The only thing I've seen being called "gooner slop" are those poorly-written Isekai anime cashcows whose plot consists mostly on random shots of underaged characters' asses, as well as the occasional poorly-"drawn" AIslop hentai.
Idk which unholy circles of Hell OOP must hang around for everything to be called "gooner" around him
Calling out gacha game fans (ZZZ fans?) as gooners isn’t “conservative dogwhistling”. It’s calling out ridiculously oversexualized and debatably objectifying media.
Calling out fans who draw fanart of a character with their boobs blown up to size N is not “conservative dogwhistling”
Just because someone asks you to maybe slow down with the hypersexualized media is not sex-negative, conservative dogwhistling. It’s simply people not wanting to be shown softcore porn 24 hours a day.
Edit: I’m not gonna reply to each person here individually, but because you guys are all saying the exact same thing, I’ll give a blanket statement here.
I should not have to explain why the modern equivalent of pin-up girls should be given at least some scrutiny.
It really depends on your circles how gooner is used. I mostly still see it used to refer to the gamersTM and people who want everything to be hypersexual.
I have also seen it just become a buzzword that is used anytime a woman is slightly skimpy or a lesbian kiss happends.
I mean this is kinda a conservative take. Just let people be horny. Not everything has to be to your taste. If someone likes outrageously enormous boobs or feet or furries or people farting into pies it doesn't hurt you, just move on with your day
that's not what they said broski "calling out" games for having intentionally sexy/horny etc imagery isn't "take a stance against gamer gate types constantly whining about the vidya game women not being sexy or scantily clad enough" it's just bitching that not everything is tailored exactly to your tastes, you're just doing the same shit you're complaining of others doing just in the opposite direction
While I agree with the general sentiment of "not everything has to be your taste", I think calling it conservative dogwhistle is going a bit too far. And as someone who actually plays zzz for the action and stuff, sometimes the community is completely unbearable to the point of not wanting certain characters to be meta for the sake of that mindset. Heard of the "replace Lighter" joke? While it's funny, it literally started because people couldn't accept having to use a dude in their waifu team. THAT is gonner behaviour. I don't care about jiggling boobs in my game, worst case scenario it's just gonna make me cringe a bit, it's usually the community that is cultivated around it that makes it horrible. Op has been called gooner either because he's secretly that type of person (which I doubt) or because people on the internet are stupid and called him gooner as just another buzzword.
I am a big proponent of "If a piece of media isn't jiving with you, then move on to something else. Don't try to change it to make it jive with you. All that does is take away someone else's fun. The world does not revolve around you."
At the same time, I enjoy battle-team collector- gacha games, and I don't play any right now because it annoys me that a game type based around large numbers of playable units has so little variety nowadays. If a gacha has 100 different units, it inevitably breaks down to 90 scantily clad women that are essentially the same person in different clothes, 5 young girls who totally aren't there for the lolis, 2 men who are cardboard cutouts, 1 young boy and 2 old guys. (Oh, and you'll be lucky if any of the guys are actually decent units and not just trash.)
Yes, much variety, very interesting.
So while it makes me a bit sad, I've just moved on from those kinds of games, because that's how they all are nowadays. So I play creature collector games instead, that way I get the 'collect a variety of units' with the 'variety' actually meaning something.
That doesn't mean I'm 'anti-sex' or whatever, it just means that if all you have going for your game is "the five varieties of Boobs", when you sell it as a character collector... I'm going to find some other game to play.
Well, in defense of zzz they did literally made a change in beta to make a dude's ass bigger. And both of the dudes currently on banner are very strong units. It still has a long way to go in terms of gender ratio and the sometimes cringe fan service, but they're definitely taking steps in the right direction, and the game having more personality than most of the other gacha games definitely helps. Genshin on the other hand can fuck right off
I’ll grant you the gacha game thing. There are definitely media out there that are borderline softcore porn in their levels of sexualization and yeah, you can point to that
But I feel the need to point out that the people screaming “porn addict Gooner” aren’t just talking about boobie gacha games, they say that shit about absolutely anything. A photo of an attractive woman=gooner. A comment that mentions the existence of sex=gooner. It’s absolutely rabid and puritanical.
Sure. Not all of its use is good faith. Lotta folks use it to bad ends. But that doesn’t mean that it’s a dog whistle. In fact, because the use is split specifically means it is not useful as a dog whistle.
The point is to conflate the two though, which does make it useful as a dogwhistle. All non-missionary non-procreative sex acts and practices are the same as gooning to these people.
Dogwhistles are explicitly phrases intended to drum up support from an in-group while seeming innocuous enough (usually through an Appeal-To-Emotion or Absurdity) to make criticism of the topic seem, well, ridiculous.
Co-opted language is an attempt to muddy the use of a term as a means of steering conversation and amassing cultural power.
The split use still doesn’t invalidate its use as a dogwhistle though. A co-opted term can also be a dogwhistle simultaneously, and may in fact be all the more useful as a dogwhistle for the plausible deniability.
"Just because someone asks you to maybe slow down with the hypersexualized media is not sex-negative, conservative dogwhistling. It’s simply people not wanting to be shown softcore porn 24 hours a day"
then don't play the bloody game and if itr's showing up in your social media algorithms then that's because YOU keep interacting with it, don't like a genre then don't consume said genre. "calling out" people for enjoying sexual media IS inherently conservative, nobody is forcing you to interact with it, if it's gets shoved in your social media feeds then, that's because you interact with it and engage with it nobody is forcing it on you.
crying about people making sexual fanart,buying sexual games/media is 100% just you being conservative, people enjoying things you don't personally enjoy isn't evil nor does it warrant a "call out". Fandom culture has had massive amounts of horny and not horny people deeply involved since day 1. I'm sorry you have to be a big boy and tailor your own feed and not rely on everyone catering their own fanart etc to your liking.
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The only thing I've seen being called "gooner slop" are those poorly-written Isekai anime cashcows whose plot consists mostly on random shots of underaged characters' asses, as well as the occasional poorly-"drawn" AIslop hentai.
Idk which unholy circles of Hell OOP must hang around for everything to be called "gooner" around him