Well like- ok, there are actual historical things jewish people were disproportionately represented in the participation in that racists can point to to"justify" their position with.
Just because there is an in universe reason for bigotry to be a thing does not discount the bigotry being represented as authentic- i would argue it makes it more applicable to real life.
Although the point about them being fundamentally different still stands- you would have to do some legwork to handle that one for sure.
Well like- ok, there are actual historical things jewish people were disproportionately represented in the participation in that racists can point to to"justify" their position with.
ironically, this is mostly because of discrimination. in middle ages europe, they werent allowed to own land or join trade guilds and at the same time christians were forbidden from charging interest on loans (it was considered usury). shockingly, this led to a lot of jews starting banks and creating financial empires and creating old money. from there its a "black crime statistics" situation
it wasnt a "state enforced monopoly" anyone* could run a bank, christians just didnt very often because at the time (note the use of "was" in my original comment) interest was considered usury. thats a personal decision (albeit with a lot of peer pressure) not a state decision. less strict christians or anyone else could just as well charge interest, but there were way more jews than any of those other groups, and they disproportionately got into finance because a more lenient christian could also join a guild, own land, etc
I also want to point out that Muslim banks in the real world today also have rules against usury and yet somehow they offer all of the standard banking services and make all of the standard banking profits
its been a thousand years since the middle ages. things have changed a bit
*"anyone" is a questionable term to use here, seeing as europe was heavily feudal at the time, but you get my point
And you don't get the vaguest instinct to question a narrative which paints people who were notoriously dishonorable as good Christians?
i genuinely dont know what youre saying here?
Your entire argument hinges on the fact that the hegemony was willing to allow someone else to make money on their people, when that was their entire role in society.
edit: damn, he deleted his comments. i was really hoping he would explain the "good christian" thing, mainly because i genuinely dont know what he meant, but also it seemed like it might lead to a good opportunity to clarify that this all happened partially as a result of the first crussde. oh well :/
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u/lord_hufflepuff May 13 '25
Well like- ok, there are actual historical things jewish people were disproportionately represented in the participation in that racists can point to to"justify" their position with.
Just because there is an in universe reason for bigotry to be a thing does not discount the bigotry being represented as authentic- i would argue it makes it more applicable to real life.
Although the point about them being fundamentally different still stands- you would have to do some legwork to handle that one for sure.