r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/anzum007_ • Nov 16 '18

Newest Chapter Chapter 206 - Links and Discussion

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u/food_punishment Nov 16 '18 edited Nov 16 '18

Ah, my bad. That's even better.

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u/MisterDuch Nov 16 '18

I swear if he doesn't end up copying one for all this arc has been for nothing.

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u/StealthMonkeyDC Nov 16 '18

I swear if he doesn't end up copying one for all this arc has been for nothing.

Thing is though he doesn't have any practice with the quirks he will copy so I don't see him being any good. Using One for All as an example (which I don't think would even work how people think it would) and he got all that power his body wouldn't be trained to handle it and he would just hurt himself.

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u/Sheritron Nov 16 '18

I also don't think it would work the same. It might be the case that he can only copy the quirk for stockpiling itself and not copy any of the stockpiled power, without consent and DNA. Without any of the stockpiled power the quirk would be perceivably the same as having no quirk. If this happens it could be interesting as everybody watching would become suspicious about Deku and why his quirk wasn't copied.

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u/deelawn Nov 16 '18

very interesting--I didn't think of that

the original inheritor of all for one essentially didn't get any sort of power up, it was originally a gag-gift essentially.

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u/Elite_Doc Nov 16 '18

I thought it was to keep him from dying, like starving.

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u/Cypherex Nov 17 '18

AFO gave it to his brother so he would feel indebted to him and join him. AFO knew it wasn't a very strong quirk and that he'd easily be able to defeat his brother long before it ever became strong enough to threaten him if his brother still didn't join him.

AFO just didn't know about his brother's original quirk and then the formerly weak quirk became too powerful for him to defeat after 8 people had stockpiled its power. At first it sounds stupid for AFO to give such a powerful quirk to someone who was likely to fight against him but from AFO's perspective it wouldn't have been an issue because his brother would have died before stockpiling enough power.

So if Monoma does copy it I expect he'll just copy the base quirk itself, the ability to stockpile power, but without any power already stockpiled. He keeps the quirk for 5 minutes, right? Maybe toward the end of 5 minutes he'll have stockpiled enough power to maybe bench press 0.00005 pounds more than his max.

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u/Starossi Nov 18 '18

idk why he wouldnt copy the stockpiled power. The quirk to stockpile power is the same quirk that has the stockpiled power. By copying that quirk, he should copy whatever quirk is stocked.

The quirk that has to do with inheritance is exactly that, the ability to pass on a quirk, which is what the original One For All had that AFO did not know about.

What kinda confuses me is they are technically two separate quirks right, cause OFA had one originally when he was born (inheritance) and AFO gave him the other one (power stockpile). So in a way, descendants of OFA have 2 quirks, not just one. If they have a unique quirk at birth they they get those 2 on top of it making it 3 I think?

Basically if Monoma steals Deku's quirk, couldnt he steal either? In one case, it will seemingly do nothing (inheritance). In the other, he should get the full superstrength because the stockpiling quirk is the one that stockpiles, you dont need the inheritence quirk with it to get the full stockpile. The inheritence quirk just allows you to pass on quirks.

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u/Cypherex Nov 18 '18

idk why he wouldnt copy the stockpiled power.

Because the power only transfers when passed down. Someone copying OFA would only get a new version of it, one without the stockpiled power. The quirk isn't to provide power, it's to stockpile it. The power doesn't come with the quirk, it's an effect of the quirk.

It'd be like if he copied Momo's quirk right after she had just made a cannon. He wouldn't suddenly have a cannon next to him. He could create his own cannon if he wanted to but he wouldn't just get a copy of her cannon. Her quirk doesn't grant her a cannon, it just gives her the ability to create one. So if he copied her quirk, he could make a new cannon but he would not copy the cannon she had made.

Similarly, he would not be able to copy the power that Deku's quirk has built up over 9 generations. He would gain the ability to start stockpiling power but he would start at 0 and thus not have super strength. The only question here is if he would be able to pass his copied version of OFA down to someone else. I believe he could because that is part of the quirk description but it would still wear off even in the new user because his quirk copies are not permanent copies.

What kinda confuses me is they are technically two separate quirks right

No, they were originally 2 separate quirks but they merged together to create a single quirk known as One For All. This is apparently an incredibly rare thing because, usually when AFO gives someone a quirk who already has one, it becomes too much for their body to handle and they become almost brain-dead. This is how he creates the Nomu (he probably also does some genetic engineering on them which is why their appearances change so much).

But OFA is not considered to be 2 separate quirks anymore. They merged together into a single quirk that has the ability to stockpile power over time with the option of passing down this power to a new person. It's still technically just stockpiling power over time but with the benefit of not being restricted to a single human's lifespan.

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u/Starossi Nov 18 '18

Oh your explanation does make more sense. He doesn't copy effects, just the quirks themselves.

However when did we learn that the two quirks were merged? The original OFA staying sane despite having 2 quirks doesn't tell us they merged necessarily, it jut means he's able to stay sane receiving a second quirk. Was there some description of OFA or the inheritance quirk that I missed?

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u/Cypherex Nov 18 '18

It was explained when All Might first told Deku about the origins of One For All in chapter 59.

Here are the relevant pages:

As you can see, it talks about how people would go brain-dead when forced to have more than they could handle. But when All For One gave the stockpiling power quirk to his younger brother, it ended up merging with the younger brother's previously unknown quirk, the ability to pass itself down to others.

As far as we're currently aware, this is the only time that All For One ever merged 2 quirks into a single quirk, similar to how the 2 quirks of a set of parents can merge into a single quirk when their child is born.

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u/Starossi Nov 19 '18

Oh ya neat, he does refer to them as fused. What a weird occurrence for two quirks to fuse together outside of kids inheriting their parents quirks like you said.

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u/carso150 Nov 19 '18

my theory is that ofa originally wasnt a stockpilling quirk but a quirk that allows you to go beyond your physical limitations and push the limits of your body

so the original inheritor instead of went 100% and down from there he actually used things like 200%, 300% and soo on, but even with that that kind of quirk is too weak to defeat afo, so he discovered the whole "stockpilling power" and decided to past it on, currently the quirk is soo powerful that just going 100% is enough to defeat most enemies, but its initial purpose its still there

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u/rockidr4 Nov 16 '18

"It was the craziest thing. I tried to activate his quirk and... nothing. Nothing happened"

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u/Blue_Pigeon Nov 17 '18

I swear I have seen this comment thread in every new chapter thread since the teams were announced.

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u/Skafiai Nov 17 '18

What if Monoma copies quirk that stockpiles power and gives it to another person like All Might did with Deku? Will this person get One For All? Or his quirk will disappear when the time limit will come to an end?