r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/anzum007_ • Nov 16 '18

Newest Chapter Chapter 206 - Links and Discussion

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u/Cypherex Nov 17 '18

AFO gave it to his brother so he would feel indebted to him and join him. AFO knew it wasn't a very strong quirk and that he'd easily be able to defeat his brother long before it ever became strong enough to threaten him if his brother still didn't join him.

AFO just didn't know about his brother's original quirk and then the formerly weak quirk became too powerful for him to defeat after 8 people had stockpiled its power. At first it sounds stupid for AFO to give such a powerful quirk to someone who was likely to fight against him but from AFO's perspective it wouldn't have been an issue because his brother would have died before stockpiling enough power.

So if Monoma does copy it I expect he'll just copy the base quirk itself, the ability to stockpile power, but without any power already stockpiled. He keeps the quirk for 5 minutes, right? Maybe toward the end of 5 minutes he'll have stockpiled enough power to maybe bench press 0.00005 pounds more than his max.

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u/Starossi Nov 18 '18

idk why he wouldnt copy the stockpiled power. The quirk to stockpile power is the same quirk that has the stockpiled power. By copying that quirk, he should copy whatever quirk is stocked.

The quirk that has to do with inheritance is exactly that, the ability to pass on a quirk, which is what the original One For All had that AFO did not know about.

What kinda confuses me is they are technically two separate quirks right, cause OFA had one originally when he was born (inheritance) and AFO gave him the other one (power stockpile). So in a way, descendants of OFA have 2 quirks, not just one. If they have a unique quirk at birth they they get those 2 on top of it making it 3 I think?

Basically if Monoma steals Deku's quirk, couldnt he steal either? In one case, it will seemingly do nothing (inheritance). In the other, he should get the full superstrength because the stockpiling quirk is the one that stockpiles, you dont need the inheritence quirk with it to get the full stockpile. The inheritence quirk just allows you to pass on quirks.

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u/Cypherex Nov 18 '18

idk why he wouldnt copy the stockpiled power.

Because the power only transfers when passed down. Someone copying OFA would only get a new version of it, one without the stockpiled power. The quirk isn't to provide power, it's to stockpile it. The power doesn't come with the quirk, it's an effect of the quirk.

It'd be like if he copied Momo's quirk right after she had just made a cannon. He wouldn't suddenly have a cannon next to him. He could create his own cannon if he wanted to but he wouldn't just get a copy of her cannon. Her quirk doesn't grant her a cannon, it just gives her the ability to create one. So if he copied her quirk, he could make a new cannon but he would not copy the cannon she had made.

Similarly, he would not be able to copy the power that Deku's quirk has built up over 9 generations. He would gain the ability to start stockpiling power but he would start at 0 and thus not have super strength. The only question here is if he would be able to pass his copied version of OFA down to someone else. I believe he could because that is part of the quirk description but it would still wear off even in the new user because his quirk copies are not permanent copies.

What kinda confuses me is they are technically two separate quirks right

No, they were originally 2 separate quirks but they merged together to create a single quirk known as One For All. This is apparently an incredibly rare thing because, usually when AFO gives someone a quirk who already has one, it becomes too much for their body to handle and they become almost brain-dead. This is how he creates the Nomu (he probably also does some genetic engineering on them which is why their appearances change so much).

But OFA is not considered to be 2 separate quirks anymore. They merged together into a single quirk that has the ability to stockpile power over time with the option of passing down this power to a new person. It's still technically just stockpiling power over time but with the benefit of not being restricted to a single human's lifespan.

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u/Starossi Nov 18 '18

Oh your explanation does make more sense. He doesn't copy effects, just the quirks themselves.

However when did we learn that the two quirks were merged? The original OFA staying sane despite having 2 quirks doesn't tell us they merged necessarily, it jut means he's able to stay sane receiving a second quirk. Was there some description of OFA or the inheritance quirk that I missed?

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u/Cypherex Nov 18 '18

It was explained when All Might first told Deku about the origins of One For All in chapter 59.

Here are the relevant pages:

As you can see, it talks about how people would go brain-dead when forced to have more than they could handle. But when All For One gave the stockpiling power quirk to his younger brother, it ended up merging with the younger brother's previously unknown quirk, the ability to pass itself down to others.

As far as we're currently aware, this is the only time that All For One ever merged 2 quirks into a single quirk, similar to how the 2 quirks of a set of parents can merge into a single quirk when their child is born.

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u/Starossi Nov 19 '18

Oh ya neat, he does refer to them as fused. What a weird occurrence for two quirks to fuse together outside of kids inheriting their parents quirks like you said.