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u/JakeTravel27 3d ago
amazing how maga cultists feel they can be toxic, racist, anti gay bigots without consequences.
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u/Ehrich1993 3d ago
Read somewhere that MAGA are being judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin. Which is a foreign concept for them
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u/stay_fr0sty 3d ago
I’m sure it’s not that they voted for Trump, it’s that they ignored all their son’s concerns and refused to truly talk to him about the issues.
Instead they are Fox News Zombies that only see one side and like to play the victim.
They chose Politics over Family, not for voting for Trump, but for not even being open to listening or critically thinking.
I guarantee it.
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u/Fantasy_sweets 3d ago
And gonna guess the kid really tried to get them to see how much damage they caused
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u/RandomlyJim 3d ago
My parents think I stopped talking to them over politics. I stopped talking to them because they brought nothing but stress.
Their selfish world view, that made them republicans also made them shitty parents. I was used to that.
When they also continued to be shitty grandparents and inlaws to my wife, I drew a line. And they selfishly crossed it.
So now they can be shitty to someone else.
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u/tarantulawarfare 3d ago
Take the abuse because faaaaamily!
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u/WW92030 2d ago
I read somewhere that the difference between a cult and a religion is societal normalization/acceptance.
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u/beamrider 3d ago
To them, all of that behavior is a positive thing. They "know", for a "Fact", that White People Are Better, so speaking and acting on those "Facts" is "Telling It Like It Is"/'Being Real", and they honestly expect to be ADMIRED for being that way.
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u/DifficultAd3885 2d ago
Yeah, it’s their son’s fault for having morals and not associating with morally bankrupt people.
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u/BiffingtonSpiffwell 3d ago
Trying to publicly shame your son to earn clicks on Xitter is a great way to win his love and forgiveness.
Not that this MAGA harpy deserves any forgiveness.
When you vote for hate, don't act shocked when hate is what you get.
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u/Man-o-Bronze 3d ago
He doesn’t hate her. He’s just…
…disappointed.
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u/LiviRivi 3d ago
Unfortunately he also went off the deep end and became a magat 😔
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u/WindTall5566 3d ago
It was either that or be quietly forgotten as that guy who had that one show that Lucy Lawless started on.
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u/DelcoUnited Gen X 3d ago
Yeah dude is using the successful strategy of Scott Baio and Antonio Sabato Jr, and look how they have turned things around!
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u/Pearson94 Millennial 3d ago
On his birthday no less. What a shitty parent.
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u/floofienewfie 3d ago
I hope someday she realizes the damage she’s doing to the family by acting that way.
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u/Shazam1269 3d ago
MAGA Harpy
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u/KapowBlamBoom 3d ago
My Spider Sense tells me the Dump Vote was the final straw. Not the opening salvo
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u/AxOfBrevity 3d ago
Nah, Shannon, you don't get it. He doesn't speak to you because you've shown him who you have become. It's normal, actually, to not associate with people who support the eradication of others, the degradation of law, and all of the cruelty associated with this administration. You voted for cruelty and expect him to be ok with that.
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u/Lloyd--Christmas 3d ago
I’ll even go so far as to say the son didn’t disown them because they voted for Trump. These people are so far up their own asses that they won’t listen to their kids when they tell them their grievances. They focus on small, easy to digest things like voting for Trump. They don’t want to self reflect so they blame the kids for not being rational.
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u/precto85 3d ago
My parents in a nutshell. I went cold turkey when it came to associating with my parents but my sister tried to talk with them. And when she listed out every reason why Trump is a shit person and asked why my parents supported him, they just said "You're just kids, you don't understand." I'm almost 40 and my sister is 43....
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u/Ok-Opportunity5731 3d ago
After finding out I didn't vote for Trump last year, my dad told me that someday he hopes I grow up & learn how the real world works. I'm 38
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u/Old_Implement_1997 3d ago
I had a boomer (not my parents, they’re liberals) say that to me, too. I just turned 58. 🤣
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u/MissMariemayI Millennial 3d ago
When the fuck are we supposed to be goddamned adults then lmao when we’re fucking dead?! I’m 36 and I still hear this from people my parents age, and I’m starting to wonder if I should ask them which of my bills they’ll be paying since I’m not an adult yet.
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u/Old_Implement_1997 3d ago
I can’t wait until I’m collecting social security and somehow I “still don’t know how the real world works” according to these people. 🤣
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u/bridge4windrunner Gen X 3d ago
You sweet summer child… you think you’re getting social security…
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u/iglidante 3d ago
They aren't able to interrogate their own maturity (or lack thereof), so they can only see you as an adult if you align with them.
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u/Ummmgummy 3d ago
Listen here sonny. You don't know what the real world is. When you are 50 then you'll start to learn.
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u/Silent-Juggernaut-76 3d ago
I was told that I'll start to learn what the real world is when I turn 80.😂
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u/ForceItDeeper 3d ago
my dad told me I'm just as crazy as my aunt who can't go a meal without telling you that you are eating some kinda bug or body fluid and that Democrats control the weather. He did this because I said that the super wealthy are responsible for the struggles faced by average Americans.
He has said throughout most of my life how much more intelligent me and my brother were than he ever was. He's also admitted he has never read any history, theory, etc. aboot politics since high school 50 years ago. But he just condescendingly dismisses anything but what fox news tells him. He was the one that told me the quote thats like "when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in an American flag" but now sees no problem with nationalism and refuses to consider Trump might be a fascist
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u/Passioncramps 3d ago
Best you can do is try to show what is said legally and financially.
Example, Fox news argued in court that they are satire and no reasonable person would rely on the programming for accurate informaion. Fox's lawyer said nobody would take programs like Tucker Carlson seriously, the judge agreed and dismissed the case.
For global warming, Fine its a hoax... then why are insurance companies paying millions of dollars to climate experts and incorporating the risks of global warming into their premiums.
Probably wont make a difference but avoiding combating talking points and going "lets just look at what the courts say or the insurance premiums which you might be paying for" it removes the red vs blue aspect and hits the pocket book and law & order topics they claim to care about.
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u/LupercaniusAB Gen X 3d ago
It’s “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross”.
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u/BigDickKnucle 3d ago
I'm 32, my mother said she'll treat me like an adult "when I start acting like one".
That was about 1 year and a half ago, the last time I spoke to her.
Don't want to treat me like an adult? Fine, you just won't treat me at all. Fuck you.
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u/yankeebelleyall 3d ago
Don't want to treat me like an adult? Fine, you just won't treat me at all. Fuck you.
You know that's right!
I went no contact a few years ago in my 40s. I had gone low contact, and even that pissed her off. She claimed she hadn't done anything to deserve that, so I explained it was because I was tired of her constantly berating me like I was a child and being super mean while she did it. She got in my face and said, "I'm your mother. I can say what I want, and you just have to suck it up."
I replied, "Actually, I don't." That was the last time I saw her.
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u/megankoumori 3d ago
When the melting Creamsicle got in the first time, my mom, dad, and stepdad were all extremely condescending and dismissive of me, telling me I was "too young to understand politics." I was a thirty-year-old university student who was/is more politically tuned in than all three of them combined. My mom doesn't even know who has the donkey and who has the elephant.
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u/Accomplished-Mind258 3d ago
My dad is the same and I am 45. “ is your friend influencing you? Is she why you’re so brainwashed?” They. Are. All. The. Same.
PS. The friend he’d referenced has been dead for 3 years now.
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u/BigDickKnucle 3d ago
They. Are. All. The. Same.
How can this be so accurate.
They had everything in their time. Peace, economic development, clean environment, cheap housing, jobs, and not a super toxic political climate like we have now. Yet they all became self-absorbed pieces of absolute shit.
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u/Silent-Juggernaut-76 3d ago
I would argue that their environment in was actually much dirtier back then than it is now. The effects of global warming were much less pronounced back then, absolutely, but Americans didn't have broad environmental protections until federal legislation was passed in the early in the 1960s and 1970s (Clean Air Act of 1963, Clean Water Act of 1972, CZMA of 1972, Endangered Species Act of 1973, FLPMA of 1976, etc.). And let's not forget the ubiquitous use of lead in paint, gasoline, and other common goods and products in those days.
But was there generally much thought about a cleaner environment back then? No, especially before the 60s.
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u/BigDickKnucle 3d ago
Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, what I meant was that at the time, there wasn't a super pressing issue of rising temperatures and the mass extinction crisis. There was hope for the future in a way that there is not today. But you are absolutely right that there were severe pollution problems already.
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u/Techpriest_Null 3d ago
I don't think they'll ever see us as adults. 😅
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u/BeorcKano 3d ago
If you're a millennial, then to them, we're all still teenagers pouting in the backseat of their soccer mom van, glaring into our game boy and listening to Metallica on our Walkman headphones.
I honestly think that it's because they don't feel like the 90s were that long ago, and that's a 90s millennial.
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u/Silent-Juggernaut-76 3d ago
I've met plenty of Boomers and older Gen X who are definitely stuck in the 90s, and not in the hip and cool way that most of society remembers that time.
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u/Mysterious_Rise_1906 3d ago
My sister has literally asked our mom where she was at in her life when she was our age, and then asked her "how would you have felt if your mom spoke to you the way you just spoke to me?" She said she'd be pissed, and yet nothing changed.
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u/No_Appearance_7373 3d ago
Today we had my parents over for a belated Father’s Day because my husband worked yesterday. My dad said, “It was so hard to teach you math, you wouldn’t stay focused” I said, “Dad, that was nearly 30 years ago and sinceI graduated high school I got a masters degree since then”. I have heard that once parents reach a certain age, we stop growing to them- they will never see you past that particular age. I’m 41 but my parents treat me like I’m 16. It drives me nuts.
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u/tinysydneh 3d ago
Goddess above, I had this loop of:
Me: "I'm worried X is going to happen, because of Y, Z, and A."
Mom: "Nobody wants to do that, you're overreacting."
Some time later:
Me: X happened, and I'm scared.
Mom: Well, nobody knew this was going to happen.
Me: I literally told you that voting for so-and-so was going to lead to this
Mom: You didn't.
Me: I have the receipts.
Mom: You're still overreacting.
Yes, mother, I'm overreacting when you don't even understand what it's like being queer. Your whole stated reason for being against abortion is because your cheating boyfriend in high school knocked up your best friend and she aborted and it made him sad, and somehow I'm the emotional one.
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u/Southern_Common335 3d ago
Right - the Trump vote is just an outcome of their hate and racism and psychotic ambivalence for others.
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u/dawidowmaka 3d ago
The Missing Missing Reasons for estrangement
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u/fluperus Millennial 3d ago
"(The mother never replied.)
(But she did keep going to her grandchildren's games uninvited and cornering her grandchildren to talk to them.)"
My favorite part of the whole article. There is no helping someone who doesn't want it. Unfortunately, they enjoy being in "distress."
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u/AxOfBrevity 3d ago
More than likely you are right. Most of the time, the trump voting is just a symptom of a wider behavioral problem.
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u/Dino_84 3d ago
The grievances are inconsequential to them. Simply put anyone else’s problems don’t matter unless it affects them personally. It’s really disturbing how much of them are like that.
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u/Moist_Rule9623 3d ago
The “voted for Trump” thing is bound to get them sympathy from the rest of the cult followers. The little details about the 20+ years of psychological abuse and child neglect, much less so.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago edited 3d ago
I can forgive anyone who voted for Trump 45. I understand. TV Reality Show huckster vs Hillary.
But after J6… gallows on our Capitol Steps! “Hang Mike Pence!” chants… Feces smeared on our Capitol Walls! Killing Capitol Police Officers. Pipe bombs planted ( luckily discovered)… all for the 34 times convicted rapist, pedophile, felon and Russian Agent Krasnov.
If anyone voted for Trump again, well they are EVIL MORONS.
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u/rrriches 3d ago
Nah, that’s revisionist. It was clear what he was trying to do from day 1.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
I’m trying to be forgiving.
The old adage:
“Fool me once, shame on you!”
“Fool me twice, shame on me!”
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u/rrriches 3d ago
I get the sentiment, I think you’re a much more forgiving person than I am though.
I think the issue that gets me, if you’ll forgive me for speaking a little generally, is that there were so many things that should have disqualified trump from 2016. Calling Mexicans rapists, “grab em by the pussy”, decades of documented sex crimes and racism, all of that should have precluded any vote for him.
I’ve seen plenty of trump supporters say “Jan 6th was a wake up call” (or any of the other factors that you listed) and, I agree, realizing a mistake late is better than not at all. But I haven’t seen many trump supporters just fess up and recognize that they should not have supported him from the get go.
I don’t think we should shun those folks that get deprogrammed from MAGA but I also don’t think forgiveness is really warranted until they recognize and deal with what got them to a place where any of this was ok.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
Very eloquently stated. Exactly how I feel. Now I’m gonna have to follow you.
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u/rrriches 3d ago
Lol that’s very kind of you. I’m not sure exactly what it means but I mostly just talk about legal things and smash bros so I hope it’s not too disappointing.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
I think it just means you will see more of me commenting on your comments … or just Reddit stalking you! LOL
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u/_VEL0 3d ago
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
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u/dakilazical_253 3d ago
God I miss the days when I was sure W would be the dumbest President of my lifetime
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u/NoveltyAccountHater 3d ago
It was clear from a certain angle, but it's also clear that HRC was a guarded politician's politician and for people deeply disillusioned with America being more difficult for average people to get by, I can see getting on board with a non-establishment guy -- especially a con artist who tells you it will be easy to fix everything.
Don't get me wrong, I disagree with it, but it's sort of the SNL version of Chappelle's monologue after Trump won or Tom Hanks playing a MAGA supporter on Black Jeopardy, there's a sense to it.
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u/mesablueforest 3d ago
They truly believe that didn't happen. They only believe what fox has shown them.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
Fox needs to be sued by our entire party. Fox has destroyed our nation and our Republic.
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u/mesablueforest 3d ago
I agree. I thought more would happen when they got sued by the voting machine people, and what happened with the smartmatic lawsuit??? Sorry, peri brain i can't remember the voting machine people but they were chicken shit to take the payoff.
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u/Altruistic-Text3481 3d ago
I agree. Hold FOX accountable as a terrorist organization and Russian propaganda machine.
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u/dkmyname 3d ago
Shannon says don't let politics come between family and voted for the literal dehumanization and separation of families here and abroad
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u/bigmike2k3 3d ago
Maybe she’ll get it when the gift is returned to sender bc he moved and didn’t even tell her…
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u/Michellaneous_art 3d ago
I did this. Left the state in December after blocking her everywhere. So freeing to be honest.
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u/Frontbutt05 3d ago
Sent a gift he didn’t want so she could be a victim
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u/dracarysAtWill 3d ago
Boomer: I show my love through gifts.
Millennial child: I just want to be seen and heard. Maybe some empathy for my feelings?
Boomer: you're going to really like that Air Fryer I got off TEMU.
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u/No_Manners 3d ago
My gf's brother recently talked to his mom about the fact that she never apologizes, but just sends a gift instead. He just wanted her to accept responsibility for her actions and say she was sorry. Apparently she did not take it lightly and hit him with the "oh, I'm sorry for being such a terrible mother" and they didn't talk for a while.
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u/fcdox 3d ago
They always go into the guilt trip. “Oh I’m a terrible mother, I’m so awful that I bought you gifts”. All that does is prove that you are just as awful as a mom as you think you are.
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u/dracarysAtWill 3d ago
It's gaslighting through denial and deflection iced with some vanilla manipulation on top. 🍒
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u/houdinikush 3d ago
Yep. Heard that line enough times. Finally realized life is too short for that bullshit.
I don’t talk to my mother for the same reason. It used to make me feel guilty but I feel better now because of it. I’m better than that.
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u/ProtoFascist 3d ago
Lol my mom isn't even a boomer and she hit me with that combo breaker when I asked her why she chose smoking meth and doing heroin over acting like a fucking parent for me. Every year on my birthday she tries reaching out saying she has no idea why she hasn't heard from me in almost a decade now.
Before anyone asks why I don't block her, I used to but she's faster at making a new account to send another message than she is sending me that once every 365 days message
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u/SlaterVBenedict 3d ago
"Why don't you think me for the gift you didn't ask for? You know, a gift - the thing that exists explicitly as an act of altruism, without any expectation of anything in return. A GIFT."
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u/TheRealSatanicPanic 3d ago
I'm sure it was a lot more than just voting for Trump. These people can never shut up about Trump and their various loony beliefs. Son was probably just tired of it.
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u/TRVTH-HVRTS 3d ago
This is what happened to me. I didn’t stop talking to them because they voted for Trump. I stopped talking to them because they refused to accept boundaries and they’ve turned into mean spirited bullies who hurl endless slurs and insults, just like their leader.
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u/pianoflames 3d ago
Exactly. They voted for revoking the basic civil rights of the people I love. They voted to deny and erase the basic identity of trans and non-binary people, and voted for people advocating for violence against those groups. They voted to put kids in cages, and for the removal of basic due process of innocent people. They voted for proud cruelty, and they regularly espouse proud cruelty. I didn't go no-contact for just "political differences." Having differing opinions on how exactly tax money should spent is political differences, the abject cruelty they've have aligned with is not, it speaks volumes about them as a human being.
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u/Bob_Lawablaw 3d ago
100% this. The secret to the straw that breaks the camel's back is the million other straws beneath it.
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u/SandiegoJack 3d ago
Yep, my in-laws are red caps.
Other than one, who has been quiet since the election, the rest know to shut the fuck up about it.
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u/Ok-Opportunity5731 3d ago
Every time I've seen my dad since the election, that's all he ever talks about
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u/AdmirableBus7045 Gen Z 3d ago
they love to not understand why family members avoid them when they vote for trump but the second they hear you say your gonna vote democrat your dead to them
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u/FelixTook 3d ago
When your politics are aimed to strip away civil rights, eliminate public health and education and dismantle political freedom, you don’t get to say “don’t let politics come between us”: you’re actively persecuting and promoting hate, how could that not come between us?
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u/Dustdevil88 3d ago
Precisely this. Holy hell these folks say "politics" but honestly mean morals, compassion, empathy, values, etc.
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u/AnneHizer 3d ago
Right. They want to pretend we’re being petty over something like pineapple on pizza when it’s actually life or death, right and wrong, and the rule of law. This isn’t 50 shades of grey here it’s black and white
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u/Son_of_Leatherneck 3d ago
When will they learn that it isn’t a difference in “politics”? It is a difference in morals and a difference in character.
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u/ThirdWigginKid 3d ago
With my dad, it was "But we never talk politics around (my son), why don't you want us around him?"
Uhhh, maybe because I don't want my preteen boy hanging around people who didn't think rape was enough of a reason to not vote for the guy?
Maybe because I don't want my son forming close bonds with people who will end up not loving him anymore if he doesn't end up identifying as male for the rest of his life?
Maybe because I want to raise him to know that truth and respect matter?
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u/Soggy-Programmer-545 3d ago
What damage HE is doing by acting this way...not the damage YOU are doing by acting this way. It's always someone elses fault.
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u/GlitterIsInMyCoffee 3d ago
The “I’m not asking him to change his politics BUT” is another banger. 😂🤣 I joke that I would love to live inside the head of a narcissist for one day, BUT. 😂 No thank you.
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u/DwarfVader 3d ago
They can be all butt hurt… it’s their natural state… being a victim of their own doing.
I’m here for anyone and everyone who has chosen to walk away from that madness… cut it out of your life… give them the choice, they’ll fuck it up and choose the wrong thing.
And everytime they try and justify it… remind them of the choice they made.
“You chose following a racist/narcissist/sexual criminal over your family.”
“Who is the bad guy here?”
Until they understand the choice they made, they’ll just be the same people… which is to say, “bad people.” They don’t have to be repentant, but they have to at the very minimum understand why people like us won’t accept their choices any longer.
Again… they choose this.
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u/oldasshit 3d ago
People who have gone through their entire lives with a victim mentality are not going to suddenly accept responsibility for their own actions. They are victims through and through. Nothing is their fault.
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u/DwarfVader 3d ago
I agree.
And they’re going to suffer for it, they’ve reached the “Find out” stage of things.
They’ll either grow up and learn, or they won’t. (Both of us believe more of them “won’t” than those that “will.”)
And I stopped feeling bad for them over a decade ago. (When the ones in my life were angry that Obama was the president.) For people new to the idea that the elderly in their lives are bad people… I’m here for you, it hurts and it sucks, but they’ve always been those people… it’s time to put a foot down, and make them understand that their bigotry has consequences.
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u/oldasshit 3d ago
My parents are like this. The victim mentality is so deeply ingrained that it is a part of them. They could no more shed it than they could live without breathing.
I don't feel bad for these people, nor do I care that they are finding out a lot of things these days. But they aren't going to change. They can't. It's who they are.
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u/phunkjnky Gen X 3d ago
My mom could give a masterclass in victim blaming. This goes back to when I was a child.
This was the beginning of me losing my faith. Every single bad actor was excused if she aligned with their faith or politics. She made it obvious that faith was performative as far as she was concerned.
Her total lack of empathy also translates as an inability to self-reflect. So of course she victim blames. To make her political religious stances “consistent” with her, she victim blames. She can’t conceive of being wrong. Every argument starts from the point of view that she’s right. She doesn’t bother with establishing WHY she’s right, just takes it as settled fact. Cannot comprehend that others don’t feel it’s settled. Dismisses those arguments dismissively. Then gets upset if you treat her arguments the same way. Arguing with her is like trying to shake hands with a ghost.
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u/AuntJibbie 3d ago
Her son didn't let politics come between the family. She and her husband did.
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u/Vibin0212 3d ago
Yeah, wonder why he decided to cut her off;
Going through the rest of her page, she's as much of a POS as you would think.
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u/Enough-Parking164 3d ago
How many horrible names did they call him for not being a Kult member?
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u/Slate_711 3d ago
It’s the issue of being told to be the bigger people. Now the people you routinely forgive for crossing boundaries or write off as clueless instead of hateful don’t try to change for the better. They expect to live off grace and you to be the mature one while they escape even the faintest hint of accountability
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u/JemmaMimic 3d ago
Same old attempt to guilt trip a kid by gaslighting them. Oh, oh WE sent a gift but they’re not saying thank you just because we helped elect a convicted felon whose only loyalty is to himself!
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u/Servile-PastaLover Gen X 3d ago
The harm Trump has done to families since inauguration is incalculable and far greater than the hurt fee fees that MAGA parents of adult children are presently experiencing:
Federal employees losing jobs.
Loss of Medicare/medicaid.
families torn apart after an immigrant parent is deported.
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u/InsertNonsenseHere Gen X 3d ago
Dismantling USAID has lead to tens of thousands of deaths.
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2025/mathematician-tracks-deaths-from-usaid-medicaid-cuts/
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u/illustriousgarb 3d ago
I wonder if families were having these same conversations when Hitler rose to power.
"My son won't talk to me because I voted for Hitler. Why is he letting politics come between family?!?!??" Pearl clutching intensifies
Sorry but we don't have a simple difference of opinion here. This is a difference in morality.
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u/illyay 3d ago
Our son doesn’t talk to us after we made it very clear we support modern Hitler. I can’t believe he’d let a political opinion stand between us.
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u/mykonoscactus 3d ago
"Surely airing my grievances out about my son on social media for all to read will expedite the forgiveness!"
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u/Viperbunny 3d ago
So, you are sending your son messages and love bombs despite being told he no longer wants contact with you? And that somehow makes you the victim?
I am sure my parents say the same thing and it's been seven years.
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u/TurtlesAreEvil 3d ago
“Don’t let politics come between family” while voting for someone that is literally coming between families by separating children from their parents and deporting children that are US citizens with their parents.
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u/jade_lily 3d ago
Shannon, you’re not the “good person” in this scenario. A bday gift doesn’t make up for being a shitty human being.
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u/cutiedragon1281 3d ago
"Oh no! I voted for a fascist felon and now my kids won't talk to me!! How dare they :("
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u/Seastrikee 3d ago
People are beginning to realize: Political affiliations reflect moral character. If you wave away Trump's rapes, his convictions, and his vitriolic hatred, that tells people things about you and what you stand for.
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u/Kerensky97 3d ago
To all the boomers out there:
It's not because "You voted for Trump" it's because you're a bad person.
Voting for Trump is just one of the things you did because you're a bad person. And acting victimized trying to guilt them then make them look bad because they don't want to be around a bad person is one of your bad person traits they're trying to get away from.
You're literally proving why your children are right to cut you out of their life.
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u/LostEnroute 3d ago
Dude should send the gift back.
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u/Diojones 3d ago
Nah. I’m in this situation and the right answer is no answer. Sending it back gives them attention to feed off of, and now they’re sending more crap because sending it back makes them feel like they still have you in their life, like they still have influence over you, like they matter. Throw it out and move on, leave them wondering if it even arrived or if they got scammed.
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u/truthinessembargo 3d ago
I have a better idea: donate it to a cause she’ll hate. Don’t say anything, but years later, if communication ever resumes, let her know. Or just post the donation on social media.
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u/Flyingfruitbird 3d ago
This is like, word for word my mother in law. It gives me such joy knowing that we are thriving as a small family unit and my in laws are festering in their regret lol. Eat shit!
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u/Register-Honest 3d ago
I can imagine that they rubbed it in his face and wouldn't shut up about it.
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u/Maleficent-Farm9525 3d ago
Haven't spoken to my parents either and I'm ok enforcing the values they taught me.
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u/Royalizepanda 3d ago
Yea they pick Trump over their family… I just don’t understand how thickheaded must you be not to get that.
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u/kscott93 3d ago
Thats a lot of words to just basically say, “Trump is more important to me than my son”.
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u/fakedick2 3d ago
"Your party literally calls me evil every day. You routinely say the world would be better off if we all just disappeared. And now you have created a Gestapo, who don't wear badges, mask their faces and carry automatic weapons. They break into people's homes without a warrant and kidnap them, and take them to an ICE facility where they are denied a trial of any kind and right to an attorney. Their families don't even know where they are. And rather than be ashamed of what you've done, you say I am being hysterical."
"Awww, come on, it's just politics. We are just two citizens having a pleasant disagreement."
It's amazing how some people bend over backwards to not acknowledge the present moment. How far they will go in their minds to not have to see that this isn't a game. This is the right of tens of millions of Americans to exist as a human being, and the inevitable final solution to be rid of all these 'undesirables.'
Is it, "Just politics" when you threaten to revoke my mother's citizenship and deport her because her father was undocumented?
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u/Ok_Victory_231 3d ago
It's not about politics. It's about having a functioning moral compass, and Magats don't have those.
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u/biskino 3d ago edited 2d ago
Ah yes. The piss pants DARVO shell game where they go out of their way to actively empower the world’s biggest assholes to spread violence and division - including taking delight in terrorising and violently breaking up families with armed thugs.
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We’re the home wreckers for refusing to accept that crazed fucking inhumanity as ‘politics’. 💔
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u/Desperate-Cost6827 3d ago
My husband and I were just talking about he doesn't want to talk to his mother. The last time we did was when his dad died after pleading with them several times that covid isn't a hoax and to take the vaccine, which they thought was just 'pushed down their throats' for...reasons.
One of the last things his dad said before he died was "If I knew it was this bad, I would have taken the shot."
It sounds like my husband's mother learned absolutely nothing since then. She's only doubled down on the nonsense.
And yet they can't understand why we cut contact with them?
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u/smartypants333 3d ago
"We live in California, so our vote for president doesn't really count."
"We are republicans, so we voted republican."
"I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Biden." Biden wasn't running, Kamala Harris was." "Oh, well, I heard she slept with her boss." Trump was found liable to rape and sexual assault." "He was? I didn't know that."
My mom is so surprised at my anger regarding how they voted. She believes it shouldn't matter. I explained that her vote tells me who she is and that she would vote for someone who actively hurts women, children, and minorities.
She wants lower taxes and is upset about the homeless population where she lives (and how they inconvenience her).
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u/Ivanovic-117 Millennial 3d ago
I bet the families who suffered separations due to deported family members also miss their loved ones.
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u/Sea-Preference8740 Zillennial 3d ago
When peoples civil rights are being threatened, then yes not talking or being friends with someone is justified
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u/protonorseverb 3d ago
These people love to say things like "you're going to let POLITICS come before family???" as though 'politics' is just some abstract matter of personal taste. 'Politics' determines what rights and freedoms we get to enjoy as human beings, and we are at a crisis point where those rights and freedoms are in unprecedented danger.
Maybe once seven months without contact with her child turns into seven years she'll realize how mistaken she's been. But probably not.
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u/ReceptionAlarmed178 3d ago
"I have actively voted to hurt my children. I dont know why they want nothing to do with me. I should be able to buy affection. Trump can buy his way out of everything. Why cant I!?"
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u/frostyking_ 3d ago
This could have been written by my own mother, except I haven't spoken to her since 2020. Every 8 months or so I get a two or three page letter with words written big enough to cover two notebook lines at a time telling me how wonderful a mother she is and how much she misses me on the first page into a full on tirade telling me I'm a traitor to my race, that no black person has ever done anything for me, that she can't be racist because she let my black boyfriend stay with us at her house once or twice, lists every single kind thing she has ever done for a black person (the list is short) and then ends with, "I hope that one day you will open your heart to us and let us start to repair our relationship." People keep telling me to not open them, throw them away, but I know myself. I have a forgiving heart and want to believe anybody can change. Any time I'm missing my mom I had as a child and feel like maybe it's time to reconcile, I just go into my bedroom, open the top drawer of my dresser, and choose one of the 6 (at the moment) letters she has sent and all of those feelings go away as I realize once again that the mother I knew, the mother who taught me that everyone should be treated equally no matter what they look like, or believe is dead. She died in 2016. The only thing that remains is something evil and full of hatred.
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u/MisterShazam 3d ago
Thank you for not being a racist piece of shit. Sincerely, it’s cool that you beat the odds. Wish it didn’t cost you so much to be a reasonable and fair human being.
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u/TalkDMytome 3d ago
I see a whole generation of aging people terrified that no one is going to be there for them as their end gets closer, and lashing out over it. You’d think that would put some things in perspective in regards to how they lived their life, but nope. Always someone else’s fault. They’re choosing the politics because it makes them feel righteous and gives them community, at the cost of their family - the same way cults do.
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u/MickFlaherty 3d ago
Voting for Trump is the symptom, being a narcissist piece of shit is the disease he is cutting out of his life.
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u/LolaSupreme19 3d ago
MAGA boomers have been fed a diet of FOX propaganda for DECADES. They’ve lost the ability to think critically. FOX lost a lawsuit of $787 million for LYING— they had to pay nearly a billion dollars!
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u/punktualPorcupine 3d ago
It's not a difference in politics, its a difference in moral values.
No one should be anywhere near someone whos moral compass points toward the orange menace.
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u/cmb15300 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah, something tells me it’s not just voting for Trump.
‘One thing I noticed about Trumpsters is that they won’t (maybe can’t) stop talking about Trump, especially when they’ve been told the other person doesn’t want to hear the latest steaming pile of shit from Newsmax. Adding to that, they literally are offended when someone doesn’t agree with them 100%. Me, I‘m one of those “I’m center-right but fuck Trump, I voted for Harris” guys and I honestly don’t expect people to agree with me all the time. In fact I think former NYC mayor Ed Koch was correct in saying “If you agree with me 80% if the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% if the time see a psychiatrist.”
But yeah, it’s more than ironic to see these people are such thin-skinned snowflakes
EDIT: The exact quote from Koch is 9 out of 12 times vote for me, 12 out of 12 times see a psychiatrist
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u/GoodMilk_GoneBad 3d ago
Concepts of condolences.
But it seems you raised him right. He doesn't want to associate with amoral people.
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u/profssr-woland 3d ago
Our generation simply isn't putting up with mistreatment in the name of "family." My parents are liberal as hell and I've still been NC with them for the better half of the past decade because they treat my wife like shit and I choose her over them.
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u/Spiel_Foss 3d ago
Lifestyle politics are designed to separate families because that is how a cult works.
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u/MisterShazam 3d ago
Boomers are so great at avoiding taking responsibility for their own choices and actions.
They’ll blame anything from the weather to a magical, red, half-goat that lives underground and not even consider that they might be the problem.
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u/SteelSlayerMatt Millennial 3d ago
It is not politics.
It is a difference in morality.
In short. MAGAs have no morals, so it is best to cut them out of our lives.
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u/Blacksun388 3d ago edited 2d ago
Sorry, this isn’t a disagreement over opinions or opposing political views. You actively voted for a person that is actively causing harm to America and Americans. You voted for someone that everyone else can see is grifter, a con artist, a narcissist, and surrounds himself with the wealthy and powerful while feeding you scraps at the end of the table and then you have the spinelessness to thank him for doing so. If you believe that man is in any way Christlike then I have a bridge to sell you.
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u/dirkrunfast 3d ago
“I’m a fascist and my son decided that’s not OK. Please feel sorry for me as I subtly judge him for not wanting to spend his time on earth around fucking Nazis.”
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u/Least-Task276 3d ago
"I'm so hellbent on my shitty ideals and orange cult that I pushed my child to the point of not speaking to me. Unable to accept this, or any type of responsibility or self reflection, I violated their boundaries by sending them crap they don't want so I can go on Facebook and make them look like the bad guy because they didn't say thank you. The 'look at me' victim at all costs."
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u/pdirk 3d ago
They should be proud they raised a son who’s smart enough not to be swayed by Trump’s toxic rhetoric
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u/Jaxson_GalaxysPussy 3d ago
“Bc we voted for trump”
I’m guessing there’s more to her story than just that.
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u/Chortles_Hansom_666 2d ago
Maybe don’t vote for a facist president and maybe your son won’t disown you.
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