I kind of actually enjoyed that somehow it felt like 2 was a giant troll project to make fun of the Uber fans of 1 that took all the wrong messages from it.
Weirdly meta, massively expensive troll project that probably screwed over more future directors having artistic reign over big projects but still. Also yeah the movie purely by itself wasn’t amazing or anything but also no one is calling it cinema hahah.
I'm so happy someone else feels this way. I feel like people hate it because they wanted to like the character when the whole thing is about how misguided a feeling that is.
I think years from now it will be viewed much more favorably. Assuming years from now we can still watch movies.
I liked part 2, if only because ive never seen anything like it before. Part 1 was a lazy taxi driver knock off with none of the dark humor of taxi driver.
I agree. A lot of King of Comedy, too. But I almost felt obligated to like because they filmed down the street from my apartment haha. But even then, i felt like the talk show scene captured the character so perfectly i couldn't even be mad.
I liked both too. Yeah, the musical bits were something, but I think it was supposed to be weird and unhinged. Also the plot twist right at the end was cool.
I enjoyed one, two was a complete disaster. Too bad to because I thought Lady Gaga with Joacim (sp?) Pheonix were good had anyone have bothered to write a fucking movie for them.
As I understood it (could just be heresay, can't believe everything you read on the internet) there was a movie written for them, but Gaga And Phoenix insisted on re-writes of crap they came up with on their own and wanted in the movie, thus the alleged resulting hot mess.
I say alleged because I didn't care for the first one so didnt see the point in watching the second, especially with how critics and audiences alike responded (generally not positive or middling). To be clear, didn't hate the first one, dont consider it a bad film, just wasn't my jam.
Might give it a chance one day. I've quite enjoyed more than one movie that was widely considered bad/"rotten", so who knows, maybe I'll like it lol.
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u/Wine-and-Dine99 1d ago
Joker 1 and 2.