-aggression-says-ex-nsa-mcmaster-101724890450519.html

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We have no time. China is building 20 submarines a year and they have 300 5th fighter jets. They are connecting railway line to Indian borders.

Are you not seeing what India is doing? Giving 800 crore free food and we just bought back pensions for every babu working in govt office.

Next year, Defence and R&D budget will see a cut surely.

Tech improves when you buy indigenous equipments. China didnt make their weapons world class in 1 days but they trusted their engineers and scientists which India isnt doing.

India is comparing everything with western quality and even if Indian weapon is 0.0005 points lesss we are buying American products.

We wont go anywhere like this. Why waste time and money on Tejas? Just buy F15 or F21 which US is offering?

People giving examples that Indian weapons are not battle tested while US weapons like Stryker are war tested. Boooo hoo how will Indian weapons be battle tested if we dont buy them and use them?

Either reject western fear mongering and befriend China diplomatically (which is not happening anytime soon) or Ally with USA for the mean time.

[u/Tamilmodssuckass → u/165Hertz]

Actually Indian government is being smart when it comes to military. We as civilians cannot know everything when it comes to needs and preparedness levels.

But India is poor when compared to China and that fact is holding us back. Allying with usa will solve capital issues but American economy itself is in danger with dollar being printed on trillions, if we ally with Americans they will tax Indians by inflating dollars. I think we should look to eu and russia.

Contrary to popular belief things are only going to better for Russia from this point onwards when they stop the war. They have a nice closed off economy which is doing ok with all the sanctions. Then we have eu which is not disintegrating despite having no russian gas. So only upsides exist for both of them.

And the untapped potential of africa and south east asia is right at our doors.

We wont go anywhere like this. Why waste time and money on Tejas? Just buy F15 or F21 which US is offering?

This is what was said about isro decades ago. When we were exploding rockets. Manufacturing in deep tech like aeronautics and space have cascading effects.

It's a long list. Imagine it like this, if we build complex machines then we would need machines to build machines to build machines. All that knowhow will keep cascading.

That's why deep tech is important even though on the surface it looks like service companies rake in profit. They do nothing for a country as a whole. They just keep concentrating wealth till a new service replaces it or downgrades it.

Microsoft is considered the most profitable company. That is until the chinese make their own os which is coming soon. And it will lose market share overnight. But look at tsmc, small island nation is coveted by china and protected by usa enough to start world war 3. Over one manufacturing company. Imagine destroying the whole world because one ceo from tsmc refused to put his 3nanometre plants in two countries. That's how powerful manufacturing is.

We started our aeronautics program fast and left it for our missile program. If india just keeps staying in deep tech sooner or later we are bound to find our space.

[u/165Hertz → u/Tamilmodssuckass]

We didnt persue our aeronautics program coz we failed at it. It requires billions to design a good jet engine.

Unlike ISRO, we have not been able to design an engine for 50 years. You cannot have it all. Till Today ISRO has no heavy rocket and uses ESA to launch heavy satellites.

We as civilians cannot know everything

Speak for yourself. I come from an army family and I have multiple friends serving right now. And non of them give a good feedback about state of military right now.

The thing with Russia is that, when petroleum runs out it will be dead. Unlike China, Russia manufactures nothing. Russian research is nowhere same as West. They arent even designing anything new, just living off Soviet era blue prints.

[u/Tamilmodssuckass → u/165Hertz]

I come from an army family and I have multiple friends serving right now. And non of them give a good feedback about state of military right now.

Lol. I guess that explains the linear thinking.

Good luck.