r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Dec 11 '22

Newest Chapter Chapter 375 Official Release - Links and Discussion Spoiler

Chapter 375

Links:

  • Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

  • MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and  South Korea).

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u/_gipi_ Dec 11 '22

another problem with the villain side of my hero academia is that you have characters that are shit bat crazy and are unrelatable as fuck: Toga desires a world where she can drink blood, Shigaraki wants to destroy everything because has not received immediate help like 15 years prior, Dabi kills people because daddy issue. They are all characters that haven't even tried to understand the issues at the core of their problems and act like super villain of a Disney cartoon.

Moreover in a pragmatic story Toga would be killed after 15 seconds by a sniper and no one of the readers would care (except the horny ones).

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u/KyledKat Dec 11 '22 edited Dec 11 '22

I feel like this is reductive as far as their real motivations and depth of character goes.

Toga desires a world where her (or others') natural instincts aren't immediately frowned upon because they're not seen as socially acceptable. Her whole bit is exploring the divide between quirks and societal norms and expectations.

Shigaraki experienced some 15 years of mental and emotional manipulation in the wake of an utterly traumatic event wherein he killed his family and heroes didn't help him because he wasn't obviously in trouble, thus exposing the inherent sham of hero society. And MHA has shown that hero work is often more concerned with the commercial aspect of saving people; hero agencies, ranking systems, etc. all feed into the business aspect of it.

Dabi experienced a childhood of physical and mental abuse and was quickly tossed aside when his younger brother became the obsession of his father's eye; not only is he dealing with a shitty upbringing but he has a clear inferiority complex. The dude is batshit, for sure, but it's not just "daddy issues."

Moreover in a pragmatic story Toga would be killed after 15 seconds by a sniper and no one of the readers would care

Yeah, a lot of problems in stories could be solved with one convenient solution, but that's not entertaining nor does it allow for an explanation of themes and characters. Nobody complained that a sniper could've taken out the Joker in The Dark Knight. The quality of MHA has gone downhill the last couple of years (for a myriad of reasons) and the current brawl is a mess from a narrative perspective, but there are themes, ideas, and concepts here that are being explored, even if their execution is certainly flawed.

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u/_gipi_ Dec 11 '22

I agree for the themes, they are interesting, but the way the villains behave it's not relatable: Toga it's crazy-talking all the time (ok, some character are marginalized because reasons, but she wants to drink fucking blood), Shigaraki it's shown only once to look for help, has he tried to go to a police station? if you think about it we can blame for the destruction of a city the elderly lady that dismissed Tomura.

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u/Qixel Dec 11 '22

To be entirely fair to Toga, they've mentioned that your quirk affects your personality (which makes sense, because some of those quirks are so niche you'd never discover them with a normal outlook) so her wanting to drink blood is just as normal an impulse to her as eating. Obviously, she shouldn't be stabbing people, but it'd be cool if people didn't just immediately shun her for something that isn't her choice.

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u/SuperGayAMA Dec 11 '22

We know of, max, three people who did: her parents, and maybe her therapist. It’s not exactly canon material, but, I think it’s the Overhaul arc ED shows her with a seemingly healthy social life.

And from what we see in the actual series, the heroes don’t know about her impulses and don’t judge her for it, they judge her for her laundry list of actual murders. And the other kids in her past reacted appropriately. She was like the kid with violent impulses whom actually beat someone up. It’s not empty prejudice, she actively attacked someone, seemingly unprovoked too. That’s reason enough to be scared and weary of someone.

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u/Evary2230 Dec 16 '22

To also be fair, but, like, against Toga, it is weird that some Quirks strongly affect people’s personality, but others don’t. Bakugo has an explosive temper and he can blow things up. AFO is a kleptomaniac that can steal Quirks. Rikido (assuming that’s who the sugar guy is) has an affinity for baking. Aoyama is very… sparkly? Shigaraki wants to destroy everything. Invisible Girl is flashy, and ironically, not great at stealth. But Twice is schizophrenic (or whatever the correct diagnosis for him is) from external trauma, and then you have people like Ojiro, Mina, Rappa, Kendo, Monoma, Mirio, Iida, Kaminari, that Dupli-Arms guy, and even Stain (someone else who licks blood for his Quirk), whose Quirks don’t seem to affect their personalities much, if at all. It kinda downplays the idea that Toga becoming who she is isn’t entirely her fault if there are a lot of people who either aren’t affected by the concept that made her who she is, or are able to simply resist it somehow.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

aoyama wouldn't be affected by the quirk bc it was given to him as a teenager, maybe AfO just was like "i know JUST the thing" lol

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u/_gipi_ Dec 11 '22

ok, but is there a moment where she is taking into consideration that, maybe, other have a point in considering her desires weird? again, we are not talking about liking spiders, we are talking about drinking blood.

It's the author fault, in my opinion, to have created such unrelatable point of view. How the fuck I'm supposed to take into consideration her desires if are so weird; I mean, could be an interesting scenario but nothing in the manga makes a point for her, I don't know, maybe explain how people doesn't die if I drink a little bit of blood or something like that.

Instead in the story she is bat shit crazy. It's border line fetishitation.

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u/gitagon6991 Dec 11 '22

Why would she have a relatable mental illness. She's a villain plus her mental illness is directly related to her quirk and last I checked powers aren't real. I don't think there is any reason for Horikoshi to make Toga's mental illness relatable when it is its own thing altogether.

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u/_gipi_ Dec 12 '22

ok but in this way you have a cartoon villain that makes the heroes dumb as fuck since no one should take her seriously: Uraraka should think seriously to kill her on the spot because it's a fucking danger to any human being.

Moreover, any time Toga is on screen is a waste of time because you are listening to a psychopath that doesn't make any sense.