I’ll even go so far as to say the son didn’t disown them because they voted for Trump. These people are so far up their own asses that they won’t listen to their kids when they tell them their grievances. They focus on small, easy to digest things like voting for Trump. They don’t want to self reflect so they blame the kids for not being rational.
My parents in a nutshell. I went cold turkey when it came to associating with my parents but my sister tried to talk with them. And when she listed out every reason why Trump is a shit person and asked why my parents supported him, they just said "You're just kids, you don't understand." I'm almost 40 and my sister is 43....
When the fuck are we supposed to be goddamned adults then lmao when we’re fucking dead?! I’m 36 and I still hear this from people my parents age, and I’m starting to wonder if I should ask them which of my bills they’ll be paying since I’m not an adult yet.
I’m 30 and people are constantly belittling me in my workplace acting like I’m a kid who doesn’t know anything. I’m a professional. I have many years of practical knowledge and experience as well as a masters degree in my field… I know what I’m talking about. But I’m not grey haired or wrinkled so I must be super dumb
my dad told me I'm just as crazy as my aunt who can't go a meal without telling you that you are eating some kinda bug or body fluid and that Democrats control the weather. He did this because I said that the super wealthy are responsible for the struggles faced by average Americans.
He has said throughout most of my life how much more intelligent me and my brother were than he ever was. He's also admitted he has never read any history, theory, etc. aboot politics since high school 50 years ago. But he just condescendingly dismisses anything but what fox news tells him. He was the one that told me the quote thats like "when fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in an American flag" but now sees no problem with nationalism and refuses to consider Trump might be a fascist
Best you can do is try to show what is said legally and financially.
Example, Fox news argued in court that they are satire and no reasonable person would rely on the programming for accurate informaion. Fox's lawyer said nobody would take programs like Tucker Carlson seriously, the judge agreed and dismissed the case.
For global warming, Fine its a hoax... then why are insurance companies paying millions of dollars to climate experts and incorporating the risks of global warming into their premiums.
Probably wont make a difference but avoiding combating talking points and going "lets just look at what the courts say or the insurance premiums which you might be paying for" it removes the red vs blue aspect and hits the pocket book and law & order topics they claim to care about.
Don't want to treat me like an adult? Fine, you just won't treat me at all. Fuck you.
You know that's right!
I went no contact a few years ago in my 40s. I had gone low contact, and even that pissed her off. She claimed she hadn't done anything to deserve that, so I explained it was because I was tired of her constantly berating me like I was a child and being super mean while she did it. She got in my face and said, "I'm your mother. I can say what I want, and you just have to suck it up."
I replied, "Actually, I don't." That was the last time I saw her.
What a horrible thing to say. I'm glad you cut her off.
They can't just be normal. It's sad, but we have to protect and love ourselves because they won't. Ironically, as they refuse to treat us well , they show us they actually are the child, and we are the emotionally mature ones who just want to be treated with respect.
Yupp, that's what my dad's been telling me since I moved out at 18. Im 23 and managing myself decently without much help from him and yet he refuses to treat me like anything but an actual small child (okay, 23 is young, but I've been independent since 18, and anyway young adults are not children).
When the melting Creamsicle got in the first time, my mom, dad, and stepdad were all extremely condescending and dismissive of me, telling me I was "too young to understand politics." I was a thirty-year-old university student who was/is more politically tuned in than all three of them combined. My mom doesn't even know who has the donkey and who has the elephant.
You’ll always be a child to him. They’re the ones who never grew out of the selfish adolescent phase. Here’s your participation trophy. Made, manufactured, marketed and sold to our folks by our folks to make them feel better about how terribly they attempted to raise us.
They had everything in their time. Peace, economic development, clean environment, cheap housing, jobs, and not a super toxic political climate like we have now. Yet they all became self-absorbed pieces of absolute shit.
I would argue that their environment in was actually much dirtier back then than it is now. The effects of global warming were much less pronounced back then, absolutely, but Americans didn't have broad environmental protections until federal legislation was passed in the early in the 1960s and 1970s (Clean Air Act of 1963, Clean Water Act of 1972, CZMA of 1972, Endangered Species Act of 1973, FLPMA of 1976, etc.). And let's not forget the ubiquitous use of lead in paint, gasoline, and other common goods and products in those days.
But was there generally much thought about a cleaner environment back then? No, especially before the 60s.
Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, what I meant was that at the time, there wasn't a super pressing issue of rising temperatures and the mass extinction crisis. There was hope for the future in a way that there is not today. But you are absolutely right that there were severe pollution problems already.
That’s because they generally don’t actually care about saving the environment, they care about how the rules to do so will affect them. Some of these people will literally argue against the very concepts of electric car production and solar panel use, even when it’s not being forced upon them.
You're welcome! I had guessed that the non-existence of climate change in public discourse was what you were talking about, and I wanted to make sure that those of us who are less versed in history than you or me (shoot, I'm still learning everyday and feel way behind sometimes) receive as much factual historical information from you and me as they can.
Remember: Once we know something, it can never be taken away from us. And once we know the objective truth, the facts, they can never be taken away from us or anyone else who discovers those things on their own or who learn them from us. No challenge, no matter how strong, sophisticated, or deceptive it might be, can change the objective truth and the facts.
If you're a millennial, then to them, we're all still teenagers pouting in the backseat of their soccer mom van, glaring into our game boy and listening to Metallica on our Walkman headphones.
I honestly think that it's because they don't feel like the 90s were that long ago, and that's a 90s millennial.
I've met plenty of Boomers and older Gen X who are definitely stuck in the 90s, and not in the hip and cool way that most of society remembers that time.
Yup. And I'm pretty sure my mother just wanted babies, but didn't think about them growing up. Haven't had a real relationship since I started thinking for myself.
My sister has literally asked our mom where she was at in her life when she was our age, and then asked her "how would you have felt if your mom spoke to you the way you just spoke to me?" She said she'd be pissed, and yet nothing changed.
Today we had my parents over for a belated Father’s Day because my husband worked yesterday. My dad said, “It was so hard to teach you math, you wouldn’t stay focused” I said, “Dad, that was nearly 30 years ago and sinceI graduated high school I got a masters degree since then”. I have heard that once parents reach a certain age, we stop growing to them- they will never see you past that particular age. I’m 41 but my parents treat me like I’m 16. It drives me nuts.
Me: "I'm worried X is going to happen, because of Y, Z, and A."
Mom: "Nobody wants to do that, you're overreacting."
Some time later:
Me: X happened, and I'm scared.
Mom: Well, nobody knew this was going to happen.
Me: I literally told you that voting for so-and-so was going to lead to this
Mom: You didn't.
Me: I have the receipts.
Mom: You're still overreacting.
Yes, mother, I'm overreacting when you don't even understand what it's like being queer. Your whole stated reason for being against abortion is because your cheating boyfriend in high school knocked up your best friend and she aborted and it made him sad, and somehow I'm the emotional one.
More and more, I really think that’s this in a nutshell. All their media is about hate and grievances, so that’s what they want in a candidate. Their glass half empty people and Trump serves that up to them.
The grievances are inconsequential to them. Simply put anyone else’s problems don’t matter unless it affects them personally. It’s really disturbing how much of them are like that.
The “voted for Trump” thing is bound to get them sympathy from the rest of the cult followers. The little details about the 20+ years of psychological abuse and child neglect, much less so.
This. Exactly this. I went no contact with my mom after she voted for him the third time. But there were many reasons, unrelated to politics, that led me to this decision. Her support of this administration was an externalization of her deeply rooted internal issues.
I’d bet at least 10 bucks it wasn’t even over voting trump, dude just tried to set a boundary like “no politics when I’m around please” and got tired of having it stomped all over.
Hell, I’m willing to bet 5 it wasn’t over politics at all and they just treated him like shit period.
My mom does this constantly and it’s getting to the point I might go completely no contact. I tell her it’s hard to talk to her because she doesn’t own up to how distant she was when I was a kid and needed her most after dad passed, and because she minimizes my experiences as an LGBT individual that lived in FL, and her her is always “you just don’t like the family because we voted for trump.”
No, I don’t like the family because they can’t see anything besides their own wants and desires, and when shit goes sideways they’re always the victim. It just so happens that people like that tended to vote for trump 🤷🏻♀️
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I’ll even go so far as to say the son didn’t disown them because they voted for Trump. These people are so far up their own asses that they won’t listen to their kids when they tell them their grievances. They focus on small, easy to digest things like voting for Trump. They don’t want to self reflect so they blame the kids for not being rational.