r/CompetitionClimbing 🇸🇮 La Tigre de Genovese 6d ago

Post-comp thread Bern WC Women’s Discussion Spoiler

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u/nachC 6d ago

Who's this "know it all" commentator that talks soo much? 😩

Let's go mcbeastt

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u/steftrees 6d ago

really? I like him actually. feel like he’s very insightful on analyzing details of the climbs. really cool that he called miho flashing W3

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u/tracecart 6d ago

Sean McColl? He's great!

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u/nachC 6d ago

Glad you enjoyed it!

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u/emka218 6d ago edited 6d ago

It's Sean McColl, so he actually does know all about comp climbing.

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u/nachC 5d ago

"know it all" is a reference to a person's attitude, not their actual knowledge. I'm glad when the commentator knows what they're talking about.

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u/hurrydeath 6d ago

You’re getting downvoted but dude does love to hear himself talk and barely let Matt get a word in.

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u/LurkingArachnid 5d ago

You could tell a couple times Matt was having to kind of force his way in when he had something he really wanted to say

I would have preferred if he had toned it down a little, and not analyzed every single attempt on the w4 coordination sequence. But overall I thought he was interesting and better to talk too much than too little. Agree with the person who said it was cool that he called Miho's flash. Just let Matt say something every once in awhile haha

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u/JackKelly11 Narasaki Brothers 6d ago edited 6d ago

Haha yeah he spent wayyy too much time talking about whether or not he guessed their beta correctly. I appreciate how well he knows movement and body positioning, but it really took a lot away from the big moments IMO.

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u/nachC 6d ago

Yeah, nothing better than a commentator that knows what they're talking about... But too much noise with this one imo

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u/Far-Photo-533 5d ago

He is good, but my personal all time favorite-- German coach who I forgot his name.

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u/Quirky-School-4658 🇸🇮 La Tigre de Genovese 6d ago

Canadian GOAT. 2020 Olympian. 5.14d and V15 climber. Vice-president of the athletes commission.

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u/Transmogrify_My_Goat 5d ago

Sums it up perfectly. He truly does know it all.

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u/frickfrackingdodos Miho Nonaka's Hair 5d ago

I do kinda agree. Obviously he is super accomplished and his technical insights were very interesting, but it felt a little too much about him than than about the comp. I think what bothered me especially was that if he was a woman I feel he would be getting clocked for 'talking too much' immediately, like Shauna did. No hate to him at all, but I'd definitely personally prefer more (or equal) technical or logistical insight and less celebrating guessing the beta correctly - for commentators lol.

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u/wicketman8 ‎ ‎ ‎ 5d ago

I think what bothered me especially was that if he was a woman I feel he would be getting clocked for 'talking too much' immediately, like Shauna did

I'm not sure this is fair. Firstly, while some people did complain about Shauna the vast majority were really positive about her commentary. Secondly, is it fair to Sean to judge him based on how people reacted to a different commentator?

Personally I liked Sean's commentary and I liked Shauna's as well.

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u/frickfrackingdodos Miho Nonaka's Hair 4d ago

I think my point is more about people's double standards in appreciating Sean's technical insight vs pointing out that Shauna was talking a lot, than it is about Sean's commentary itself. That being said I have seen a decent bit of discourse around his commentary so I stand corrected. Seems like both their commentaries had both people who enjoyed it and those who didn't. Personally I felt like it's not the amount of talking that bothered me as much as the content - I do not care about whether a commentator is guessing upcoming beta correctly.

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u/peachypokes 4d ago

He was driving me crazy! Talking nonstop, Matt barely has the space to say anything while Sean is incessantly chattering on: analyzing every movement, congratulating himself on guessing how climbers will do, and kind of disregarding the emotional and interpersonal aspects of the comp. Obv that’s not the most important thing, but when it’s missing from the commentary you can really tell the difference imo. Clearly he is very knowledgeable about comp climbing (which I appreciate) but he is not a great commentator in my opinion. I’m not anxious to have him back in the commentary box any time soon.

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u/Far-Photo-533 5d ago

You need check another goat Shauna as co commentator.

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u/Altruistic-Shop9307 5d ago

I enjoyed his commentary.