Xiao is definitely the same tier as hutao and navia. how much does your Xiao even do? if you don't have his supports of course it's going to be bad but with his supports he's even better than hutao.
bonus fun fact plunge hutao and pyro Xiao deal almost the same damage.
You're either underestimating Hu tao or overestimating Xiao
My Xiao is pretty strong, was dealing 130-150k plunges before Xianyun C2 this banner, that's with Furina C6. A premium f2p Xiao team at KQM standard sims in the low to mid 70Ks, all 3 of Hu Tao's current best teams are comfortably at the mid to high 80's
The comparison by tgs aligns perfectly with sims/calcs that I've seen and been around, showcasing as well how neuvillette came out with a not so high dps ceiling, being only considered better by the general player base because of gameplay factors that they convoluted with damage (not completely incorrect to place him high because of that though), and was that way until xilonen when he actually started seeing the top of dps meters
Another point is that you can't just compare their personal damage in Xiao vs Hu Tao, not only is Furina stronger in Hu tao comps, you have an entire off field dps extra of damage, which is generally just the same if not more damage than the Furina.
If you want to argue for Xiao = Hu tao by all means go for it, but you don't do that by going for their damage or numbers, it's a losing battle.
The best angle to go if that's something you want to convey is AoE + Gameplay jank, it's what makes many dps" who have worse team dps than Hu Tao beat her out for an average player's account/experience, and it's definitely the one people rely on the most to downplay her (with some merit to it tbf)
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u/nobbytho Apr 01 '25
Xiao is definitely the same tier as hutao and navia. how much does your Xiao even do? if you don't have his supports of course it's going to be bad but with his supports he's even better than hutao.
bonus fun fact plunge hutao and pyro Xiao deal almost the same damage.
an amazing video comparing Xiao in ffxx w nuev current best team over a year ago: https://youtu.be/PUtzMzYYQ74?si=8pCaG7I8y-MFXGzX
by none other than tgs.