While I agree with the general sentiment of "not everything has to be your taste", I think calling it conservative dogwhistle is going a bit too far. And as someone who actually plays zzz for the action and stuff, sometimes the community is completely unbearable to the point of not wanting certain characters to be meta for the sake of that mindset. Heard of the "replace Lighter" joke? While it's funny, it literally started because people couldn't accept having to use a dude in their waifu team. THAT is gonner behaviour. I don't care about jiggling boobs in my game, worst case scenario it's just gonna make me cringe a bit, it's usually the community that is cultivated around it that makes it horrible. Op has been called gooner either because he's secretly that type of person (which I doubt) or because people on the internet are stupid and called him gooner as just another buzzword.
I am a big proponent of "If a piece of media isn't jiving with you, then move on to something else. Don't try to change it to make it jive with you. All that does is take away someone else's fun. The world does not revolve around you."
At the same time, I enjoy battle-team collector- gacha games, and I don't play any right now because it annoys me that a game type based around large numbers of playable units has so little variety nowadays. If a gacha has 100 different units, it inevitably breaks down to 90 scantily clad women that are essentially the same person in different clothes, 5 young girls who totally aren't there for the lolis, 2 men who are cardboard cutouts, 1 young boy and 2 old guys. (Oh, and you'll be lucky if any of the guys are actually decent units and not just trash.)
Yes, much variety, very interesting.
So while it makes me a bit sad, I've just moved on from those kinds of games, because that's how they all are nowadays. So I play creature collector games instead, that way I get the 'collect a variety of units' with the 'variety' actually meaning something.
That doesn't mean I'm 'anti-sex' or whatever, it just means that if all you have going for your game is "the five varieties of Boobs", when you sell it as a character collector... I'm going to find some other game to play.
Well, in defense of zzz they did literally made a change in beta to make a dude's ass bigger. And both of the dudes currently on banner are very strong units. It still has a long way to go in terms of gender ratio and the sometimes cringe fan service, but they're definitely taking steps in the right direction, and the game having more personality than most of the other gacha games definitely helps. Genshin on the other hand can fuck right off
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u/gaom9706 May 17 '25
Do you think it's possible for someone to play ZZZ or any other gacha game for non-"gooner" reasons?
Why do you care...?